You mean the demon that goes into a rage when it hears a specific sound and are significantly characterized by sound? Poor choice in example. I would have used the Hopping Puppeteer. How do you link Adorjan with a construction demon?
By all means, go for it. I don't mind.
Frankly, from what I can tell, this boiled down to a fatuous attempt to obscure system mechanics because mystery.
Primarily, they stopped using the word 'magitech', It's hard to say how much of it may or may not still be in as we just have the core book. The rules for 'first age artifice' basically replace the 'magitech' rules(and are kinda legit cool), but are completely superfluous as it doesn't actually do anything...
...I have to admit I never saw anything suggesting this, the book is kinda hueg so maybe I missed it but the general policy seemed to be 'avoid describing the first age directly' so it would be pretty weird...
So, I REALLy like to hate on the Ex3 vision for Infernals as has been revealed so far, like really REALLY dislike it. But it's worth noting that they are years out and will be not be written by Holden and Hatewheel so take it all with a healthy helping of salt.
Wait, what happened to infernals? I haven't been keeping up with 3e, last I heard they're mostly like 2e infernals, they just don't work directly for hell, instead being allowed to act like rogue 2e infernals by default. The reclamation might still exist, but for the most part the Yozi's in 3e believe that simply by using infernal power things will naturally progress in the way they want, because of how their exellencies and charmsets are structured.
From what I gather, yes, the Reclamation is going to be more the idea of the Infernals being free to do as they wish around Creation, because it's in their nature to do hellish stuff, but it's not gonna be something so direct like in 2e, bringing the Yozis back.
Tiresias said:
The change to Ability based charms disappoints me. I'll admit the Ex2 paradigm had issues but dropping it for standard ability based trees saddens me a bit. Honestly though, my bigger issue is instead of taking the part of Infernals I found cool conceptually, they're doubling down on the 'Rockstars of Hell" idea focusing on Infernals as 'corrupt and decadent first age Solar' exalts, which is dull to me cause if I want to play a corrupt and decadent Solar.... I can just play a Solar and be corrupt and decadent. I mean, just narratively it bothers me. It comes across a bit like making an exalt splat out of the show 'My Super Sweet Sixteen'. Now, I doubt even H&H would have written Douchbags: The Douchening, but it feels like fighting against concept in pursuit of Infernals as corrupt Solars, rather than considering the possibility of a splat that start to finish is channeling the powers and themes of the weird alien entities that are the yozi. I keep considering the idea of a non-'corrupted Solar' non-Solaroid Infernal splat with the epitaph of 'Heralds' who work with the corrupt Solars who are working for the Yozi (who are just corrupted Solars, working for the yozi).... But now I'm digressing into personal canon/dreams for the future and less about what I dislike about the Ex3 presentation of Infernals.
I could have sworn that was mentioned as a thing. Hang on, let me look it up.
Infernals Kickstarter Preview said:
So that thing they claimed they were definitely not doing again, with the Reclamation being a massive plot-tumor that completely takes over the meta-plot, they are repeating that and going even farther in that direction...
Shrug. It's probably just spitballing a hook for different Infernal Exalts, since it's like the only part of the preview where those are mentioned. Everything else about the Reclamation indicates that the Yozis have no expectation they'll actually be released, and that they'd be satisfied with the Infernals just being generally hellish people in Creation.
Basically the entire fanbase hated that idea, vocally. Morke said he was scrapping/reconsidering it, and I seriously doubt the current devs will pick it back up.
Can back that up. It says basically nothing about the First Age beyond ruins and wonders which might have been industrialized, or a Solar's personal pet project.
Nothing about the first age says it's a fantasy iron age kingdom? That's the Age of Sorrows. You know. Where the world fell after multiple apocalypses. This thread really suffers from a critical lack of imagination.
Or the fields are the size of countries, and bloom wholly through the power of magic and enslaved elementals rather than human labor, producing food enough to feed the entire world without a human hand ever touching a till.
I just imagined a giant artifact scythe actually designed for harvesting entire fields of grain at once, but repurposed for war in the Fall.
