I suppose, but I mean, 'Good Guy Lucifer' is theoretically 300+ years old (inb4 debate on if Lucifer really was a good guy in Paradise Lost or not). It's mainstream enough that a TV show based around the idea airs Monday nights on FOX.
Which I never realy understood. He's not a sole-creator of the universe. Hell, he did'nt even do the heavy lifting, Gaia and Cytherea did that. He has no Chosen People, nor did he give Mankind dominion over the Earth/Creation. He does'nt even view them as people. He's not the one who decided to give anyone free will, and in general did nothing other than be the self-proclaimed king of everything. If anything, he's closer to Zeus or Chronos as the asshole head of a pantheon.
As far I know it's largely a result of Shards of the Exalted Dream having a Theion Charmset that took cues from the Old Testament in terms of aesthetics and miracle-looking powers?
Honestly, I'd probably go as far as to say that the reason Theion has that aesthetic is because of the idea of Sol as 'Aztec-Lucificer'.
Worth bearing in mind that "Theion", "Cytherea", and the narrative of Creation's creation all belong somewhere near the very end of 2e. Around the same time as Sol was becoming Golden Jesus Superman, in fact. Back in 1e, he was just The Primordial King, who in his surrender became Malfeas. Nothing more was known or needed.
Well, this much is certainly true. I'm not sure where "edgy" comes into it, but the God of the Old Testament is a capricious and cruel cosmic horror, by modern standards, and Exalted isn't usually shy about calling classical and ancient entities out on their era-appropriate evil. YHWH doesn't get a pass for his bullshit any more than Achilles does.
his name also literally means bringer of dawn and morningstar.
My problem with Malfeas-as-YHVH is that this reading tends to stop at "pillars of salt" and "Sodom and Gomhora" and discards all the nuance of the character. It's not really a critical look at an Old Testament God figure, it's just a take-down. There is no Covenant, there is no chosen people, there is no guidance to freedom out of the desert (on a journey made arbitrarily longer as a punishment for apostasy), there are no prophets send to save their people from extermination (by exterminating the other guy instead), there are no tablets of law (which combine crucial foundations of society and self-serving worship). There's no complexity.
I think you're kind of forgetting the fact that the chosen peoples of the Primordials were genocided in the primordial war and it's aftermath.
I don't believe I ever compared Malfeas to the God of Old Testament? I was just explaining why Lucifer was sometimes used as a comparison point, and noting that nothing was known of The Primordial King prior to late 2e. Once Lucifer had been established in the fandom as a reference point, YHWH was a natural shorthand for his former ruler.
I wasn't especially trying to contradict you, I was more using that post as a jump-off point to rant about the common, I want to say "naive" reading of Malfeas-That-Was as being Totally Old Testament God, which is awfully lacking in subtlety.
As Omnicorn said, because there is no naunce to it. He's just the Jerk King of Everything, and the comparisons to the OT God is then only to the extent that "The OT God was a Jerk King of Everything too" when that comparison is, again, just as fitting if not more so to other heads of pantheons.
If you keep overusing a word, it'll run out of meaning.
I'm trying to find some reason to compare The Primordial King to Zeus instead of Cronos, the latter being a king of the titans who was overthrown by the gods and locked away with his siblings in a special prison. I suppose you could be comparing Sol to Zeus, instead, but that's a weird reading of your post – and something already raised, by myself, in an earlier post on this same page.
If you keep overusing a word, it'll run out of meaning.
If it would please the court, after much toil, distraction and procrastination, as well as many trials of love, faith and loyalty to my fickle muse, I have managed to revise the aforementioned passage. Does the new passage convey the required - fuck okay that's as far as I can go with that, so is it any good now?
To be honest I think that's shit.
The Sun doesn't act like anything at all, because generally speaking he, and the nature of his character, is not going to greatly impact the average Exalted game. He sticks to the Jade Pleasure Dome, minding his own damn business while the real heroes save the world. So "alright, who is this UCS guy really?" is itself a question that relies on irrelevant bullshit, such to the degree that the books largely avoided attributing any character him at all save that of being Unbeatable yet a slave to the Games of Divinity. For a long time, that's just who he was and no one really minded the absence.
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