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Gems in the Wastes (Exalted/Warhammer Fantasy/CK2)

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It took me until just now the potential humor of your character nonchalantly mentioning that they summoned a demon or seven.

You: "Yeah, I summoned this Blood Ape the other day, it's just a First Circle Demon but it gets the job done-"
Random Witch Hunter who found their way to the frozen north: "Blood? DEMON?! DIE!" *Pulls out flintlock and starts shooting up the place.*
 
[X] Plan Magic Revolution
[X] Plan: Fuck Nurgle

zxzx24 said:
eh, the grapple bonus REALLY isnt worth much to us, but I like first circle demons way better than second circle demons.
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That plan also includes regular possession by our past lives, described as "NOT having good decision making skills" which seems like, to be blunt, a truly awful idea.
 
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Critian Caceorte said:
It took me until just now the potential humor of your character nonchalantly mentioning that they summoned a demon or seven.

You: "Yeah, I summoned this Blood Ape the other day, it's just a First Circle Demon but it gets the job done-"
Random Witch Hunter who found their way to the frozen north: "Blood? DEMON?! DIE!" *Pulls out flintlock and starts shooting up the place.*
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Oh for sure they are going to LOVE us. :3

What demons are you planning to use? Do you have any in mind?

I admit I do really like Erymanthoi
 
Critian Caceorte said:
I'm open for suggestions, again I'm not as experienced with each "species" of demons as I am with the concept as a whole.
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Sticking strictly with canonical demons The Sesseljae are one of the more disturbing, but also one of the most respected and useful demons of the lowest circle.

Sesseljae, or as they are more commonly known, Stomach Bottle Bugs resemble fist-sized beetles with 10 legs similar to those of a grasshopper. They possess a dangerous appetite for tainted and putrid substances and spend their most of their lives scouring the bodies of the Yozis of those things that might eventually build up enough to cause harm to their masters.
The stomach bottle bugs sometimes discover veins of corruption that sicken the Yozis, and thousands perish only to have their tainted corpses devoured by their kin. New sesseljae are born from the poisoned waste until it is entirely consumed.
Stomach bottle bugs not busy with such work haunt the taverns of the Demon City and plead for entry in childlike voices.
They sometimes manage to swarm the establishments, drinking the alcohol from every bottle and from within other demons. Many demons hate sesseljae for this and often kill them on sight.
Sesseljae make excellent surgeons, although manipulating flesh and bone is more like play to them, and they happily sing with their rear four legs while they draw a body together as though it were soft clay.
The sesseljae can pass through the flesh of humans, animals and demons as easily as air and swim through it like water. This swimming sometimes stirs ripples in the bodies they inhabit, and a moving bug occasionally stumbles and awkwardly reveals a leg or mandible from within its host. Sorcerers typically carry sesseljae in their stomachs, as the demons may rest there indefinitely. This has the added benefit that the demon will suffer the effects of any ingested alcohol or poison in place of the sorcerer.
Interestingly, sesseljae are allergic to pure substances: tears, seawater, silver, gold, salt and virgin's blood. Such things can seal them from a location or even cause them harm.
having a disturbing demonic parasite living in your body is... nightmarish? But the ability to heal quickly, stop bleeding, and be nigh immune to poison and disease is an awesome boon for any living creature.

From a managing perspective, giving alcohol as a reward for good behavior is much more doable than blood like Erymanthoi wish for.

I will page back through my books, there are quite a few interesting and helpful fiends.
 
I'm happy to leave the minutae of interacting with demons and daemons up to the gm.

That being said. I have some 3rd edition books in my drive if you would like to give them a read @Critian Caceorte
 
I was just thinking about how Uluiru would take the transition to warhammer, socially I mean. There's about to be a lot of changes in everything from the seasons to the plants to the face of the sky, there will be no getting around the 'ISOT problem', everyone is going to know they are in a new world so the problem will become... why? Humans are really inclined to ask why when faced with great change. No small god could have done it so that leaves the big powers, celestial and terestrial. @Critian Caceorte what is our people's position on the Immaculate Order vs out and out worship of the Incarnae? Not that I think any of them are responsibile, I'm just trying to gouge a likely reaction.
 
DragonParadox said:
what is our people's position on the Immaculate Order vs out and out worship of the Incarnae?
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We know they're not full-on Immaculate devotees because of this:

Critian Caceorte said:
(especially as tales of Anathema, though not trusted, have still made their way to these shores)
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Talk of Anathema is a foreign idea that the people have heard of, but do not entirely trust. Now, what they do worship, I have no idea, but they aren't big on the Immaculate Order.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
We know they're not full-on Immaculate devotees because of this:



Talk of Anathema is a foreign idea that the people have heard of, but do not entirely trust. Now, what they do worship, I have no idea, but they aren't big on the Immaculate Order.
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Well yeah, but you do not have to be full on Death-to-the-Anathema Immaculate to worship the Elemental Dragons in their Immaculate guises. The fact that the locals do have some reservations about people glowing gold makes me think we have some more Threashold-friendly version of that going on rather than the full on Sun worship you find way out in the boonies or worship of major Terrestrial Gods as the centerpiece of religious life.
 
DragonParadox said:
No small god could have done it so that leaves the big powers, celestial and terestrial. @Critian Caceorte what is our people's position on the Immaculate Order vs out and out worship of the Incarnae? Not that I think any of them are responsibile, I'm just trying to gouge a likely reaction.
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Talk of Anathema is a foreign idea that the people have heard of, but do not entirely trust. Now, what they do worship, I have no idea, but they aren't big on the Immaculate Order.
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Uluiru has had notable contact and diplomacy with the Scarlet Realm over the years, due to being one of few nations run by over a dozen Exalted, and rarer still one of the only Exigent-dominated. With the sheer distance between the two nations, it was impossible for the Realm to turn Uluiru into one of their satrapies, so they never went to war, even if they never really LIKED each other. A number of Sovereign diplomats have traveled to the Realm and back, but none since a few years before the Empress vanished.

All of this is to say that know about the Immaculate Order, and can agree with one or two of its points, but absolutely do not follow the faith for one simple reason: The Order views Exigents as being only marginally better than Anathema. Sure, if the Exigent were to devote themselves to the order their "crime of participating in divine overreach" might be pardoned, but otherwise they get a rather frosty reception. Not actually Anathema, but certainly not liked.
 
Critian Caceorte said:
Uluiru has had notable contact and diplomacy with the Scarlet Realm over the years, due to being one of few nations run by over a dozen Exalted, and rarer still one of the only Exigent-dominated. With the sheer distance between the two nations, it was impossible for the Realm to turn Uluiru into one of their satrapies, so they never went to war, even if they never really LIKED each other. A number of Sovereign diplomats have traveled to the Realm and back, but none since a few years before the Empress vanished.

All of this is to say that know about the Immaculate Order, and can agree with one or two of its points, but absolutely do not follow the faith for one simple reason: The Order views Exigents as being only marginally better than Anathema. Sure, if the Exigent were to devote themselves to the order their "crime of participating in divine overreach" might be pardoned, but otherwise they get a rather frosty reception. Not actually Anathema, but certainly not liked.
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Interesting, at least that should mean we do not have to deal with panicking Imaculate Monks who can no longer call home. Actually speaking of that... how many Dragon Blooded do we have and what is their station? Just a few Lost Eggs, or full on Noble Houses under the royals?
 
DragonParadox said:
Interesting, at least that should mean we do not have to deal with panicking Imaculate Monks who can no longer call home. Actually speaking of that... how many Dragon Blooded do we have and what is their station? Just a few Lost Eggs, or full on Noble Houses under the royals?
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That will be part of the Supernatural Aid column you can choose from for the next stage. Generally not many Dragon-Blooded, but still some if you purchase that level.
 
On that note I think we should get Dragon Blooded, for a variety of reasons:
  1. Air Blooded would make good assistant sorcerers (It is literally what they were made for)
  2. Piety inclined Exalts in general to sweet-talk any gods we might not want to compel through Glorious Exalted Sorcery
  3. Crafters, alchemists and thaumaturges to to magical tasks too Essence intensive for mortals, but not so complex you want a Solar doing it
  4. Warriors and leaders to stiffen the spines of our mortal armies when the manticores, Chaos Giants and two headed dragons show up as they inevitably will
And last but not least...
  1. People who have some kind of a shot at punching Sango in the face and sitting on him when he has a Limit Break. The ideal for this would be other Solars, but enough Terestrials will do in a pinch. Even if they do not do any active sitting because we do not know what a Great Curse is, just having the nobility be Terestrials means we cannot just walk over them with a bad idea. Sure it will make it harder to implement good ideas, but at the end of the day that is a small price to pay for something to stop the death spiral of Limit Breaks and rationalizations
 
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    • DragonParadox said:
    On that note I think we should get Dragon Blooded, for a variety of reasons:
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    Well, yes, these are all okay points, but I think you're missing something: All of the stuff you listed can easily be done by Sovereigns (who specialize in Craft, Integrity, Performance, Socialize and War). What you really should be asking is, "What do DBs have the Sovereigns don't, or are better at?" In my eyes, though I'd need to double check when I'm not away from my PC to make sure:

    1. Healing. Sovereigns are decent at curing illnesses, but without notes I don't think they have any method of quickly healing injuries. (EDIT: 6/22/24; Having double checked, there is ONE wound healing charm, but it is high in charm requirements and only applies to characters currently working under her orders.)
    2. Animal handling, don't have any of that to my knowledge either. (EDIT: 6/22/24; There is a charm to attract animals that live underground, that's about it.)
    3. Stealth: Sovereigns are brightly shining rainbow demigods, they are NOT subtle in anything save for their words.
    4. Speed in/out of combat except when crafting. (EDIT: 6/22/24; I meant movement speed here, not in terms of attacks which Sovereigns actually have good charms for.)
    5. Martial Arts, so long as one DB is Immaculately trained, they are likely better than any Sovereign monk.
    Again, I'd need my copy of the Exigents book to make sure, but these are some examples that come to mind.
     
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