- Location
- Goose Land
I'd argue that the Evil Elves count as Evil Vikings, considering their own tendency to Raid Everyone.
They just leave less survivors to let rumors develop
Gems in the Wastes (Exalted/Warhammer Fantasy/CK2)
- Thread starter Critian Caceorte
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I'd argue that the Evil Elves count as Evil Vikings, considering their own tendency to Raid Everyone.
They just leave less survivors to let rumors develop
Critian Caceorte
Currently Suffering from Space-Time Narcolepsy
- Location
- Washington State
Mind giving me a reference for that one so that I can look her up? It'll probably be helpful in the future.
If by "survivors" you mean "people left alive at the location," then yeah. If you just mean "people left alive in general," then not so much, because Dark Elves take a LOT of slaves while the Vikings just kill people or use them for sacrifices.They just leave less survivors to let rumors develop
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
She's written up in 2nd edition Malfeas book, I don't think she's in third edition yet, but the point is that you can still get an idea of what she's good at--and that is "Security"
- Location
- Void
Looking up from the Green Cherry Demonomicon, Lemkh, the Beast With Blade-Blood, should be suitable as an option to have a fighty 2CD and a source of additional armaments, albeit demon-tainted/touched ones. While Cerasumi, the Forgotten Acolyte, would have some straightforward combat prowess with sheer strength, she'd also have some utility elsewhere by being a Surgeon and Singer.
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K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
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The vikings also use lots of slaves. You don't think they'd toil their fields themselves?
While that is true I do not think they take as many slaves as the dark elves in absolute terms. Norscans cannot maintain the same sorts sky high slave to citizen ratios that the Druchi can at their level of technology and organization.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
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- He
Yeah, they're unlikely to have proportionally as many, but they still have plenty of them.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
The Problem with Dark Elfs is that they're culturally just The Worst. If you raise them in a culture that isn't complete shit, they'll just be... Elfs of some stripe.
I do not think elves have the right soul structure to get exalted, for much the same reason Dragon Kings cannot, it's human or nothing, Exaltations were pretty specifically designed to bond to humans as being the Primordials were not paying attention to.
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As Alectai notes there's nothing magical making the Dark Elves evil, or not for most of them anyway (maybe their sorceresses?) it's all cultural. Sometimes they even defect. Raising dark elf kids would take a long time, but result in a very different culture. And as others note, yeah, I'm pretty sure Exaltation is human only.
Critian Caceorte
Currently Suffering from Space-Time Narcolepsy
- Location
- Washington State
For the most part, yes, we don't really know what happened with the Spoken because there's never been any official material on them besides dev comments that "They existed, now they don't."
What I will say is that it's possible for a God of a non-human race, if they have observed the Exalted for long enough, to tear out enough of their own power to make a Chosen of their own. Problem is, they don't have the Flames of Exigence which make the process easier, so the cost is likely to be so high that it's just not worth it in the end. Besides, there's already some equivalents like the Everqueen and stuff, they don't really NEED Exalted of their own generally.
- Location
- Earth
[X] Plan: North Canadian Tower Defense
Critian Caceorte
Currently Suffering from Space-Time Narcolepsy
- Location
- Washington State
Just like I did with the DB rolls, I'm going to do the same with the Sovereigns. Gwai's stats are already set in stone, but I'm largely going to invent some new characters here for the rest. If a character's stats are similar to those of a canon character, then I'll just use that character instead. That way, I can lessen the work on myself to create some new people.
First, Aspects. Sovereigns have Five Aspects (Diamond, Emerald, Opal, Ruby, Sapphire) which provide different types of Anima Banners, but largely does not change their potential skillsets. I'm assigning Gwai as a Diamond since they fit the most with his personality (Stoic, Virtuous, Resilient), meaning that we have 1 Sovereign per one of these other Aspects. Once I do the rolls, we'll see how that shakes out.
First is their proximity to you in terms of blood. After all, if you were to suffer a sudden death, Gwai might potentially be your successor, or Mobolaji, but after them the chain of succession might get a bit messy. We have canon Sovereign characters who are the Great-Great Grandchildren of Queen Ulu, so I'm going to be using a d4 to determine their generation from the Queen. 1 is the same generation as Sango and Gwai, but they might not necessarily be siblings, they could be those who married into the family (which is rather common in Uluiru). 2 is the generation after that (the grandchildren), 3 is the great-grandchildren where Queen Ulu's former heir Nuwa came from, and then 4 is the great-great-grandchildren. Hope that clears things up a little. For now, the rolls!
Result: the Opal and Ruby Aspects are of the first generation. Emerald is a grandchild, and Sapphire a great-great-grandchild. Ignore the 5th die roll, it was a mistake. Next, I'm going to roll d2 for all of them to see if they were born or married into the family. 1 is born, 2 is married.
Further Result: Emerald and Sapphire were both born into the family, while Opal and Ruby married into the 1st Generation. That checks out for me, if Queen Ulu wanted to help solidify tribal alliances with her family.
Next is the best stat. For this, any stat can be the best so I will use a d7, but some might syngerize better with Sovereign Charms than others. Intrigue in particular is going to be much more socially-oriented than sneaky, while Diplomacy might be more connected with music. It's just the way things can be sometimes.
Result: Emerald and Ruby are both Piety-focused (which is great for you!), Opal is Intrigue (also great), Sapphire is Diplomacy. Altogether, a really good set of rolls here, because it covers some much needed weaknesses you had.
Finally, the worst stat. Obviously each character's best stat won't be included here, nor Combat because, again, Exalted. That leaves 5 possibilities for each Sovereign.
Result: Emerald is bad at Martial, Opal and Sapphire are both bad at Learning, and Ruby is bad at Stewardship. Altogether not a bad result, considering the Dragon-Blooded you already have as candidates. The only Ministerial position you don't have a good choice for is ironically Records/Learning, so you might need to chip in yourself to help a lot in this category.
Actually... you know what, later on I'll roll for your Sorcery students to see if they would make good advisors, they'll probably be important anyways. That way, I don't have to also invent a bunch of random mortals to see if you could slot those in.
Regardless, our Sovereign Characters are:
Thousand-Hours Gwai, the Diamond Aspect eldest son of Queen Ulu. His best stat is Stewardship, being Queen Ulu's advisor and counterbalance for many years. Despite her being his mother, he was often the one to tell her "No" when something was stupid. His second-best stat for the sake of convenience is Martial, allowing him to serve as a pretty good general if you don't want to entrust your armies over to a Dragon-Blood. Finally, his worst stat is Diplomacy, he is just not a people person in any way, shape or form.
Next is our Emerald Aspect granddaughter of Ulu. The Emerald Aspect is all about desires and knowing how to fulfill them, both your own and others. They are the ones who entered the Fount of Glories in order to fulfill their Ambitions and retained their focus on those goals. Having an Emerald Aspect be Piety-focused is a bit odd, but perhaps she is better able to intuit the desires of the gods than most people can. But her hedonism and likely laziness means that she's not a great fit for leading an army, with how bad her Martial stat is likely to be. She is also a Sorcerer, with her Control Spell "Unslakable Thirst of the Devil-Maw" giving her a mouth on the palm of one hand which drains moisture out of those it touches.
After that, we have your first sister-in-law, the Opal Aspect. Opal Aspects have the unfortunate burden of cracking mentally when they bathed in the Fount of Glories, inflicting them with just a tiny touch of the Wyld. This might manifest as a mental illness, or as a predilection towards trickery. Your sister-in-law fulfills the latter to a tee, being a little gremlin that somehow managed to earn the love of one of your now-lost siblings, before marrying them and earning the Queen's respect enough to earn Exaltation. She would be a fantastic advisor with her knowledge of Intrigue. With her spouse dead either now or in the past, she might be trying to deal with the sorrow in some hidden fashion, not wanting to expose her grief to the world. Sadly, her dash of the Wyld also meant that she's an ADHD-ridden mess, preventing her from excelling in any scholarly field, meaning that Learning is a bust.
Then your other sister-in-law, the Ruby Aspect. Ruby Aspects tend to be the most emotional of the five Aspects, having used their fear or rage as a shield against the agony of Exaltation. Your sister, just like your niece, is focused on Piety, again a pretty odd combo, but she likely makes up for it through sheer passion. Unfortunately, thinking with her heart so much has left her finances in poor straits, as seen with her Stewardship stat, so you probably shouldn't give her any big loans in the near future. Her own spouse was also lost, and unlike the Opal, she is very public with her grief on the matter, having berated those who might have talked bad about the fallen.
Finally, there is your great-grandniece, the Sapphire Aspect. Sapphires are created when a Sovereign looks at their reflection in the Fount when they Exalt and marvels at their own beauty and strength. They tend to be self-absorbed artists and muses, though rarely are they useless in a fight. Your great-grandniece was born into wealth and fame and embraced it wholeheartedly. While she does tend to prioritize herself in affairs, she is quite good at creating a nice first impression and often practices Diplomacy in her day-to-day life. Sadly, her background growing up gave her little incentive to improve in more... "smarty" areas. Her Learning to be frank is abysmal. Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that you became something far greater than a Sovereign Exalt, you might have felt more insulted that your mother allowed this vapid girl the opportunity to enter the Fount while leaving you high and dry.
And that's everyone! I will be doing some private rolls for their actual stats when it comes time to select the Ministers, so if you're wondering why I'm not giving any stats right now, that's why.
EDIT (5/27/24): Did a roll to confirm if Emerald and Ruby are Sorcerers. Emerald is, Ruby is not.
First, Aspects. Sovereigns have Five Aspects (Diamond, Emerald, Opal, Ruby, Sapphire) which provide different types of Anima Banners, but largely does not change their potential skillsets. I'm assigning Gwai as a Diamond since they fit the most with his personality (Stoic, Virtuous, Resilient), meaning that we have 1 Sovereign per one of these other Aspects. Once I do the rolls, we'll see how that shakes out.
First is their proximity to you in terms of blood. After all, if you were to suffer a sudden death, Gwai might potentially be your successor, or Mobolaji, but after them the chain of succession might get a bit messy. We have canon Sovereign characters who are the Great-Great Grandchildren of Queen Ulu, so I'm going to be using a d4 to determine their generation from the Queen. 1 is the same generation as Sango and Gwai, but they might not necessarily be siblings, they could be those who married into the family (which is rather common in Uluiru). 2 is the generation after that (the grandchildren), 3 is the great-grandchildren where Queen Ulu's former heir Nuwa came from, and then 4 is the great-great-grandchildren. Hope that clears things up a little. For now, the rolls!
Result: the Opal and Ruby Aspects are of the first generation. Emerald is a grandchild, and Sapphire a great-great-grandchild. Ignore the 5th die roll, it was a mistake. Next, I'm going to roll d2 for all of them to see if they were born or married into the family. 1 is born, 2 is married.
Further Result: Emerald and Sapphire were both born into the family, while Opal and Ruby married into the 1st Generation. That checks out for me, if Queen Ulu wanted to help solidify tribal alliances with her family.
Next is the best stat. For this, any stat can be the best so I will use a d7, but some might syngerize better with Sovereign Charms than others. Intrigue in particular is going to be much more socially-oriented than sneaky, while Diplomacy might be more connected with music. It's just the way things can be sometimes.
Result: Emerald and Ruby are both Piety-focused (which is great for you!), Opal is Intrigue (also great), Sapphire is Diplomacy. Altogether, a really good set of rolls here, because it covers some much needed weaknesses you had.
Finally, the worst stat. Obviously each character's best stat won't be included here, nor Combat because, again, Exalted. That leaves 5 possibilities for each Sovereign.
Result: Emerald is bad at Martial, Opal and Sapphire are both bad at Learning, and Ruby is bad at Stewardship. Altogether not a bad result, considering the Dragon-Blooded you already have as candidates. The only Ministerial position you don't have a good choice for is ironically Records/Learning, so you might need to chip in yourself to help a lot in this category.
Actually... you know what, later on I'll roll for your Sorcery students to see if they would make good advisors, they'll probably be important anyways. That way, I don't have to also invent a bunch of random mortals to see if you could slot those in.
Regardless, our Sovereign Characters are:
Thousand-Hours Gwai, the Diamond Aspect eldest son of Queen Ulu. His best stat is Stewardship, being Queen Ulu's advisor and counterbalance for many years. Despite her being his mother, he was often the one to tell her "No" when something was stupid. His second-best stat for the sake of convenience is Martial, allowing him to serve as a pretty good general if you don't want to entrust your armies over to a Dragon-Blood. Finally, his worst stat is Diplomacy, he is just not a people person in any way, shape or form.
Next is our Emerald Aspect granddaughter of Ulu. The Emerald Aspect is all about desires and knowing how to fulfill them, both your own and others. They are the ones who entered the Fount of Glories in order to fulfill their Ambitions and retained their focus on those goals. Having an Emerald Aspect be Piety-focused is a bit odd, but perhaps she is better able to intuit the desires of the gods than most people can. But her hedonism and likely laziness means that she's not a great fit for leading an army, with how bad her Martial stat is likely to be. She is also a Sorcerer, with her Control Spell "Unslakable Thirst of the Devil-Maw" giving her a mouth on the palm of one hand which drains moisture out of those it touches.
After that, we have your first sister-in-law, the Opal Aspect. Opal Aspects have the unfortunate burden of cracking mentally when they bathed in the Fount of Glories, inflicting them with just a tiny touch of the Wyld. This might manifest as a mental illness, or as a predilection towards trickery. Your sister-in-law fulfills the latter to a tee, being a little gremlin that somehow managed to earn the love of one of your now-lost siblings, before marrying them and earning the Queen's respect enough to earn Exaltation. She would be a fantastic advisor with her knowledge of Intrigue. With her spouse dead either now or in the past, she might be trying to deal with the sorrow in some hidden fashion, not wanting to expose her grief to the world. Sadly, her dash of the Wyld also meant that she's an ADHD-ridden mess, preventing her from excelling in any scholarly field, meaning that Learning is a bust.
Then your other sister-in-law, the Ruby Aspect. Ruby Aspects tend to be the most emotional of the five Aspects, having used their fear or rage as a shield against the agony of Exaltation. Your sister, just like your niece, is focused on Piety, again a pretty odd combo, but she likely makes up for it through sheer passion. Unfortunately, thinking with her heart so much has left her finances in poor straits, as seen with her Stewardship stat, so you probably shouldn't give her any big loans in the near future. Her own spouse was also lost, and unlike the Opal, she is very public with her grief on the matter, having berated those who might have talked bad about the fallen.
Finally, there is your great-grandniece, the Sapphire Aspect. Sapphires are created when a Sovereign looks at their reflection in the Fount when they Exalt and marvels at their own beauty and strength. They tend to be self-absorbed artists and muses, though rarely are they useless in a fight. Your great-grandniece was born into wealth and fame and embraced it wholeheartedly. While she does tend to prioritize herself in affairs, she is quite good at creating a nice first impression and often practices Diplomacy in her day-to-day life. Sadly, her background growing up gave her little incentive to improve in more... "smarty" areas. Her Learning to be frank is abysmal. Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that you became something far greater than a Sovereign Exalt, you might have felt more insulted that your mother allowed this vapid girl the opportunity to enter the Fount while leaving you high and dry.
And that's everyone! I will be doing some private rolls for their actual stats when it comes time to select the Ministers, so if you're wondering why I'm not giving any stats right now, that's why.
EDIT (5/27/24): Did a roll to confirm if Emerald and Ruby are Sorcerers. Emerald is, Ruby is not.
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Yeah, we've got some of our advisors squared away pretty well there.
I'm guessing Gwai is high Stewardship. If so, we can put him in on Finance, three of the Sovereigns in on Culture, Vigilance, and Public Works, the Goddess on Mining, and then we just have to hope the Dragon-Blooded can cover War and Records. Assuming we aim for the best people for the jobs, of course.
If Gwai isn't high Stewardship, he's probably got good Martial and/or Learning and we shuffle him and the DBs around a little...
Hmmm. I'd need to see the candidates, but what kind of Learning does Slumbering Star have? I know it wouldn't be her preferred seat, but we might be able to finagle something...
EDIT: Gwai is indeed high Stewardship, so the above stands.
I'm guessing Gwai is high Stewardship. If so, we can put him in on Finance, three of the Sovereigns in on Culture, Vigilance, and Public Works, the Goddess on Mining, and then we just have to hope the Dragon-Blooded can cover War and Records. Assuming we aim for the best people for the jobs, of course.
If Gwai isn't high Stewardship, he's probably got good Martial and/or Learning and we shuffle him and the DBs around a little...
Hmmm. I'd need to see the candidates, but what kind of Learning does Slumbering Star have? I know it wouldn't be her preferred seat, but we might be able to finagle something...
EDIT: Gwai is indeed high Stewardship, so the above stands.
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Critian Caceorte
Currently Suffering from Space-Time Narcolepsy
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Who knows? Maybe they don't have issues with him as a Solar, but do with him as a person. You'll just have to find out later.
It's not her worst stat (that would be Combat), but it is on the lower end. Her best Stat is actually Stewardship.
"But Critian!" I hear you say, "Why does the goddess whose best stat is Stewardship want to take Minister roles (Culture/Diplomacy, Mining/Combat) that aren't Stewardship?" Just because she's great at something doesn't mean that she wants to do that thing all day. She has greater aspirations than that. Or maybe it's just too much work for her to do, who knows.
Also, I'll eventually be doing some additional rolls for the Dragon-Blooded, just a few to establish personality and the like, before creating summaries for them as well. Might happen in the near future, I don't know.
Critian Caceorte
Currently Suffering from Space-Time Narcolepsy
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Not as far as I'm aware, no. If there is a need, you can probably just legislate one, as the King, but it's likely that some sort of common parlance will instead take hold and you can use that. Probably something gem-related.
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Hmmm. Okay, based on best stats, here's what we have:
War: ???
Culture: Sapphire
Finance: Gwai
Vigilance: Opal
Public Works: Emerald or Ruby
Records: ???
Mining: ???
We also have Slumbering Star, but she's not great for any of the open slots, I don't think (not even Mining, which she wants). We could slot in Dragon-Blooded to War and Mining, and one of our Sorcerer students to Records, potentially but, hmmmm. Need to see the candidates. At least the positions we're shaky on are things Sango is good at.
Whichever of Emerald and Ruby we don't assign to Public Works can also potentially fill another role, though they won't be as suited for it. Neither of them have a worst stat in Learning or Combat, though Emerald's is Martial.
War: ???
Culture: Sapphire
Finance: Gwai
Vigilance: Opal
Public Works: Emerald or Ruby
Records: ???
Mining: ???
We also have Slumbering Star, but she's not great for any of the open slots, I don't think (not even Mining, which she wants). We could slot in Dragon-Blooded to War and Mining, and one of our Sorcerer students to Records, potentially but, hmmmm. Need to see the candidates. At least the positions we're shaky on are things Sango is good at.
Whichever of Emerald and Ruby we don't assign to Public Works can also potentially fill another role, though they won't be as suited for it. Neither of them have a worst stat in Learning or Combat, though Emerald's is Martial.
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Mining is the one based on Combat. Her low stat. If we were some place with a safe underground she'd be fine, but, uh...
theflyingbiscuit
"Titanic neechan"
That would be a "full" Circle/Hearth.
I imagine a Circle still correct. Dragon-blooded use hearth because they have additional benefits when involved with heartmates. Different assortments of Exalted don't use different terms for circle.
Personally, my favorite nickname is an "atrocity" of exalted, you know like a murder of crow, but that would not really fit our ideals.
Written as mining, read as anti-Skaven knight. Slumbering star lacks the Combat chops.
We could split mining into two positions, one to fight the Skaven, the other to find them veins.