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@StarJaunter I have been meaning to ask this. But what can you tell us is here from Exalted that is not spoilers? Becaues my mind keeps thinking of things.
Dragon Kings in the 41st Millennia (Exalted/40K Empire)
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Done, ship renamed. By the way with my last omaka did you like the name I came up with for the Stalking Mantis i.e. the "Water's Ghost of Darkness"?
@Slamu @The Froggy Ninja you are free to use my rendition of the Serenity Valley and her crew for your own omakas, those intervening 10 years, the 43 boarding attempts, and that unusual discovery are just begging to be elaborated on.
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Um Dragon Kings themselves?
They effectively can make anything Dragon Kings could make before you bothered researching anything I believe. Between what you have learned from working besides Jadeborn and Twilight Solars and inspiration gained from Battling Primordials and more recently orks you have gained inspiration to develop knew technologies... but even there I pull from things that were already in the Exalted lore. Magitech and Automata. You did not develop bolters or railguns... you developed prayer pieces and expanded upon them to fill all the roles those could.
You physically have the Library of Sperimen which has made this research easier than it otherwise would have been.
You have many martial arts unlocked and the ability to train more. You can technically unlock sorcery and have short cut access to limited amounts of sorcerers via one of your chosen lores, but so far haven't learned to teach normal Dragon Kings how to sorcery, although all are able magically speaking.
You technically can make common warstriders but I have ruled they are not awesome enough to bother with so you need to upgrade to Noble Warstriders. The projects for doing so are in the budget, just hasn't happened yet. With Factory Cathedrals unlocked you can technically make Royal Warstriders.
You have access to pretty much all the thaumaturgy of Creation... at least any that Dragon Kings would have bothered with so no Necromancy or Statistics. Astrological Divination has been unlocked by studying the local stars thoroughly. You can and do use crystal ball and mirror based divination thaumaturgy since you have a thing for crystalline stuff as Dragon Kings, but it definitely lesser source compared to Astrology, only holding a candle do to the backing of path magic and the use of enchanted or artifact tools.
Studying the lore of Autochthon has taught you how to forge the Loom of Fate and remove the malus for building magitechnology from your race.
You brought many gods with you, although none are full incarna, Luna even snuck a fraction of herself through with you in the form of Abraxus. You have basically all the elementals including the autochthonian ones.
Note sure what you are looking for? Any more specific questions?
[X] Uncovered Lore of the Eldar: Conversations with the Eldar while we were in contact with them have revealed storied of their fallen gods. However, the stories reveal things to us which seem hidden to those they were meant for. As best we can tell the Eldari gods had a back up plan to re-instantiate themselves and left the instruction manuals with their children to enact. And those children totally missed it. While its not really our job we do need some more incarna level divinities backing us. And the Eldari Gods would be hard pressed to deny OUR patronage when WE are the ones who restore them.
fyi
One thing I am doing with the budgets is making Gothic War sections in each breed and I will move all the pure Gothic war support projects to those sections, some normal projects highly recommended will be copied to that section too, but do not be surprised if you see it in the normal area as well.
One thing I am doing with the budgets is making Gothic War sections in each breed and I will move all the pure Gothic war support projects to those sections, some normal projects highly recommended will be copied to that section too, but do not be surprised if you see it in the normal area as well.
- Location
- Alberta
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Uncovered Lore of the Ork: Your conflicts and study of the Ork nature have been thorough and reached surprising conclusions. The god of the Ork is broken. At one point Gorkamorka was a two headed god that guided the Orks in the ways of Brutality and Kunning. Something has ripped that god in two, forming two forces of Gork and Mork which represent (in no particular order) the two forces working the Psyche of the WAAAGH! Brutality and Kunning. This has obviously done something probably unpleasant to Ork nature and is beyond our capability to deal with. The current status of the Ork is such that they effectively have Virtues composed only of Brutality and Kunning. But perhaps we can aide them in our own way. Forging a WAAAGH! into something new but rendering their gods a new aspect. Gork'vrah and Mork'vrah. Brutality for the glory of the Unconquered Sun. Kunning for the Glory of the Unconquered Sun. That is, we give them Valor (very slightly tempered by compassion) instead of Brutality and Conviction (perhaps Konviction?) (very slightly tempered by Temperance) instead of Kunning. Such a WAAAGH! would be different and probably more relatable but would be alien enough to other Orks that they would not get along. It would be up to us to help our Solar Orks to reign supreme. [Starts a lengthy quest chain to restore/replace/convert? Orks]
- Location
- Alberta
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Will the next lesson have converting ork or just in this lesson only?
It will probably be there, unless of think of something I think is cooler for orks but it will be a while before you get it.
Question?
Did we every actually lock in doing something with Beryl? Cause I think due to an error I took off the options for dealing with her after turn 35 and no one ever manually added it back in, so she just has been prisoner for like 60 years waiting right?
Did we every actually lock in doing something with Beryl? Cause I think due to an error I took off the options for dealing with her after turn 35 and no one ever manually added it back in, so she just has been prisoner for like 60 years waiting right?
I believe we were wanting to Interrogate her then move to convert her to a Truculee. But the winning vote at the time was "Capture her for conversion to a Truculee".
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[X] Uncovered Lore of the Eldar: Conversations with the Eldar while we were in contact with them have revealed storied of their fallen gods. However, the stories reveal things to us which seem hidden to those they were meant for. As best we can tell the Eldari gods had a back up plan to re-instantiate themselves and left the instruction manuals with their children to enact. And those children totally missed it. While its not really our job we do need some more incarna level divinities backing us. And the Eldari Gods would be hard pressed to deny OUR patronage when WE are the ones who restore them. [Starts a lengthy quest chain to restore the Eldari gods]
- Location
- Portland
I've been wondering what happened to that vote. The winning vote (so far as I can tell) was after turn 36, for turning her into a truculee. It somehow just got passed over.
IC, I guess she was just especially truculent, and took a long time to convert?
Eldar Gods
Our conversations with the Eldar of Ulthwe have confirmed that most of their gods were slain by "She Who Thirsts" but in telling us stories of their fallen gods it becomes apparent that those stories are meant to follow a Myth-line. A guide across eons for re-instantiating them from a calamity. Likely most of the gods only did so out of thoroughness, likely not believing things would collapse quite as badly as they did. Of course the fact that so many Eldar died so quickly and so many had turned away from the gods in the generations just before the Fall means that none of the Eldar that remain have both put together the clues and chosen to execute them in any kind of organized way.
Perhaps we should:
Isha: Being still alive Isha is both the easiest and hardest. Communicating with her in her entrapped state should be as simple as building any quality of temple to her and performing a relatively simple ritual to invoke an avatar inside her temple. (Fancier temples would make it easier). Freeing Isha from her entrapment on the other hand may be harder than anything else.
-Build Isha Temple (any)
-Ritual (better temples lower DC)
-Free a Primordial's Beloved Victim?
Vaul: Brother of Isha and akin to Autochthon he may be one of the easiest to call upon, especially if we make contact with Isha first. The presence of a Factory Cathedral dedicated to Vaul should be a great help in this endeavor. However it looks like we still need to recover something called a "Sword of Vaul", perform a santification that would probably be hard for most eldar but will be easy in our Factory cathedral, and than perform a ritual in a "Talisman of Vaul"
-Recover a "Sword of Vaul" or something else confirmed as "Made by Vaul" Hopefully Isha can point it out?
-short project in a Vaul sworn factory cathedral (or an elaborate quest involving eldar craftsmen)
-Perform ritual with sword inside a Black Fortress/Talisman of Vaul.
Kurnous: Husband of Isha, expansion of her family is probably the easiest way to wedge into the Pantheon. A hunt for a great beast must be performed and its heart sacrificed to Kurnous. Tricky... we are so used to sacrificing hearts to the Unconquered Sun we practically do it on reflex.
-Build a Hunting Grounds (any level works but Holy or Sublime makes it easier)
-Find an opportunity to call upon the Hunt to defeat a fearsome beast, specifically the mightiest Daemon of Slaanesh possible (which is why the sublime hunting grounds help) like a named Keeper of Secrets of Fulgrim maybe.
-Ritual to Sacrifice the Heart of the Hunt to Kurnous, this is hard enough you may need to hunt again, especially of your sacrifice wasn't particularly impressive. Most Holy Hunting Grounds make this ritual easier though, effectively letting you get away with a weaker prey than other wise.
Khaine: The Bloody Handed Lord of Murder and Violence. This is a god that believes conflict is necessary for peace. In some ways he is easiest to bring back since he is but shattered, not fallen. On the other hand any attempt to restore him should be bound to accept violence and he would be a dominant force. Probably best to make sure he is among the last Eldar Gods restored. On the tail though he is one of the stronger Eldar gods and probably the easiest of those to restore.
-Build a version of his temple.
-Carry the Hearthstone in battle and involve it in as many murders as possible. (Most High version lowers the murder count by like a level of magnitude)
-When it goes "Ding" somewhere between hundreds of millions and billions of murders you will feel a compulsion to hunt down a Avatar of Khaine
-Use the Avatar and the Hearthstone to Murder Khaine back to life. Expect most things on that field of battle to die, could maybe be exploited?
Hoec: A mysterious Wanderer, he knows all the secret paths, patron of scholars, savants, and sorcerers. We must solve cursed riddles to unlock locations far flung through the galaxy and with great mastery of time and space weave a grand galaxy spanning ritual. Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.
-Abraxus Project to unlock the locations
-Divinatory knowledge for organizing ritual
-Traveling to far flung destinations across the galaxy
-execute grand ritual (having temples lower DC, most holy lowers it the most)
Lileath: Isha's Daughter, goddess of Dreams and Fortune. For her benefit a prophecy must be executing grand in scope and endeavour.
-Build a version of her loom to cast dream
-develop a far flung divination pattern. The prophecy must take 100 + years to enact and with preperations and time to get ready you may need to divine further than 100 years out or risk missing your chance.
-Use divine aide you have access to such as Isha or Abraxus if nothing else to set up the prophecy and Lileaths Loom to cast it forth as a dream to her chosen reciepient.
-various projects aiding the prophecy such as purposely hindering or aiding the chosen one in their journey. Most high version of loom helps this go more smoothly.
-Prophecy enacted restores Lileath too.
Morai-Heg: The Crone goddess of Fate and souls. Restoring her requires questing deep into the Heart of the Eye of Terror to visit Crone worlds seeking to shift the balance of fate and souls to enact her renewal
-Build her temple, Most High would be best but technically the lesser ones work it just means harder quests
-A series of five vision quests which each grant a Crone world and a mission to execute on said crone world
-execute the missions
-perform a ritual at either her temple or perhaps a former temple of hers on a crone world. Last is easier ritual but will be spoiled by Daemons almost certainly.
Asuryan: The Phoenix King, Keeper of the Balance, Eldest of Eldar Gods. God of Fire and Light. While conceptual he is among the easiest to resurrect, the cost is great indeed for those who Choose the sun.
-Use divination to find a sun that will go super nova in the future but with enough time to set up
-build elaborate geomantic/astromantic constructs around the sun to channel its super nova into sacred mantras
-Asuryan is reborn when the nova goes off assuming nothing disturbs the geomancy.
Gea: Consort of Asuryan and Khaine and mother of many other gods, both listed here and lesser ones.
-Restore Khaine and Asuryan
-restore some of her lesser children through direct god-forging.
-conduct ritual.
This post is subject to updates.
Perhaps we should:
Isha: Being still alive Isha is both the easiest and hardest. Communicating with her in her entrapped state should be as simple as building any quality of temple to her and performing a relatively simple ritual to invoke an avatar inside her temple. (Fancier temples would make it easier). Freeing Isha from her entrapment on the other hand may be harder than anything else.
-Build Isha Temple (any)
-Ritual (better temples lower DC)
-Free a Primordial's Beloved Victim?
Vaul: Brother of Isha and akin to Autochthon he may be one of the easiest to call upon, especially if we make contact with Isha first. The presence of a Factory Cathedral dedicated to Vaul should be a great help in this endeavor. However it looks like we still need to recover something called a "Sword of Vaul", perform a santification that would probably be hard for most eldar but will be easy in our Factory cathedral, and than perform a ritual in a "Talisman of Vaul"
-Recover a "Sword of Vaul" or something else confirmed as "Made by Vaul" Hopefully Isha can point it out?
-short project in a Vaul sworn factory cathedral (or an elaborate quest involving eldar craftsmen)
-Perform ritual with sword inside a Black Fortress/Talisman of Vaul.
Kurnous: Husband of Isha, expansion of her family is probably the easiest way to wedge into the Pantheon. A hunt for a great beast must be performed and its heart sacrificed to Kurnous. Tricky... we are so used to sacrificing hearts to the Unconquered Sun we practically do it on reflex.
-Build a Hunting Grounds (any level works but Holy or Sublime makes it easier)
-Find an opportunity to call upon the Hunt to defeat a fearsome beast, specifically the mightiest Daemon of Slaanesh possible (which is why the sublime hunting grounds help) like a named Keeper of Secrets of Fulgrim maybe.
-Ritual to Sacrifice the Heart of the Hunt to Kurnous, this is hard enough you may need to hunt again, especially of your sacrifice wasn't particularly impressive. Most Holy Hunting Grounds make this ritual easier though, effectively letting you get away with a weaker prey than other wise.
Khaine: The Bloody Handed Lord of Murder and Violence. This is a god that believes conflict is necessary for peace. In some ways he is easiest to bring back since he is but shattered, not fallen. On the other hand any attempt to restore him should be bound to accept violence and he would be a dominant force. Probably best to make sure he is among the last Eldar Gods restored. On the tail though he is one of the stronger Eldar gods and probably the easiest of those to restore.
-Build a version of his temple.
-Carry the Hearthstone in battle and involve it in as many murders as possible. (Most High version lowers the murder count by like a level of magnitude)
-When it goes "Ding" somewhere between hundreds of millions and billions of murders you will feel a compulsion to hunt down a Avatar of Khaine
-Use the Avatar and the Hearthstone to Murder Khaine back to life. Expect most things on that field of battle to die, could maybe be exploited?
Hoec: A mysterious Wanderer, he knows all the secret paths, patron of scholars, savants, and sorcerers. We must solve cursed riddles to unlock locations far flung through the galaxy and with great mastery of time and space weave a grand galaxy spanning ritual. Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.
-Abraxus Project to unlock the locations
-Divinatory knowledge for organizing ritual
-Traveling to far flung destinations across the galaxy
-execute grand ritual (having temples lower DC, most holy lowers it the most)
Lileath: Isha's Daughter, goddess of Dreams and Fortune. For her benefit a prophecy must be executing grand in scope and endeavour.
-Build a version of her loom to cast dream
-develop a far flung divination pattern. The prophecy must take 100 + years to enact and with preperations and time to get ready you may need to divine further than 100 years out or risk missing your chance.
-Use divine aide you have access to such as Isha or Abraxus if nothing else to set up the prophecy and Lileaths Loom to cast it forth as a dream to her chosen reciepient.
-various projects aiding the prophecy such as purposely hindering or aiding the chosen one in their journey. Most high version of loom helps this go more smoothly.
-Prophecy enacted restores Lileath too.
Morai-Heg: The Crone goddess of Fate and souls. Restoring her requires questing deep into the Heart of the Eye of Terror to visit Crone worlds seeking to shift the balance of fate and souls to enact her renewal
-Build her temple, Most High would be best but technically the lesser ones work it just means harder quests
-A series of five vision quests which each grant a Crone world and a mission to execute on said crone world
-execute the missions
-perform a ritual at either her temple or perhaps a former temple of hers on a crone world. Last is easier ritual but will be spoiled by Daemons almost certainly.
Asuryan: The Phoenix King, Keeper of the Balance, Eldest of Eldar Gods. God of Fire and Light. While conceptual he is among the easiest to resurrect, the cost is great indeed for those who Choose the sun.
-Use divination to find a sun that will go super nova in the future but with enough time to set up
-build elaborate geomantic/astromantic constructs around the sun to channel its super nova into sacred mantras
-Asuryan is reborn when the nova goes off assuming nothing disturbs the geomancy.
Gea: Consort of Asuryan and Khaine and mother of many other gods, both listed here and lesser ones.
-Restore Khaine and Asuryan
-restore some of her lesser children through direct god-forging.
-conduct ritual.
This post is subject to updates.
- Location
- California
He still lives…..
Bazinga.
He's alive and not imprisoned, so he's probably there, ready to fuck it all up.
This seems setup to have a optimal order or orders. Asuryan... nah. Unless you can overlay syncretize Sun on him though it's probably not a good idea.
Also there is someone conspicuously missing.
This seems setup to have a optimal order or orders. Asuryan... nah. Unless you can overlay syncretize Sun on him though it's probably not a good idea.
Also there is someone conspicuously missing.
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The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
That is a good question. Can we do more difficult quests in exchange for bringing back modified versions of the gods? Like a less batshit insane Khaine or a more Unconquered Asuryan?
Maybe if you had previously taken that Deva forging lesson but you haven't. Basically they are all too high essence to modify based on what you know.
The vote may have won but the result is a project that you didn't undertake. Blame tzneetch I guess?
The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
So if we grab deva forging before finishing all these questlines (for example, if we decide Khaine, Asuryan and maybe Mori-Hag if we decide we want to try and get someone more Korish are too much of a hassle to summon as is) would we be able to? Would Deva Forging be available next time actually?
No promises, the more time that passes the more the lessons become those of this world instead of the old world. I cannot imagine you are going to Rush the ressurection fast enough that it will come to that before you need to make a choice.
Please consider that the gods themselves or the Eldar may not react well to your tampering though.
- Location
- Alberta
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I only hope that the term "no good deed goes unpunished" is not applied in this situation.
- Location
- Rochester MN
[X]Exigence, the Divine Flame
Blame Tzneetch I
- Location
- Portland
Within the heart of Ondar Shambal, blanketed by the presence of the One Most High, lies a fortified bunker. Within the many layers of Orichalcum walls, layers of gates, guards, and multiple basement floors, lies a series of prison cells, crafted for the most terrible foes of the dragon kings.
Despite the depth, there is no darkness here. The efforts of the dragon kings to reach closer to The Unconquered Sun have had far reaching effects, and even the most deepest pits in this city shine with a mellow light, a balm to the righteous and faithful, but overbearing to those that do not cleave to his side.
For those that draw his ire, it is an omnipresent dread. His presence is a palpable, inescapable fact of existence, an itch that can never be scratched, the weight of his disapproval smoldering like the sun, yet it is a distant thing. The worst part of it all, that which feeds the dread deep in his foes, is that all this is merely a side effect. He is distant, farther away than they can comprehend, and all but the greatest are simply not worth more than a shred of his attention.
Beryl leans into the masterfully crafted manacles holding her in place, curling herself into a ball. 60 years, chained not only to the temporally and physically inflexible materium, but in this hell, have worn her down to almost nothing. Lifting her head up, she curses the masterful planning of the lizard kings, willing to do anything, even join their side, in order for this diabolical plan to end.
Moments later, a soft clunk rings out, as the door slowly slides open, the craftsmanship too sublime for a mere 60 years to cause a squeak.
A sudden spark of hope, buried for so long, flares to life, Beryl leans forward, ready to swear anything to get herself out of this sunlit hell.
Standing in the doorway, a strangely bashful dragon king stands, scratching his head somewhat awkwardly.
"So, uh. We kind of forgot about you."
A long, unhinged, shuddering laugh tears out of Beryl's throat, tearing clear through to the surface, as tears streak down her face.
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