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Constellations (Worm/Okami)

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AspBlastUSA said:
You may have missed part of the conversation there. That post was in response to a suggestion that Chessman should team up with Vista to hide empowered 40k miniatures (the titans mentioned) behind improbably small concealment, an old meme referencing a character who could essentially do just that.
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a just as planned creed moment?
though that brings to mind a thought.... since Chessman does miniatures and models, does the chessman have any nautical models of ships like say Bismark and Yamato? I bring up Bismark in particular because sabaton and WOWS did the thing and the song is kind of stuck in my head.
And wouldn't that be a broken as hell plsnerf ability if his powers worked on that kind of firepower.
 
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twitcheycrow said:
a just as planned creed moment?
though that brings to mind a thought.... since Chessman does miniatures and models, does the chessman have any nautical models of ships like say Bismark and Yamato? I bring up Bismark in particular because sabaton and WOWS did the thing and the song is kind of stuck in my head.
And wouldn't that be a broken as hell plsnerf ability if his powers worked on that kind of firepower.
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Well, they need body of water of function first. UnwelcomeStorm already said that minis works on predetermined rules, especially on gaming minis, and they can't really mimic/ create 'esoteric power' as well. I figured this also meant ship minis requires body of water to function.

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...That said, my brain start questioning if nendoroid can work in such scenario. :V :V :V
 
RBomber said:
Well, they need body of water of function first. UnwelcomeStorm already said that minis works on predetermined rules, especially on gaming minis, and they can't really mimic/ create 'esoteric power' as well. I figured this also meant ship minis requires body of water to function.
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What about a model of, say, the Space Battleship Yamato or some other atmosphere-capable sci-fi spaceship?

I suspect the Wave Motion Gun might be able to end an Endbringer fight REALLY fast.....
 
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RBomber said:
Well, they need body of water of function first. UnwelcomeStorm already said that minis works on predetermined rules, especially on gaming minis, and they can't really mimic/ create 'esoteric power' as well. I figured this also meant ship minis requires body of water to function.

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...That said, my brain start questioning if nendoroid can work in such scenario. :V :V :V
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Wasn't there an old tabletop game where it was basically a BOLO tank vs. an entire army?

I don't THINK that'd count as Tinkertech, just a really massive tank.


Edit: It probably wouldn't help vs. an Endbringer, but it'd certainly up his BROWN PANTS rating to be able to summon a tank the size of a small city.
 
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Valdimarian said:
Wasn't there an old tabletop game where it was basically a BOLO tank vs. an entire army?

I don't THINK that'd count as Tinkertech, just a really massive tank.


Edit: It probably wouldn't help vs. an Endbringer, but it'd certainly up his BROWN PANTS rating to be able to summon a tank the size of a small city.
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That's be ORGE from Steve Jackson Games, which has the benefit of the Tanks not being sapient. Because sometime you don't want God-Shanking Philosopher-Kings on the battlefield. I kid, as a fan of both. But OGREs are explicitly not ultra-intelligent, and mostly pre-programmed. There were also two variants(one produced by that company) that were slightly less powerful. Rivits(A Fan Game), which were sapient but more like things from Cars and set after the war, and G.E.V. which was just generally lower powered and considered more of a sequel to OGRE.

G.E.V. focused on more conventional infantry forces. I'm using Conventional somewhat loosely because you had Hover-Tanks instead of the giant tank. G.E.V. seems to be more in his wheel-house, but hey, I'm just a table-top nerd.

Edit: G.E.V. also had more terrain rules and an innovative for the time point based objective system, which if reflected in his units would add a certain amount of flexibility even when he was over-extending himself.
 
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RBomber said:
Well, they need body of water of function first. UnwelcomeStorm already said that minis works on predetermined rules, especially on gaming minis, and they can't really mimic/ create 'esoteric power' as well. I figured this also meant ship minis requires body of water to function.
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And where would you find a large body of water in Brockton Bay, right?
 
sdwood said:
Three words: Containment Foam Shells.
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...Can Chessman do that? I mean, modify naval gun to fire containment foam shells? Except if there's this tabletop game or historical bits about Bismarck firing containment shells....

(I tend to think this basically closer to 'esoteric effect', because naval gun usually used as gun. To deliver big boom. Never heard of naval shells used to deliver nerve gas, for example.)

(Feel free to correct me, though)
 
RBomber said:
...Can Chessman do that? I mean, modify naval gun to fire containment foam shells? Except if there's this tabletop game or historical bits about Bismarck firing containment shells....

(I tend to think this basically closer to 'esoteric effect', because naval gun usually used as gun. To deliver big boom. Never heard of naval shells used to deliver nerve gas, for example.)

(Feel free to correct me, though)
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It's more like this:
  1. Enbiggen the ship mini
  2. Load Confoam shells
  3. Fire as normal
  4. Profit!
 
sdwood said:
Three words: Containment Foam Shells.
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Hey, 'sup, how's it going? I wanna show you something regard Naval Artillery, so just bear with me okay? Particularly since I have to reread somethings...

Okay, so below are pictures of Iowa and Wisconsin firing full broadside, and I need you to pay attention to the water:


The disturbances you see in the water are caused by the shock waves from the guns firing. In the top picture, the shock wave causes a disturbance with a diameter a little more than half the length of the ship, and furthermore, there is no one on deck, because they would be killed by the shock wave. Just keep this in mind, I'll get back to it later.

The Yamato's guns were designed to fire shells of 1,360kg and 1,460kg in weight at distances of up to 42km at maximum elevation, with a muzzle velocity of 780m/s. While the Bismarck's own guns fired 800kg shells at distances of up to 35.5km with a muzzle velocity of 820m/s.

Now, where am I going with this? The Containment Shells you are saying that can be fired from either ship to reduce their lethality will need the following:
1) To be designed to fit either gun so that they can be fired in the first place (46cm for the Yamato, 38cm for the Bismarck)
2) To be fired using the correct amount of charge so that they can clear the gun barrel, the ship's immediate area, and reach the target

Remember that point I made about the shock waves of the Iowa's Mark 7s being lethal? A shock wave is just air, literally just...air.

The speeds that the Containment Foam fired from the Yamato or Bismarck will reach WILL make them lethal. Sssssoooooo, my suggestion? Shelf that idea, it would only lead to increased collateral damage and needless loss of life, on top attracting more violent Parahumans who would want to try to take on a battleship just so that they could say that they won.
 
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Or just leave it to the troops who are already equipped and trained in using Containment Foam. Simple, efficient solutions are the best solutions.

Especially when they don't tip off the full extent of your capabilities.
 
qsurf said:
*snip

0_o

Wow...
That's a big boom.

All joking aside, yeah. You don't want to get hit by that.

Also, I think our Glorious Provider of Good doG Snugglefluffs already covered stuff like this in an earlier part of the thread as a "Can Danny use (X) should be phrased as SHOULD Danny use (X)" explanation. I think it was in response to the earlier questions of Danny using 40K Battle Titans.
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Valette.Serafina said:
Makes sense. Cats are the natural enemies of mice, and dogs are the natural enemies of cats. They're clearly the perfect superhero team up.

Of course, being superheroes, that means they have to fight the first time they meet.
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"Okay, now let's begin our first misunderstanding fi-"

*Shows up with several Waffle House Breakfast package in tow*

"Drats, damn you, you already found my weakness! I had been defeated!"
 
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