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Constellations (Worm/Okami)

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@UnwelcomeStorm, was rewatching your Okami video and I think what I said got misinterpreted so I'll try to explain:

For context, you were asking about why the different characters all had "their" items on their heads, like with Mr. Orange, Mr. Bamboo, the Cutters... ETC. I think that comes from Japanese plays. During the play, actors would wear masks with very distinctive features like red hair or a super long nose or other combinations of that sort of thing so that audience members in the very back could tell who was whom. (I think it might also play into some hair color tropes too.) Basically, the idea of making visual distinctions of characters that could be seen from long distance is a bit of a memory device.

I mean you definitely remember the old dude with a bouncing orange on his head more than you do say... The tea shop owner in Taka Pass.
 
Okay, look, I wanted to think of a clever confusing-words-playing way to say this, but enough. The easily confused words are off-topic. Can we please stop.
 
i have binged through this story(and the comments) for... i forget how long it took me, actually. but i have caught up! and i have been loving this story!
 
Characters from the game that I'd really like to make an appearance? The sparrow yakuza. Perhaps with jungle crow enforcers. After all, somebirdy has to operate Pawprint Shrine's onsen.
 
Rereading this on SB and I did notice something that I hadn't before. The author brought up the possibility of Yami possessing Eden's corpse. If there was ever anything that would get Zion to stay on the good side, I'd say it's finding out that someone on the bad side was wearing his dead wife as a skin suit.
 
You're assuming Scion would notice the difference; you are also assuming he/it would care. I tend to favor emotional-style scion myself, because Scion/Eden makes for a decent love story, but it's worth remembering that Entities are essentially a super-advanced disease, with about as much natural personality as the bubonic plague.
Depending on the version portrayed, it's entirely possible that Scion's only response to its partners possession would be, 'But can she still have kids with me?' If the possessed Eden corpse can continue the cycle, what does it matter if some weird spirit thing is in the drivers seat?
 
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You're assuming Scion would notice the difference; you are also assuming he/it would care. I tend to favor emotional-style scion myself, because Scion/Eden makes for a decent love story, but it's worth remembering that Entities are essentially a super-advanced disease, with about as much natural personality as the bubonic plague.
Depending on the version portrayed, it's entirely possible that Scion's only response to its partners possession would be, 'But can she still have kids with me?' If the possessed Eden corpse can continue the cycle, what does it matter if some weird spirit thing is in the drivers seat?
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The fact that grief was able to be weaponized against him shows that he has emotions. So I figure there's more there than just survival logic.
 
Zer-Author said:
You're assuming Scion would notice the difference; you are also assuming he/it would care. I tend to favor emotional-style scion myself, because Scion/Eden makes for a decent love story, but it's worth remembering that Entities are essentially a super-advanced disease, with about as much natural personality as the bubonic plague.
Depending on the version portrayed, it's entirely possible that Scion's only response to its partners possession would be, 'But can she still have kids with me?' If the possessed Eden corpse can continue the cycle, what does it matter if some weird spirit thing is in the drivers seat?
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... This kinda 'logic bot' idea always annoys me when I see it.

'As an unemotional logic bot, I am in no way concerned by learning that my long term ally I can accurately predict has been replaced by an unknown being of unknown temperment and unknown goals, as long as it can, in principle, perform the role that ally was meant to fill, even though I have no way of knowing that it would actually bother, and not go on to pursue a contrary agenda instead'

Like, emotional panic is far from the only reason to find mysterious skinwalkers concerning.
 
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You're assuming Scion would notice the difference; you are also assuming he/it would care.
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He may not care in the same way a human would, but we do know for a fact that he does, because he canonically is disgusted by seeing Cauldron capes walk around. As in, the capes that are wearing bits of Eden's dead skin. And the bigger the bit of skin, the more he's disgusted by you.

He might choose to ally with a pseudo-Eden, but after actual thinking and weighing his options, much like he did before going for the "I'll attempt self-determination" course -- and he'd need to be able to consider the pseudo-Eden as trustworthy. He blindly trusts other Entities to share his end goal because they're other Entities and they all have the same core memories; the same wouldn't apply to a being he knows to be alien. That'd take a deployment of diplomatic skills that Yami hasn't exactly shown he possessed.

On top of that, even at his worst, Zion does not actually want what Yami wants. Zion might not care about life on Earth or the fate of this or that dimension, but he very much does need the Earth itself, both as food, ground to stand on without drifting off into space, a place to wait for another of his kind to arrive, and energy/propulsion for either himself or his offspring. Nor does he want to cover it in darkness (how then would shards gather radiation from the sun?), much less empty the universe (he's planning on filling it or improving its capacity). He might go along with some destruction to gather data and pass the time, but would not actually ally with either Yami or Akuro.
 
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    • Taylor was sipping a coke, no rum, at the bar while ignoring the noises behind her. Hearing a banging noise, she glanced at the rather beautiful man in robes down from her. Someone who was obviously a Case 53 due to his extra appendanges. "Something wrong?"

    Sighing, and what a beautiful sigh it was, the man shook his head. "No, nothing is wrong Miss Hebert. Just... my boss is all."

    Eyebrow raising, Taylor considered that for several moments before looking over at the table where Sunny was seated. "Ah, I see then."

    Only snorting, the man also glanced at said table and rolled his eyes. "I'm supposed to protect Him every time He does this sort of thing. And you have no idea how often it is..." Taking a sip of his wine, he shook his head. "How do you deal with it?"

    Blinking in confusion, Taylor frowned. "Deal with it? Deal with what?"

    His own eyebrow raising, the man gave her a look. "Your boss and the sort of things that she gets up to, of course."

    Arms crossed, Taylor's frown deepened. "My boss? Who are you talking about, Lung? Because he's no boss of mine."

    For several moments, the man stared at her before a loud laugh exploded from Taylor's other side and she felt a hand slap her on the back. Granted, said arm also nearly knocked her from the stool she sat on. "HA! You hear that, Mikey? She is still in the Denial Phase!"

    There was a sniff from further down from the odd woman with a lion's head and what looked like a ball of plasma above it between two prongs. Something about her seemed awfully familiar. "I swear to my Lord, if you make one joke about the Nile, I will smack you Brunhild! See if I don't!"

    On "Mikey's" other side there was an odd echoing laugh as a three faced man slapped his knee. "She doesn't have to, because you just did!"

    All Brunhild did was raise a goblet to him while ignoring the lion headed woman's glare at them both. Taylor, meanwhile, just ordered another coke before turning back to the poker game while ignoring how freaked out the bartender looked. Besides Sunny, there was this one man who looked Middle Eastern with long hair and an odd glow around his head. Besides him, there was a man with a number of arms and the head of an elephant, another Middle Eastern looking man with a hawk's head and another ball of plasma above it. Oh, there was also one guy there with odd marks around his lips like they had been stiched together.

    With a shrug, Taylor brought her attention to the others at the bar while they waited for the other group to finish their poker game. Though she did wonder why they said "Thunder-Butt" was still banned after the last time and who he might be...
     
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    • Harry Leferts said:
    With a shrug, Taylor brought her attention to the others at the bar while they waited for the other group to finish their poker game. Though she did wonder why they said "Thunder-Butt" was still banned after the last time and who he might be...
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    IIRC, (from Scion the RPG) "Thunder-Butt" would be Raiden? Or was it Susanoo?
     
    I thought the guy with the sewn together lips was Loki of the Norse Pantheon. I'm sure Thoth of the Egyptian lot is in there too. Thunder Butt could be Thor.
     
    Troy Guffey said:
    IIRC, (from Scion the RPG) "Thunder-Butt" would be Raiden? Or was it Susanoo?
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    Anfan said:
    I thought it was a comment about Sunny!
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    Jormuungaand said:
    I thought the guy with the sewn together lips was Loki of the Norse Pantheon. I'm sure Thoth of the Egyptian lot is in there too. Thunder Butt could be Thor.
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    Its Zeus actually. Let's just say he was up to his usual things and pissing off everyone else...
     
    Heheh, poor @Harry Leferts. Having to explain your joke just ruins it. I'll leave it be and just laugh at what I found funny.

    EDIT: and Harry jumps in and makes it funny again letting us know the hothead Zeus was the butt of the joke! :ninja:
     
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    Ah thunderbutt. Gold. This story is really fun to read. I thought I would bump this a bit and say that I really enjoy this. Thank you!
     
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    You know, I just had a though that I'm not sure was brought up in this thread (at least a quick thread search didn't turn anything up)...will Chibiterasu ever show up in this fic? Maybe if Armsmaster caves and adopts a puppy :p
     
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