PlaguePaladin
The Bird Lady
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She's already here, actually.
Confringentur 2; a Madoka Magica / Fate/Stay Night sequel
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I was not planning on having us go without asking Rin, even if it isn't explicitly voted on by anyone. If nobody votes for it, she'll probably just barge in and do Rin things things until we agree.
Of course. Kanna was supposed to be the Niko that Niko couldn't be, so of course they're going to be incredibly similar deep down. If Umika hadn't screwed things up, the only difference between Niko and Kanna would be that Kanna isn't consumed by her guilt.
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I mean asking tohsaka for her trusted friend back in clock tower to come to mitakihara and help us in dealing with sidonia. At the top of my head I can think about waver, luvia, and maybe ilya.
The reward for them is researching a new field of magecraft regarding soulgem and grief seeds and old rune from age of god
Wich can also be framed, as envoy from clocktower which maybe will calm down the heat in there
I mean asking tohsaka for her trusted friend back in clock tower to come to mitakihara and help us in dealing with sidonia. At the top of my head I can think about waver, luvia, and maybe ilya.
The reward for them is researching a new field of magecraft regarding soulgem and grief seeds and old rune from age of god
Wich can also be framed, as envoy from clocktower which maybe will calm down the heat in there
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Not enough time. And the most likely rep the clocktower would send is a descendant of Sidonia who kind of worships her. We already had to lie to her about who Sidonia is to keep her from coming.
At this point I already sattle for Ilya, especially if she still have Berserker
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Of course she does.
However, as a counterpoint I have to bring up two things. The first is that contacting Illya is something that's under our control. Homura has phone numbers to reach Illya at both the Emiya household, and the Einzbern mansion in Fuyuki. So if we want Illya's help, we have to vote on it. That isn't something I"ll just give to us if we have the power to do it ourselves. The second is that we're very close to the end - today is October 30th, and Sidonia's plan goes live on November 1st - and the cast is already massive enough as it is. If she arrived she would have all of tomorrow and the fight on the 1st, and I can't guarantee that Illya will have much screentime to do much of anything at all. If we want to contact her, that's something we'll have to keep in mind. Sakura is my favourite of the three main heroines, and I've still had a hard time fitting her in where appropriate, and she's been here for about a week.
Now, this is not to say that I want to discourage voting for something just because I can't guarantee that I'll be able to properly balance their inclusion. But what I am saying is that people have voted that way in the past, and I can't guarantee that anyone else will vote to bring Illya into the fold. That's something you'll have to convince the others of yourself if you want to see her make an appearance.
With only one day left, it's... kinda dire isn't?
Whelp let's just hope for the best
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That's why Plague was concerned about putting the eggheads through the wringer earlier. We're on a real time crunch due to some IC and OOC mismanaging of our time, and it's come back to bite us in a big way. I don't mean to sound dire or to sound like I'm discouraging you for joining so late, that's just how things are, and since you probably didn't read the OOC stuff I just want to make sure you're on the same page as everyone else when ideas are being tossed around.
That said, I'll say the same thing I said in the previous story; I will never throw something at you that 100% cannot be beaten. So even if it looks dire, there's still a chance.
PlaguePaladin
The Bird Lady
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Oh, I thought you said earlier that we weren't allowed to bring Ilya and Berserker in? If I had known we could've, I would've done this way sooner.
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First, I admit that I don't remember saying this. Second, if I did say this, I think I probably would have said it in reference to not bringing her in against the Saints, since I had balanced the War aspect to be our seven versus their seven. If I messed up and made it seem like we couldn't bring her in at all, then that's on me for failing to properly communicate it, even if I don't remember ever communicating it in the first place. It wouldn't be the first time I've improperly communicated something and messed everything else up as a result.
I am still hesitant about bringing her in, because we're so close to the end and I'm not sure if I'd be able to balance her appearance with everything else that's happening, but that's different from saying "No Illya because Berserker will disrupt the balance of power".
EDIT: Also, it just struck me, but didn't we say we wanted to work those Luck charms into the revisions Oriko was making to our Soul Gem protection charms? Do you remember that or not? If we're lucky, we might not even have to press the eggheads for one more thing. Do you remember which day it was that this got discussed?
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This was the latest I can find you saying on the subject of Illya showing up. But this was also super early on,
As for the Luck charms, Day 25 Part 16 seems to be the only time they were mentioned in character, from what I could find.
PlaguePaladin
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Knowing what NMS has pulled up, I think my brain assumed that you would consider Herc imbalanced for the Sidonia fight; unless she can kill him in 12 different ways, he's not going to die. It's a bit hard to tell because of how much he got worf'd in F/SN, but he's basically going to be in the top 3 fighters here. Hell, he'd basically be a way to tie up Sigurd for the whole fight. And, unlike everyone else here, Herc has B-rank luck. He has the power of basically getting bonuses on saving throws and having his destiny look up compared to people with low luck.
Also, thanks for the info NMS.
Edit: Okay some of our Servants have good luck, but my point stands.
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Having actually gotten to the part in FGO where Sigurd shows up. He really should have been a non-issue for us. Bryn is both the Servant that killed him and her Noble Phantasm is the crystallization of the moment she killed him. By all rights, Sigurd shouldn't be able to beat her even with Class Advantage.
The only reason Sigurd wasn't instantly vaporized in canon by her NP was because he was possessed by Surtr at the time, so the Conceptual Advantage Bryn had over him was slightly negated.
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Privately, I'm counting at between five to seven ways in which Sidonia or one of her assets could kill Heracles, not counting the possibility that Sigurd (or Gudrun if Sidonia is able to summon her) manages to take a life or two in their own fight. It's not twelve, yet, but it's also not 100% impossible on her end either. So I'm really not sure how I would call this one as of right now.
Being an FGO-non this is something that went completely over my head every time they fought. Second, I'd like to counter and say that Bryn goes completely unfocused and apeshit when she's fighting Sigurd, and she never manages to get her NP off against him successfully here because Oriko has been more concerned with keeping Bryn alive than with finishing the fight to the risk of her death.
PlaguePaladin
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I think the thing that scares me the most is that Excalibur at full power should be able to shave off about 7 lives if used at maximum full power (but displays less capability as God Hand reacts to it), and Gram is said to basically be Excalibur's rival in Confringentur; this is primarily why I want to either send Brynhildr over to him to tie him up, or send in Achilles with Diatrekhōn Astēr Lonkhē or Akhilleus Kosmos to lock him in place and make sure he doesn't use Gram. If we could've found a way to resolve Berserker's madness enhancement I'd be more confident, since he'd be capable of using tactics that would prevent Sigurd from using Gram against him (and also Nine Lives, which is OP as hell).
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I want to thank you for saying this, because you've just reminded me that I've been missing out on one very important character interaction in particular; Lancelot and Sakura. Since he's had his own ME dialed down, he should really say something to her.
Day 28 Chapter 28
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[X] Plan: Hope She Understands
Now, there's just one thing left you have to worry about; aside from feeding, showering, sheltering, and cleaning up Hijiri Kanna so she can be turned over to the Saints after she's had a decent rest; and that's, how do you tell your mother about all of this?
"What is she doing here?"
Maybe you should have started with trying to explain things.
"All right, let's everybody just calm down," Archer says, stepping between Hijiri Kanna and Minako. "I don't like it either, Minako, but Homura made a deal with the little rat. A hot meal, a shower, and a good night's rest were part of that deal."
"Oh?" Minako crosses her arms over her chest, staring at the wretched homunculus as she crouches behind your father, desperate to avoid her glare. Seeing that she'll get no response from Hijiri Kanna, your mother turns to you instead; "And what deal did you make with her, Homura? After she sold us out to that woman, I thought for sure that you would have-"
"I couldn't leave her there." You have to cut your mother off. "I know, mom, I wanted to, so badly, after the way she sold us out to Sidonia. But… You don't understand, mom. She was living out of a cardboard box when I found her. She literally has nowhere else to go. On top of that, she's sick; Sidonia paid her back for selling us out by infecting her with Grief, and most of the people who are in a position treat a Grief infection are here or live within walking distance of here."
You don't tell your mother that Hijiri Kanna's illness is of her own making. If she had kept her mouth shut and not demanded that Sidonia replace her own arm with Kanna Niko's, she wouldn't be in this mess right now. "Nurse Ortensia is coming over to help treat her, and we're turning her over to the Saints tomorrow, where I don't know what they'll do to her." You hang your head, and hope that your mother will be more merciful towards Hijiri Kanna than she should be. "For all I know, this could be her last meal if things turn out poorly."
"I'm sure I won't be a bother to you, ma'am," Hijiri Kanna says. "I probably won't be alive long enough to be."
Lancer glares down at Hijiri Kanna, saying to her "Child, have I not already lectured you about how easily you forsake your life? Grow up. Respect the efforts of the people who are doing what they can for you. Do not be ungrateful for this second chance."
Frustrated by her charge's stubbornness, Lancer grabs Hijiri Kanna by the collar of her hoodie, and drags her before Minako, forcing her to bow. "Be respectful," she says. "The mistress' mother does not need to give you this second chance after you have wronged her family."
"I'm sorry," Hijiri Kanna says. She looks pitiful like this; her left arm clings to her side tightly when she bows, as it should, but her ruined right arm just hangs there limply, dangling straight down and causing a pained grimace to emerge on her face. "I know I've caused your family harm through my actions. I have no excuse."
Hijiri Kanna holds herself like that until, you imagine, the pain in her ruined shoulder becomes too much to bear, and she straightens herself, reaching across her chest with her left arm to hold her right in a place where the pain is at least manageable for her. Minako, seeing this display, looks from Hijiri Kanna to Archer, but remains silent.
Finally, after what feels like an eternity passing, where your mother and father share a silent conversation through only their eyes, Minako speaks. "I'd be well within my rights to tell you to get out and never come near my family again," she says. "Or at least, I would be. But this isn't my house, and since Bryn's with you all I imagine Oriko's given this venture her blessing." Minako sighs to herself, and continues, saying "So, fine, you can come in. You look like crap, and I'd be a pretty terrible excuse for a mother if I let you go off on your own when you're in such a state."
"Thank you," Hijiri Kanna says. "It's more than I deserve."
Minako purses her lips, staring at Hijiri Kanna as she enters the mansion. When she struggles to take her shoes off with just her left hand, Minako asks "What happened to her other arm?"
"That's what she's here to be treated for," Archer replies. "Sidonia messed her arm up pretty good, and there's a clump of Grief that needs to come out." As you crouch over to help Hijiri Kanna with her shoes, Archer continues, saying to Minako in a low voice "Unfortunately, her arm's in such bad shape that it needs to come off. Ortensia is coming to help, and so is the Saints' Assassin servant, who is a doctor. They're going to discuss options going forward, whether they'll replace it with a new one or a prosthetic, but…"
Neither you nor Hijiri Kanna want to hear any more of that conversation. "The kitchen is this way," you say to her; though for the few days she spent in your team's ill-fated base, made in the floorplan of Oriko's mansion, she probably already knows the way. "We've got some slices of pizza in the fridge that I can warm up for you, or if you'd prefer I'm sure we could make you something else."
"Pizza's fine," Hijiri Kanna says. "Easier to eat with one hand."
The flash of pity you feel for Hijiri Kanna as she holds up her only working hand for you is almost enough to wipe away how angry you still are at her for selling your family out to Sidonia. "I'm sorry," you say to her. "It didn't have to be this way."
"I know," Hijiri Kanna replies. "But I made my bed, so now I have to lie down in it. I took her arm, so it's only fair that I have to lose one in return."
"I'm sure you'll have a new one soon enough," you say. Oriko, Lancer, Assassin, and Scáthach all know the proper runes for regrowning or reattaching a lost limb – you know you've seen Oriko reattach lost limbs before with her Uruz rune, as a matter of fact – and you know McRemitz-san, who knows a decent prosthetics specialist. But you don't say any of that. Instead, you say "You're being remarkably more mature about this than I thought you would be. I'm glad."
"Having someone I thought I could trust violate me and kick me out of their corner was a wake-up call to just how terrible I'd really been," Hijiri Kanna says. "I felt what it was like to be betrayed, and I didn't like it. So I can only imagine how terrible it must have been for all of you when you found out I'd sold you out to her."
"Hey sis, heard you got back and-!" Kirika rounds the corner into the kitchen, stopping as she sees Hijiri Kanna with you. "You." She growls the single word, staring at Hijiri Kanna like a mad dog. "Sis, are you sure about this?" she asks. "What if she sells mom out to Sidonia again-?"
"I won't." Hijiri Kanna towers over Kirika in height, but broken by her injuries and beaten down by life, the taller girl appears shorter than your sister, in spirit if not in fact. "Sidonia kicked me out. I don't answer to her anymore."
Hijiri Kanna sits down at the table, and you spend the next several seconds bartering with Kirika in silence; for her cooperation, for her pity if not her forgiveness, and for her help. Finally, she agrees, and the two of you take out the leftover slices of pizza to be warmed up in the oven. "She looks like shit," Kirika says, finally breaking the silence. "What happened to her?" Mentally, not verbally.
"She asked Sidonia to put Kanna Niko's arm onto her," you respond. "So she did. Sidonia used a lump of Grief as her solder, and welded the arm onto her shoulder in place of her own. Now the Grief is infecting her, and Archer says the arm needs to come off." Not that if would matter even if she weren't being infected; the arm would need to come off regardless if for no other reason than it not being properly attached.
"Geez." Kirika recoils at your description; "And I'm guessing Oriko already knows all this?"
"Lancer explained the situation to her on the way over," you reply. "I'm not sure where she's planning to put Hijiri Kanna up, but part of the deal I made with her for telling us what she knew about Sidonia's plans was a hot meal, a shower, and a place to stay the night. But we're transferring her to the Saints' tomorrow, and I don't know what they'll do to her from there."
"Hopefully they kill her." You stare at Kirika. You imagine your silent conversation with your sister is unnerving Hijiri Kanna, but right now you're more concerned with your sister than with your guest. "You said she needs the arm gone? I'd do it myself if you'd let me. Hell, she's lucky I don't just fuck her to death with my claws right here and now for how she sold us out to Sidonia."
"I'm mad at her too," you say. "We all are, and we've all got a right to be. But killing her doesn't solve anything. It doesn't make mom any safer, and it doesn't make us good people if we kill her after she's cooperated with us this much."
"I know that!" Kirika's outburst is so loud, so public, that you'd be amazed if the entire neighbourhood didn't come running. "I know it won't do anything! But she's the reason mom's in danger! I can't just overlook that 'cause you said so!"
Before you have a chance to say anything, Hijiri Kanna speaks up. "You can feel free to hate me as much as you want," she says. "Frankly, at this point I'm just wondering what'll kill me first; the corruption that's been inside me for a week, or someone who's pissed off because I sold them out to Sidonia."
"Nobody is going to kill you," you say to Hijiri Kanna. Kirika's glare is desperately trying to say otherwise, however. "Neither is the Grief. We're going to flush that out of you, and you'll be alive and well so you can make up for your earlier actions. You can't do that if you're dead." You turn your head, glaring at Kirika and daring her to try anything. "Yes, that girl has seriously fucked us all over, and you have every right to be upset. I know I am. But I will not let you kill her. She still has to make amends for everything she's done."
"Dearest? Is everything all right-?" In your silent conversation with Kirika, you hadn't noticed the sound of footsteps coming down the stairs. Oriko enters the kitchen, stopping as she notices you and Hijiri Kanna. "Oh, Akemi-san, you're back." Oriko turns, bowing for the guest you've dragged along. "Hijiri-san," Oriko addresses her in a much tenser voice. "I'm sorry to hear about your arm. But I wanted to let you know that Caren-san will be arriving shortly."
"That's your cousin, right?" Hijiri Kanna asks. "The one that looks like you."
Oriko nods her head. "That's correct, Hijiri-san. Caren-san is my cousin." Oriko's eyes wander over to the oven, and to the now-warm pizza slices plated for Hijiri Kanna. "Once she and Nightingale have arrived, I'm sure they'll want to get started on your… Operation, as soon as possible. I don't mean to rush you when you're eating, but I strongly recommend that you finish eating and take your shower before they arrive." Oriko stops herself, before quickly adding "Do you need a change of clothes? They might be a little big in the chest, but I'd be happy to let you borrow something of mine to wear while Lancer is cleaning your hoodie and shorts."
At first, Hijiri Kanna's response is a sour one; "I don't think that'll be necessary," she says, trying desperately to keep her eyes trained anywhere but the three people surrounding her. "After I'm done with my shower, I imagine it'll be straight away into losing this useless lump of flesh on my shoulder, and from there I'll probably be sedated until morning."
Despite her guest's insistence on looking anywhere but at her while she's talking, Oriko continues to stare at Hijiri Kanna, wearing a concerned look on her face as she speaks. "But, thank you for the offer," Hijiri Kanna says, softening her tone. "In any other instance, I might have taken you up on it. I just don't think it'll be necessary here."
Oriko nods her head, and lets out a low "Mhm" for Hijiri Kanna. "If you change your mind, don't hesitate to speak up," she says. "I won't mind."
You'd like to speak with your team about what's happened here tonight. [ ] What needs to be addressed? (write-in)
Now, there's just one thing left you have to worry about; aside from feeding, showering, sheltering, and cleaning up Hijiri Kanna so she can be turned over to the Saints after she's had a decent rest; and that's, how do you tell your mother about all of this?
"What is she doing here?"
Maybe you should have started with trying to explain things.
"All right, let's everybody just calm down," Archer says, stepping between Hijiri Kanna and Minako. "I don't like it either, Minako, but Homura made a deal with the little rat. A hot meal, a shower, and a good night's rest were part of that deal."
"Oh?" Minako crosses her arms over her chest, staring at the wretched homunculus as she crouches behind your father, desperate to avoid her glare. Seeing that she'll get no response from Hijiri Kanna, your mother turns to you instead; "And what deal did you make with her, Homura? After she sold us out to that woman, I thought for sure that you would have-"
"I couldn't leave her there." You have to cut your mother off. "I know, mom, I wanted to, so badly, after the way she sold us out to Sidonia. But… You don't understand, mom. She was living out of a cardboard box when I found her. She literally has nowhere else to go. On top of that, she's sick; Sidonia paid her back for selling us out by infecting her with Grief, and most of the people who are in a position treat a Grief infection are here or live within walking distance of here."
You don't tell your mother that Hijiri Kanna's illness is of her own making. If she had kept her mouth shut and not demanded that Sidonia replace her own arm with Kanna Niko's, she wouldn't be in this mess right now. "Nurse Ortensia is coming over to help treat her, and we're turning her over to the Saints tomorrow, where I don't know what they'll do to her." You hang your head, and hope that your mother will be more merciful towards Hijiri Kanna than she should be. "For all I know, this could be her last meal if things turn out poorly."
"I'm sure I won't be a bother to you, ma'am," Hijiri Kanna says. "I probably won't be alive long enough to be."
Lancer glares down at Hijiri Kanna, saying to her "Child, have I not already lectured you about how easily you forsake your life? Grow up. Respect the efforts of the people who are doing what they can for you. Do not be ungrateful for this second chance."
Frustrated by her charge's stubbornness, Lancer grabs Hijiri Kanna by the collar of her hoodie, and drags her before Minako, forcing her to bow. "Be respectful," she says. "The mistress' mother does not need to give you this second chance after you have wronged her family."
"I'm sorry," Hijiri Kanna says. She looks pitiful like this; her left arm clings to her side tightly when she bows, as it should, but her ruined right arm just hangs there limply, dangling straight down and causing a pained grimace to emerge on her face. "I know I've caused your family harm through my actions. I have no excuse."
Hijiri Kanna holds herself like that until, you imagine, the pain in her ruined shoulder becomes too much to bear, and she straightens herself, reaching across her chest with her left arm to hold her right in a place where the pain is at least manageable for her. Minako, seeing this display, looks from Hijiri Kanna to Archer, but remains silent.
Finally, after what feels like an eternity passing, where your mother and father share a silent conversation through only their eyes, Minako speaks. "I'd be well within my rights to tell you to get out and never come near my family again," she says. "Or at least, I would be. But this isn't my house, and since Bryn's with you all I imagine Oriko's given this venture her blessing." Minako sighs to herself, and continues, saying "So, fine, you can come in. You look like crap, and I'd be a pretty terrible excuse for a mother if I let you go off on your own when you're in such a state."
"Thank you," Hijiri Kanna says. "It's more than I deserve."
Minako purses her lips, staring at Hijiri Kanna as she enters the mansion. When she struggles to take her shoes off with just her left hand, Minako asks "What happened to her other arm?"
"That's what she's here to be treated for," Archer replies. "Sidonia messed her arm up pretty good, and there's a clump of Grief that needs to come out." As you crouch over to help Hijiri Kanna with her shoes, Archer continues, saying to Minako in a low voice "Unfortunately, her arm's in such bad shape that it needs to come off. Ortensia is coming to help, and so is the Saints' Assassin servant, who is a doctor. They're going to discuss options going forward, whether they'll replace it with a new one or a prosthetic, but…"
Neither you nor Hijiri Kanna want to hear any more of that conversation. "The kitchen is this way," you say to her; though for the few days she spent in your team's ill-fated base, made in the floorplan of Oriko's mansion, she probably already knows the way. "We've got some slices of pizza in the fridge that I can warm up for you, or if you'd prefer I'm sure we could make you something else."
"Pizza's fine," Hijiri Kanna says. "Easier to eat with one hand."
The flash of pity you feel for Hijiri Kanna as she holds up her only working hand for you is almost enough to wipe away how angry you still are at her for selling your family out to Sidonia. "I'm sorry," you say to her. "It didn't have to be this way."
"I know," Hijiri Kanna replies. "But I made my bed, so now I have to lie down in it. I took her arm, so it's only fair that I have to lose one in return."
"I'm sure you'll have a new one soon enough," you say. Oriko, Lancer, Assassin, and Scáthach all know the proper runes for regrowning or reattaching a lost limb – you know you've seen Oriko reattach lost limbs before with her Uruz rune, as a matter of fact – and you know McRemitz-san, who knows a decent prosthetics specialist. But you don't say any of that. Instead, you say "You're being remarkably more mature about this than I thought you would be. I'm glad."
"Having someone I thought I could trust violate me and kick me out of their corner was a wake-up call to just how terrible I'd really been," Hijiri Kanna says. "I felt what it was like to be betrayed, and I didn't like it. So I can only imagine how terrible it must have been for all of you when you found out I'd sold you out to her."
"Hey sis, heard you got back and-!" Kirika rounds the corner into the kitchen, stopping as she sees Hijiri Kanna with you. "You." She growls the single word, staring at Hijiri Kanna like a mad dog. "Sis, are you sure about this?" she asks. "What if she sells mom out to Sidonia again-?"
"I won't." Hijiri Kanna towers over Kirika in height, but broken by her injuries and beaten down by life, the taller girl appears shorter than your sister, in spirit if not in fact. "Sidonia kicked me out. I don't answer to her anymore."
Hijiri Kanna sits down at the table, and you spend the next several seconds bartering with Kirika in silence; for her cooperation, for her pity if not her forgiveness, and for her help. Finally, she agrees, and the two of you take out the leftover slices of pizza to be warmed up in the oven. "She looks like shit," Kirika says, finally breaking the silence. "What happened to her?" Mentally, not verbally.
"She asked Sidonia to put Kanna Niko's arm onto her," you respond. "So she did. Sidonia used a lump of Grief as her solder, and welded the arm onto her shoulder in place of her own. Now the Grief is infecting her, and Archer says the arm needs to come off." Not that if would matter even if she weren't being infected; the arm would need to come off regardless if for no other reason than it not being properly attached.
"Geez." Kirika recoils at your description; "And I'm guessing Oriko already knows all this?"
"Lancer explained the situation to her on the way over," you reply. "I'm not sure where she's planning to put Hijiri Kanna up, but part of the deal I made with her for telling us what she knew about Sidonia's plans was a hot meal, a shower, and a place to stay the night. But we're transferring her to the Saints' tomorrow, and I don't know what they'll do to her from there."
"Hopefully they kill her." You stare at Kirika. You imagine your silent conversation with your sister is unnerving Hijiri Kanna, but right now you're more concerned with your sister than with your guest. "You said she needs the arm gone? I'd do it myself if you'd let me. Hell, she's lucky I don't just fuck her to death with my claws right here and now for how she sold us out to Sidonia."
"I'm mad at her too," you say. "We all are, and we've all got a right to be. But killing her doesn't solve anything. It doesn't make mom any safer, and it doesn't make us good people if we kill her after she's cooperated with us this much."
"I know that!" Kirika's outburst is so loud, so public, that you'd be amazed if the entire neighbourhood didn't come running. "I know it won't do anything! But she's the reason mom's in danger! I can't just overlook that 'cause you said so!"
Before you have a chance to say anything, Hijiri Kanna speaks up. "You can feel free to hate me as much as you want," she says. "Frankly, at this point I'm just wondering what'll kill me first; the corruption that's been inside me for a week, or someone who's pissed off because I sold them out to Sidonia."
"Nobody is going to kill you," you say to Hijiri Kanna. Kirika's glare is desperately trying to say otherwise, however. "Neither is the Grief. We're going to flush that out of you, and you'll be alive and well so you can make up for your earlier actions. You can't do that if you're dead." You turn your head, glaring at Kirika and daring her to try anything. "Yes, that girl has seriously fucked us all over, and you have every right to be upset. I know I am. But I will not let you kill her. She still has to make amends for everything she's done."
"Dearest? Is everything all right-?" In your silent conversation with Kirika, you hadn't noticed the sound of footsteps coming down the stairs. Oriko enters the kitchen, stopping as she notices you and Hijiri Kanna. "Oh, Akemi-san, you're back." Oriko turns, bowing for the guest you've dragged along. "Hijiri-san," Oriko addresses her in a much tenser voice. "I'm sorry to hear about your arm. But I wanted to let you know that Caren-san will be arriving shortly."
"That's your cousin, right?" Hijiri Kanna asks. "The one that looks like you."
Oriko nods her head. "That's correct, Hijiri-san. Caren-san is my cousin." Oriko's eyes wander over to the oven, and to the now-warm pizza slices plated for Hijiri Kanna. "Once she and Nightingale have arrived, I'm sure they'll want to get started on your… Operation, as soon as possible. I don't mean to rush you when you're eating, but I strongly recommend that you finish eating and take your shower before they arrive." Oriko stops herself, before quickly adding "Do you need a change of clothes? They might be a little big in the chest, but I'd be happy to let you borrow something of mine to wear while Lancer is cleaning your hoodie and shorts."
At first, Hijiri Kanna's response is a sour one; "I don't think that'll be necessary," she says, trying desperately to keep her eyes trained anywhere but the three people surrounding her. "After I'm done with my shower, I imagine it'll be straight away into losing this useless lump of flesh on my shoulder, and from there I'll probably be sedated until morning."
Despite her guest's insistence on looking anywhere but at her while she's talking, Oriko continues to stare at Hijiri Kanna, wearing a concerned look on her face as she speaks. "But, thank you for the offer," Hijiri Kanna says, softening her tone. "In any other instance, I might have taken you up on it. I just don't think it'll be necessary here."
Oriko nods her head, and lets out a low "Mhm" for Hijiri Kanna. "If you change your mind, don't hesitate to speak up," she says. "I won't mind."
You'd like to speak with your team about what's happened here tonight. [ ] What needs to be addressed? (write-in)
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All right, as per this part of the vote,
Also, it may not matter all that much, but do keep in mind that Minako and especially the adult Hijiris should probably have a say in things. Nightingale as well, since she's acting in the role of Kanna's primary care physician, but that goes without saying.
We're set to speak with the team after this. Now, I'm asking for that part of the vote to be expanded upon. I'm sure we've all got ideas about what needs to be addressed, and about what we think Kanna's fate should be, so now is the time to let them be known, officially. We can keep this to just the Quintet, or we can give the Saints a holler and get their input as well. Just bear in mind that it's fairly late in the evening, so our meeting might look more like a series of conference calls than an actual physical get-together.
Also, it may not matter all that much, but do keep in mind that Minako and especially the adult Hijiris should probably have a say in things. Nightingale as well, since she's acting in the role of Kanna's primary care physician, but that goes without saying.
PlaguePaladin
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[X] Plan: Conference Call
-[X] Get the Saints and everyone not present into a conference call; grab Minako's opinions as well, and get someone to act as a messenger for the Niko's family.
--[X] First, discuss the new information you've been given; primarily, what happened to Niko's command seals, the blood obrez, and Sidonia's plan to become a Beast and summon a particular Servant of unknown identity. The reason this comes first is to help set in the exact gravity of what the hell Hijiri has done. However, also denote the condition she was in, your deal with her, and what led to that moment.
---[X] Discuss attempting to create some sort of seal to prevent Sidonia from using command seals on Nightingale, or a way to break the connection and force a new kind of contract with her; might need Sakura on the line for this part, since she knows how the system works in the first place and is probably deeply aware of how you might go about this.
--[X] Discuss what you're going to do with Hijiri Kanna.
---[X] Personally vouch for slamming her into the dirt with a geis and using her as a generator of sorts during the battle with Sidonia. Also vouch against killing her, at least for now; not only could there be more information she might not have told you all due to her mental state (she was slathered in grief, after all); and her raw magical capacity could be good help in the upcoming fight; plus you have her by the balls for now, so the chances of her actually doing something bad again, especially if you use a geis on her, are essentially close to zero.
---[X] While it is ultimately up to them what happens to Hijiri, you are not going to let her off without a severe punishment. Her actions have essentially put everyone you know and love into mortal danger.
If we have the free time after this vote carries through, I'll probably try and contact Ilya if I can; we probably need to do that ASAP if we want her to get over here in time, but on the other hand, this vote is bloated enough as-is.
-[X] Get the Saints and everyone not present into a conference call; grab Minako's opinions as well, and get someone to act as a messenger for the Niko's family.
--[X] First, discuss the new information you've been given; primarily, what happened to Niko's command seals, the blood obrez, and Sidonia's plan to become a Beast and summon a particular Servant of unknown identity. The reason this comes first is to help set in the exact gravity of what the hell Hijiri has done. However, also denote the condition she was in, your deal with her, and what led to that moment.
---[X] Discuss attempting to create some sort of seal to prevent Sidonia from using command seals on Nightingale, or a way to break the connection and force a new kind of contract with her; might need Sakura on the line for this part, since she knows how the system works in the first place and is probably deeply aware of how you might go about this.
--[X] Discuss what you're going to do with Hijiri Kanna.
---[X] Personally vouch for slamming her into the dirt with a geis and using her as a generator of sorts during the battle with Sidonia. Also vouch against killing her, at least for now; not only could there be more information she might not have told you all due to her mental state (she was slathered in grief, after all); and her raw magical capacity could be good help in the upcoming fight; plus you have her by the balls for now, so the chances of her actually doing something bad again, especially if you use a geis on her, are essentially close to zero.
---[X] While it is ultimately up to them what happens to Hijiri, you are not going to let her off without a severe punishment. Her actions have essentially put everyone you know and love into mortal danger.
If we have the free time after this vote carries through, I'll probably try and contact Ilya if I can; we probably need to do that ASAP if we want her to get over here in time, but on the other hand, this vote is bloated enough as-is.
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Some of this was already covered in previous discussions we've had with our teams. We already thought Sidonia was angling for a servant based on what Sakura said about Twardowski's Mirror, and Oriko and Bryn gave us the rundown on why they think it's going to be Gudrun. Rin already theorised that Sidonia was planning on summoning a Beast. Kanna's testimony just confirms those two things; the blood obrez is the only 100% new piece of information here.
Unless you're already taking that into account, and this is just a cursory "Yeah, we were right". In which case, totally fine. I just wanted to make.
PlaguePaladin
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Yeah, I just thought we hadn't told this to the Saints yet, so I just wanted to be certain.
Let's discuss first if possible at next discussion about hijiri kana & about sidonia counter measures:
For hijiri kana:
- Give full disclosure about the state of how hijiri kana was found, and what sidonia have done to her
- Give disclosure about what kind of things sidonia have done and plan according to hijiri kana
- Give disclosure about our deal with hijiri kana about her information for warm meal and bath & medical assistance
- Stress that maybe there is something she know about sidonia that she haven't told us because the state she was found
- if possible ask who is in sidonia base beside her and Saber
- Give our thoughts that killing hijiri kana is not morally right and may not give us the satisfaction for it, and further bloodied our hand
About sidonia
- give the people our suspicion about Caster conditions and whereabouts
- Give full disclosure about what we know about Caster capabilities
- Give recap about sidonia that we have known
- if assassin is not present give our suspicion about assassin and ask Sakura and Rin of there is something we can dine about it. Especially ask Sakura to call zolgen and ask if he know any loophole in command seal system that we can exploit
For hijiri kana:
- Give full disclosure about the state of how hijiri kana was found, and what sidonia have done to her
- Give disclosure about what kind of things sidonia have done and plan according to hijiri kana
- Give disclosure about our deal with hijiri kana about her information for warm meal and bath & medical assistance
- Stress that maybe there is something she know about sidonia that she haven't told us because the state she was found
- if possible ask who is in sidonia base beside her and Saber
- Give our thoughts that killing hijiri kana is not morally right and may not give us the satisfaction for it, and further bloodied our hand
About sidonia
- give the people our suspicion about Caster conditions and whereabouts
- Give full disclosure about what we know about Caster capabilities
- Give recap about sidonia that we have known
- if assassin is not present give our suspicion about assassin and ask Sakura and Rin of there is something we can dine about it. Especially ask Sakura to call zolgen and ask if he know any loophole in command seal system that we can exploit
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@PlaguePaladin, just wondering if there's anything from Riku Furude's list that you think needs to be included in your vote.
With the exception of this one,
With the exception of this one,
Because Kanna is either going to be sedated after the surgery or just resting naturally and we won't be able to ask her. But also because, based on the timeline of events, we know who is in Sidonia's workshop (OOC) or can reasonably guess at (IC). We discovered that Kanna had attacked Niko the night before Sidonia openly declared herself to Asunaro, which was the same day that Sidonia decided to force Hans into her servitude after her attempt to swipe the spare Kazumis failed. If Sidonia kicked Kanna out immediately after attaching Niko's arm to her, then Kanna would have been out of Sidonia's workshop before Sidonia called Hans to her side. She would only know about Sigurd and the various familiars Sidonia keeps as her pets, both of which we (IC) already know about.