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Nictis said:
That was my initial guess due to my partner roleplaying as a magic eight ball, but they went silent after Night One.
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So both our pawn partners went completely silent then? In addition this outs freshly subbed IH as the Original Knight. The only thing left in the game is who has been promoted and who has not which atm I'm under the impression should remain that way to protect the King pawn.

Frankly I thought Nictis' was partnered with 99 and 99 simply forgot their QT existed. I know I was intentionally slow responding and acted like I forgot it existed, I wanted to hopefully draw out who was my partner so I could get an idea of if town or scum. Not to mention I tried opening the game up in a safe way but am now suspicious for doing so...Ugh...I'm not scumreading nictis and there's a chance 99 could have been my QT partner just as well or one of us has a silent scum pawn.

In the same vein I think Nictis would have CC my claim if they honestly believed they were -Rosen's QT partner earlier but also that the CC is dumb since we can't confirm either of us being -Rosen's scummate if we're in the same situation. This is bloody frustrating and I blame 99 for this they forgot their Quicktopic completely.
 
*crosses arms*
So, initially/seeing these votes and knowing EoD should be sometime soon, unless I've lost track again, I was thinking 'I want to vote Cyri' but then I thought: Wait, you want to vote him because he's voting you...
Except.
It felt more...Solid then that, for reasons I couldn't recall but felt less like a 'hunch' and more 'I remember him being/doing sus things, but I forgot what.' And I double-checked his posts thinking I'd not find much...
Except, I found something that caught my eye.
Cyricubed said:
2: In the instance that Zae was the normal scum kill being blocked this tells them a knight attack went off on the target, either from town or their own.
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Cyricubed said:
Hmm...See my issue with this is fear of Scum having a watcher and learning info...but here's the thing. If a town member was attacked and they survived for bulletproof or Doctor they know it and scum know it. If scum has watcher they have that info anyway and we don't. What it does give us an idea of is if Zae being RB'd is indicative of anything really.



At least looked at yes....but Rosen has done this exact same thing as town. Example being the mountainous game.



Either Nictis or Meso atm. I need to get back to you on the why
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You've been pushing this idea I got role blocked on Day two. When I ACTIVELY declared I was a pawn, AND got Hugh to confirm it. Which makes the claim, no the INSISTANCE I got roleblocked as very odd. Now, I let it go when you brought it up D3 because hey, the whole 99 typo thing could honestly happen. But this makes at least thrice. And that smells to me of two things: Either you're town and you're sure it's me because I've been shady, OR you've been attempting to build a narrative via filibustering out any other stories of what could have happened to me.
 
Zaealix said:
You've been pushing this idea I got role blocked on Day two. When I ACTIVELY declared I was a pawn, AND got Hugh to confirm it. Which makes the claim, no the INSISTANCE I got roleblocked as very odd. Now, I let it go when you brought it up D3 because hey, the whole 99 typo thing could honestly happen. But this makes at least thrice. And that smells to me of two things: Either you're town and you're sure it's me because I've been shady, OR you've been attempting to build a narrative via filibustering out any other stories of what could have happened to me.
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Or maybe I keep mistaking your name for 99's CONSTANTLY. Cause if you notice in the last fucking misnamed one I also said you got lynched.
 
InterstellarHobo said:
Greetings hello I am now technically present!
Also I have an exam tonight so I am not even going to read through the thread until tomorrow. Sorry for that.

If someone could collate important things to look at sometime before then, it'd be much appreciated.
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It feels like a bit of a dick move but if they are the Knight then they kinda have to go. At least Hobo wouldn't have to catch up in that case?

Blegh. @QTesseract You're here, thoughts?
 
Day ends in two and a half hours right? Or did that get shifted again?
 
Nictis said:
It feels like a bit of a dick move but if they are the Knight then they kinda have to go. At least Hobo wouldn't have to catch up in that case?

Blegh. @QTesseract You're here, thoughts?
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Yeah, if hobo is the knight they have to go. Big risk on my end though is that one of you (probably cyric, since I've been pawn reading you since well before this was gambit territory) decided to take advantage of Hobo being MIA to claim his spot without getting CC'd.
 
Well, considering Shalmoa is sus to, literally nobody else, I'll stop pushing it...for now, but if Im right I will not hesitate to do an Ironic "I told you so" at the end of the game.

[X] NULL
 
Cyricubed said:
Exactly. And I strongly feel voting IH is...a real ass of a move despite strongly believing the slot is scum slot. That being said...

@InterstellarHobo you have been ousted as a knight. Please describe your actions and why.
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Well. My actions, personally, have been to say hi, study, then take an exam.
And now to confirm that yes I am a knight.

My slot's night actions have beeeeeeeeennnnn
one nightkill on Shadell, submitted on Wednesday at 7:48 PM.
The first night seems to have been missed entirely due to irl problems.

The 'why' is something where I'm not sure what you expect of me. I can infer but I don't really have more information than anyone else.
 
Back from nap, let's see.
Cyricubed said:
@Nictis @Usili 2.0 @Shalmoa Same question I gave Meso
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Thoughts on current wagons? I think Zaealix has been pretty sketchy overall, and while I'm inclined to believe his posts about not really knowing what he's doing, I don't think that those posts contradict our current game state much either. I'm still inclined to believe Zaea is more suspicious than Cyri, so in that wagon pairing I'd pick Zaea either way. I am also unfortunately willing to believe that 99L would spontaneously decide to start neglecting the QT starting ironically on N1, which makes me think that Cyri and Nictis could've both gotten into this Pawn claim position legitimately.

I'm not emotionally super happy with starting a wagon for a player who subbed in and has barely even had an opportunity to play yet, but I really don't see scum choosing to not choose the Knight. Next leading suspicion is going to be on Zaealix.

[x] Vote InterstellarHobo
 
I wish we knew for sure if Scia had redirected Night One. The confirmation that the Shadell kill was not from Scia is good...

It's probably bad that I'm starting to get paranoid about Usili. I could see a Queen pick from Scum but I think it's less likely than a Knight or Bishop pick. Rook is higher value later on to murk the King...

Yeah. Knight just has to go, which is unfortunate.

[x] Vote Interstellar Hobo
 
QTesseract said:
I would have let Nemomarx off with just your screenname, but I do really appreciate this reveal from you and the confirmation from the other.
[X] Null NemoMarx

King: QTesseract
Queen: mesonoxian
Rook 1: Hailcapital
Rook 2: Usili 2.0
Bishop 1: Shadell
Bishop 2: Shalmoa
Knight 1: Scia
Knight 2: ???
Pawn Group 1: -Rosen, Cyricubed
Pawn Group 2: Hugh, Zaealix
Pawn Group 3: 99Lies, ???
Pawn Group 4: NemoMarx, Projject_Delta

That leaves either Nictis or InterstellarHobo as 99lies' partner, but unfort 99lies is dead and thus can't confirm. Unless @Nictis or @InterstellarHobo wants to counterclaim cyricubed?
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Okay, so that'd place the pawn teams as -Rosen+Cyric, Hugh+Zaealix, 99L+Nictis (if IH is Knight), and NemoMarx+Delta.

Assuming one knight and three pawn setup, that means Cyric would be clear, with Zaealix, Nictis, Nemo, and Delta as question marks in this for who is scum and who isn't. Of course, there is kind of a question if IH is town... which means that Zaealix and Nictis are scum, with either Nemo or Delta as scum.
 
Is the argument here... actually based on assumptions about what scum would do?
I presume I'm missing something here, and there's more to it than 'of course scum took a knight'
 
Hmm. @Nictis , you believe in 3 scum pawn setup. If so, that means 2 of <Zae, Cyric, (Nemo/Delta)> are scum. If you had to pick, which two would you say it is?
 
@Terrabrand so there's the impression that day ends in 1hr 45 mins, but most recent informational puts it at 45 mins. I presume daylight savings is to blame- which time is correct?
 
QTesseract said:
Hmm. @Nictis , you believe in 3 scum pawn setup. If so, that means 2 of <Zae, Cyric, (Nemo/Delta)> are scum. If you had to pick, which two would you say it is?
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Zaealix and Delta most likely. Zaealix is a semi-safe bet, Nemo I haven't really been feeling as particularly scummy but could be, Delta I don't know. Could be that Cyric is 99's partner and just pulled a good lie out for safety, but I can't actually rule that one way or the other. I haven't actually reviewed the later days.
 
[X] Vote InterstellarHobo

I hate that this feels like the right vote on principle. This also makes me more certain Usili and Meso are town as I believe Scia would have mentioned attacking Usili2.0
 
QTesseract said:
King: QTesseract
Queen: mesonoxian
Rook 1: Hailcapital
Rook 2: Usili 2.0
Bishop 1: Shadell
Bishop 2: Shalmoa
Knight 1: Scia
Knight 2: ???
Pawn Group 1: -Rosen, Cyricubed
Pawn Group 2: Hugh, Zaealix
Pawn Group 3: 99Lies, ???
Pawn Group 4: NemoMarx, Projject_Delta
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Just checking, but with IH outed all these roles are mechanically solved, right?
 
I'm in the unenviable position where I need to argue about scum picks, without actually having the information to know which are ruled out. I can be quite sure, however, that they didn't start with a knight. Time is tight so I'll post this then properly verify what's plausible and who it implicates.

Best guess at strategy would be taking both knight pawns and a Rook to identify the starting knights; in theory gets you two cop immune knights.
A lot of these do seem suboptimal, but that's it's own value when pawns can pretty freely confirm half the roles in the game.

Rook + 2 Knight pawns + Queen pawn
Rook to ID Knights or queens p quickly, kill found knight or queen. Rook over knight means you don't have to wait for allied knight to die.

Bishop + Rook + 2 Knight pawns
Rook to ID Knights, kill found knight, nightkills with bishop to sow confusion.

Queen + Rook + 2 Knight pawns
Implies Scia redirected and didn't claim it, which is a bit odd. Otherwise as 1 but with more kill.


With cyric moving their vote onto me though, I've only got one choice for self-pres atm. I'll need to cross
[X] Vote Cyricubed
 
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