CHESS MAFIA 2

*Coughs* Wine if your scum is my answer to that.
...Fair enough. I could have considered the answer of 'it's a typo', though sometimes I feel like I say one thing and you guys hear another entirely.
Like.
I'm thinking Scum spouting theories that SOUND good but are not actually valid is a major reason why misunderstanding things is a really bad look, period. So my screw-ups and now-consistant pattern of such makes me perma-sus. It's not about me being suspicious in any one thing I say, it's about that consistant record of not getting things RIGHT makes me look shady on a meta-level.
It's one thing to not actively pressure newbs, it's another thing to ignore it when they dangle a nice juicy steak in front of you.
But the OTHER problem, is I'm thinking about it, and it feels like Scum would LOVE a Lynch via going by the numbers, because then they can rig the numbers. Cross that with the minimum post limit and a noted problem with understanding/following the situation...?

Well, my fustrations aside...This game has been a clear back-slide for me in terms of skill displayed, if only because I keep coming up with plans in the moment instead of taking the time to think things through. Maybe that Nictis slayer-me thing came at an unfortunate time and now I've got to go back to the drawing board. Though maybe I just need a thousand games where I'm town and continue to make gaffes like this so people just consider that the 'Zae handicap' which is shameful but if the shoe fits...

As for 180s, unfortunately I am prone to that unless I have clear evidence. I try not to commit to gut-reads. Maybe that's the wrong way to think about this. Maybe maybe maybe I'm just in over my head.

And incidentally, let me make the subtext clear: You've got some points. Part of WHY I pointed at you in the first place was thinking through the whole Town dialouge- If I'm not smelling Scum Slips from anyone in particular I tend to think that quiet Scum waiting for an opportune moment/Town mislynch parties is the play being made. That's how I think about things. If no-one feels decidedly scummy, it's probably a lurking Scum.
 
People are being way too quiet for my comfort.

@mesonoxian what are your current thoughts on the two wagons? Is there someone else you think is a better option for lynch today.
@QTesseract I believe Zae is an overall smarter lynch given resources available mean you shouldn't be kill-able this night without scum overplaying their hand just for you meanwhile you could check someone within the unknown pile to seek for the knight or get a confirmation on one of our 3 open claims. Thoughts?
@Nictis @Usili 2.0 @Shalmoa Same question I gave Meso

@NemoMarx Pick one person from the unknown claim pile you think is scum and why please.
 
People are being way too quiet for my comfort.

@mesonoxian what are your current thoughts on the two wagons? Is there someone else you think is a better option for lynch today.
@QTesseract I believe Zae is an overall smarter lynch given resources available mean you shouldn't be kill-able this night without scum overplaying their hand just for you meanwhile you could check someone within the unknown pile to seek for the knight or get a confirmation on one of our 3 open claims. Thoughts?
@Nictis @Usili 2.0 @Shalmoa Same question I gave Meso

@NemoMarx Pick one person from the unknown claim pile you think is scum and why please.
Just got home from work/transporting gardening supplies. I'm going to be a little while before I am caught up.
 
Zaelix is definitely playing weird, but I don't get why Rosen would basically openly pocket another scum member. I guess that's winey though? Maybe my reaction could be an intended thing?

I think, since QT's weirdness has an explanation, I now have to sus quiet people and Project stands out the most that way. Very quiet, even after prompting and things.
 
People are being way too quiet for my comfort.

@mesonoxian what are your current thoughts on the two wagons? Is there someone else you think is a better option for lynch today.
@QTesseract I believe Zae is an overall smarter lynch given resources available mean you shouldn't be kill-able this night without scum overplaying their hand just for you meanwhile you could check someone within the unknown pile to seek for the knight or get a confirmation on one of our 3 open claims. Thoughts?
@Nictis @Usili 2.0 @Shalmoa Same question I gave Meso

@NemoMarx Pick one person from the unknown claim pile you think is scum and why please.
... Just to clarify, by the 'two' wagons, whom are you referring to outside of Zaealix?
 
People are being way too quiet for my comfort.

@mesonoxian what are your current thoughts on the two wagons? Is there someone else you think is a better option for lynch today.
@QTesseract I believe Zae is an overall smarter lynch given resources available mean you shouldn't be kill-able this night without scum overplaying their hand just for you meanwhile you could check someone within the unknown pile to seek for the knight or get a confirmation on one of our 3 open claims. Thoughts?
@Nictis @Usili 2.0 @Shalmoa Same question I gave Meso

@NemoMarx Pick one person from the unknown claim pile you think is scum and why please.
By the two wagons do you mean you and @Zaealix ? Because of the two, I am a lot more sold on Zaealix being scum than you right now.

QTess was my other scum read. Not so much anymore.

Nictis remains an enigma.

I don't see a lot of grounds to suspect Shalmoa.

@Projject_Delta is definitely suspicious. But it is hard to say how much that is new player stuff, and how much is scuminess.

Hobo just subbed in and I had no read on his role.
 
So none of the other votes at EoD2 struck you as odd by that same criteria? Just mine?

Sorry for the delay, it was actually my first day at an new job and If I didn't get SOME sleep I was gonna hate myself.

The reason yours struck out is simply just, HOW you did it. It was an last minute vote that had hardly any context behind it, and if it was truly about him bouncing around to much, then why wasn't Nictis also Sused, they were bouncing around an good bit near the end to.

It just feels like you were jumping on an train to blend in.
 
Sorry for the delay, it was actually my first day at an new job and If I didn't get SOME sleep I was gonna hate myself.

The reason yours struck out is simply just, HOW you did it. It was an last minute vote that had hardly any context behind it, and if it was truly about him bouncing around to much, then why wasn't Nictis also Sused, they were bouncing around an good bit near the end to.

It just feels like you were jumping on an train to blend in.
Real life always comes before mafia. You gotta take care of yourself.
 
King: @QTesseract
Queen: @mesonoxian
Rook 1: Hailcapital
Rook 2: @Usili 2.0
Bishop 1: Shadell
Bishop 2: @Shalmoa
Knight 1: Scia
Knight 2: ???
Pawn Group 1: -Rosen, @Cyricubed
Pawn Group 2: Hugh, @Zaealix
Pawn Group 3: 99Lies, ???
Pawn Group 4: ???, ???

For the four remaining slots, we have @NemoMarx , @Projject_Delta , @Nictis , and @InterstellarHobo

In a 3 Pawn world, 3 of Nemo, Delta, Nictis, Hobo, and Zaelix are scum. In a 2 pawn world, 3 of Shalmoa, Nemo, Delta, Nictis, Hobo, and Zae are scum. Zae lynch isn't terrible, but he's already claimed his grouping, so I'm going to pick someone else. @NemoMarx who is in your pawn quicktopic? If they have not shared their ingame name, please lmk their alias and what alias you are using, and I will take my lynch off.

[X] Vote Nemomarx


Also obviously to anyone tagged, if you have evidence cyric is lying about their claim and are thus not conf town, such as by you being in the pawn quicktopic with -Rosen, please let me know.
 
King: @QTesseract
Queen: @mesonoxian
Rook 1: Hailcapital
Rook 2: @Usili 2.0
Bishop 1: Shadell
Bishop 2: @Shalmoa
Knight 1: Scia
Knight 2: ???
Pawn Group 1: -Rosen, @Cyricubed
Pawn Group 2: Hugh, @Zaealix
Pawn Group 3: 99Lies, ???
Pawn Group 4: ???, ???

For the four remaining slots, we have @NemoMarx , @Projject_Delta , @Nictis , and @InterstellarHobo

In a 3 Pawn world, 3 of Nemo, Delta, Nictis, Hobo, and Zaelix are scum. In a 2 pawn world, 3 of Shalmoa, Nemo, Delta, Nictis, Hobo, and Zae are scum. Zae lynch isn't terrible, but he's already claimed his grouping, so I'm going to pick someone else. @NemoMarx who is in your pawn quicktopic? If they have not shared their ingame name, please lmk their alias and what alias you are using, and I will take my lynch off.

[X] Vote Nemomarx


Also obviously to anyone tagged, if you have evidence cyric is lying about their claim and are thus not conf town, such as by you being in the pawn quicktopic with -Rosen, please let me know.

Hey...uh, because I don't Nemo Marx to die because this entire time I HAVEN'T revealed to them who I am in the Quicktopic, just going by "A Pawn", you can never be to Careful.

I'm there Quicktopic.
 
Ah, this is embarassing, but....

As @Projject_Delta can attest, I didn't know how to use the quick topic very well, and I accidentally just used NemoMarx for my first message. (Also I think my real name at least once because there's some confusing email reply thing but I can't configure it for names which makes it kind of awkward.)

Does that satisfy, @QTesseract ?
 
Or there's an email thread thing but it also mirrors what you send so it's confusing. I thought it would help me actually keep up with the QT more though, so it wasn't a bad idea to try, but I wish they had a more sensible system.
 
Hey...uh, because I don't Nemo Marx to die because this entire time I HAVEN'T revealed to them who I am in the Quicktopic, just going by "A Pawn", you can never be to Careful.

I'm there Quicktopic.
Ah, this is embarassing, but....

As @Projject_Delta can attest, I didn't know how to use the quick topic very well, and I accidentally just used NemoMarx for my first message. (Also I think my real name at least once because there's some confusing email reply thing but I can't configure it for names which makes it kind of awkward.)

Does that satisfy, @QTesseract ?
I would have let Nemomarx off with just your screenname, but I do really appreciate this reveal from you and the confirmation from the other.
[X] Null NemoMarx

King: QTesseract
Queen: mesonoxian
Rook 1: Hailcapital
Rook 2: Usili 2.0
Bishop 1: Shadell
Bishop 2: Shalmoa
Knight 1: Scia
Knight 2: ???
Pawn Group 1: -Rosen, Cyricubed
Pawn Group 2: Hugh, Zaealix
Pawn Group 3: 99Lies, ???
Pawn Group 4: NemoMarx, Projject_Delta

That leaves either Nictis or InterstellarHobo as 99lies' partner, but unfort 99lies is dead and thus can't confirm. Unless @Nictis or @InterstellarHobo wants to counterclaim cyricubed?
 
Pawn Group 1: -Rosen, @Cyricubed
*twitches*
So, one of the big reasons why I felt a lot more confident in my scum read on you was that you seemed to know that I was a Pawn, when I had never actually claimed Pawn in thread but Rosen probably could have figured out I was Pawn due to me getting rather irritated at my quick topic partner deciding to go silent.
 
I apparently missed something. When did Cyri claim Rosen's Pawn?
 
I apparently missed something. When did Cyri claim Rosen's Pawn?

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Fine. I'm not the knight. I am a pawn originally. I can say this though with certainty. I was rosen's pawn partner, as my QT has been completely silent since N1. Basically when -Rosen died the QT went quiet.

I did comment then on how you also claimed it but then nothing really came of that.

(Sorry for the ping Cyric)
 
Anyways. Seems like nobody wants to chime in on whether or not I should reveal, and with you having already revealed I doubt I'm getting much out of the question now. I am a Pawn. Notably, I am the Pawn that was in Rosen's Quick Topic.
Fine. I'm not the knight. I am a pawn originally. I can say this though with certainty. I was rosen's pawn partner, as my QT has been completely silent since N1. Basically when -Rosen died the QT went quiet.
Nictis claimed that too, right?
[x] Vote Cyricubed

Either Cyricubed is lying here to avoid trouble... Or one of the other Pawns decided to go silent after Rosen died in hopes of getting a Pawn to reveal and narrow the field. So right now I'm looking at either Cyri or Nemo on this. Most likely Cyri though.
 
gah, I can't read. This headache is killing me. Nevermind on Nemo then, but Cyri dies here.
 
*twitches*
So, one of the big reasons why I felt a lot more confident in my scum read on you was that you seemed to know that I was a Pawn, when I had never actually claimed Pawn in thread but Rosen probably could have figured out I was Pawn due to me getting rather irritated at my quick topic partner deciding to go silent.
No, you were right about me thinking you were a pawn and diagnosing that that was what
I'm pretty sure the reason for that is [redacted]. Come back to me in a few days when it becomes relevant.
Was about. I had just come to believe you were 99lies' partner. Is that definitely not the case?
 
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