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Archduke said:
Hey what's the status on Coastguard Cutters and other such ships? Are they considered too small, or are they just off-limits? Because I have a stupid idea involving one of them looking like Jane for shenanigans.
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Always Late said:
Too small, no mass-produced ships get souls.
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Uh, where did you get that idea?
Archduke said:
I was thinking of the Treasury class, which are longer than a DE. They served for 40+ years, and had 7 ships in the class. They were taken into the navy during WWII as escorts, and USCG Ingham is the only ship still afloat that has sunk a U-Boat. Nice museum too.
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I've done some Coast Guard omakes actually:
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/5012248/
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/posts/7678298/
 
Okay, so I was reading about USCGC Campbell. After her decommissioning, she was used as a missile target, but before she sank, one last message was sent from her.

"UNCLAS //N05752//
SUBJ: FINAL FAREWELL
1. I SERVED WITH HONOR FOR ALMOST FORTY-SIX YEARS, IN WAR AND PEACE, IN THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC. WITH DUTY AS DIVERSE AS SAVING LIVES TO SINKING U-BOATS, OCEAN STATIONS TO FISHERIES ENFORCEMENT, AND FROM TRAINING CADETS TO BEING YOUR FLAGSHIP. I HAVE BEEN ALWAYS READ TO SERVE.
2. TODAY WAS MY FINAL DUTY. I WAS A TARGET FOR A MISSILE TEST. ITS SUCCESS WAS YOUR LOSS AND MY DEMISE. NOW KING NEPTUNE HAS CALLED ME TO MY FINAL REST IN 2,600 FATHOMS AT 22-48N 160-06W.
3. MOURN NOT, ALL WHO HAVE SAILED WITH ME. A NEW CUTTER CAMPBELL BEARING MY NAME, WMEC-909, WILL SOON CONTINUE THE HERITAGE. I BID ADIEU. THE QUEEN IS DEAD. LONG LIVE THE QUEEN."

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U.S. Coast Guard Cutter History
 
DrexelDragonz said:
Got inspired when i saw @B-baka! drawing of Penpen *cough* don't shoot me *cough*....well....i'll stick to Chibi. Should've never gone hiatus on drawing, I'm getting rusty.
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I approve of this wholeheartedly! :D
theJMPer said:
"Repairship Vestal," The ancient auxiliary sounded even grouchier than usual over the tinny speakers of Jersey's phone. "If you're drunk it's your own damn fault."
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If I ever went into the medical field, I'd have this as my default answer all the damn time.
theJMPer said:
Vestal's response was to howl with laughter for thirty consecutive minutes and then hang up.
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She's not the only one! XD
theJMPer said:
"Thank you," said Kirishima. "She… um… falls in love with the magician."
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Not sure if loveship or friendship.
*Frystare*

Great chapter! Though the bits with Alaska nearl killed me. I'm getting too old and curmudgeony for this to be healthy.
7734 said:
One. Two, tops. Remember, these are ships from the era of (Speed/Guns/Armor) Choose Two. The 12-gun Standards and Nagato are peer ships, and got far better upgrades later in life as well.
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Arizona: Should we put that to the test?
Mutsu: My~ Someone's in a feisty mood.
Hiei: *eats popcorn*
 
Hey @Old Iron, what would Cassin and Downes seriously look like? I'm planning on drawing them (been busy cause school started) but I thought that you would have a better character description. And I would just draw. Any ideas?
 
I haven't really made any plans regarding them, so they don't have anything resembling a design laid out at this point. Mostly been trying to get through this writer's block. =/
 
Sir_Gaea said:
Quick question, since there are some rather knowledgeable people in this thread.

How many US Standards would it take to defeat either Nagato or Mutsu? (Consider the Japanese ships needing to stay local for some reason, so now sailing away faster then the Standards can follow.) I'm asking because the more I learn about the Standards the more I learn about them the more I think of them as either a girl gang or a group of serial killers slowly coming after you, with nothing being able to slow them down, let alone stopping them.
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The real question is one of immune zones and armor protection. The Nagatos aren't full-out battlecruisers, they have armor that is at least relevant against 14" shellfire although (as I recall) unsatisfactory against 16." Note that only the Colorado-class, the last of the Standards, mounts 16" guns.

On the other hand, the Nagatos themselves have 16" guns, which are definitely capable of breaching the Standards' armor scheme at a variety of different combat ranges, and they have the speed to control the range at which battle is fought.

I'm too close to bedtime to go looking up actual armor thicknesses and work out immune zones, but basically what it comes down to is that the Nagatos are 32000-ton battleships of roughly the same design vintage as the later Standards, and can be expected to perform roughly as well. The edge in armor protection doesn't necessarily cancel out the advantage of a few extra knots of speed in controlling the range, but the reverse is also true.
 
So, I started working on the armor layouts for Simon, until I got to the Colorados, and realized how damned long that would be, if I included all the perfectly accurate numbers for every ship. It would be long even with a spoiler. I did learn a lot about the ships themselves, though. Poor BB-47. Another stillborn, because of the WNT. She would have been Washington.

New Mexico, which is my favorite (what bias?) rescued several sailors from a floundering schooner on February 22, 1919, then used the schooner for gunnery practice. She also had the first Turbo Electric Drive.

USS Maryland, of the Colorados, would be a showgirl, potentially our 'Jersey-dress wearer.' She appeared at many important functions, such as the 1922 Naval Academy graduation.

USS California won the Navy Department General Excellency Trophy for Capital Ships of the Pacific Fleet Award, or the 'Iron Man Award' four times in a row. The final time was a close race between her and, guess who. New Mexico.

USS Pennsylvania was one of 14 ships to receive early RADAR, the CXAM-1, in 1940. Arizona did not.(Sibling rivalry?:V)

Speaking of Arizona, if you really wanna stretch the definition, Ari got to fire on the Japanese with her main guns. Her guns from Turret II, after repair and relining, were installed on the Nevada in 1944, and promptly used to shell land emplacements on Okinawa and Iwo Jima.
 
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The Nagato class at flank Stock original configuration had a top speed of 26 to 27 knots.
Standards though were at an Speed and range disadvantage, not a large one but with the Speed edge on Nagato's side.
It very much wouldn't have been pretty.
 
wildredlifer said:
The Nagato class at flank Stock original configuration had a top speed of 26 to 27 knots.
Standards though were at an Speed and range disadvantage, not a large one but with the Speed edge on Nagato's side.
It very much wouldn't have been pretty.
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The Colorado class was at no significant range disadvantage.

If the Nagato wants a realistic chance of hitting the Colorado, it's going to have to come into range, and Colorado has as many guns, and though the AP Mark 5 is slightly lighter than the Type 91(9 pounds), the Mark 5 has superior penetration, according to the USN Empirical Armor Penetration Formula.

Why? Not sure, but Navweaps does good math. I'm willing to trust them.
 
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