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Understandable, considering their stack arrangement looked quite similar. Akizukis were only 15 feet shorter than Yubari, too (440 feet compared to Yubari's 455). They were the largest Axis destroyers, but were the third-largest WWII destroyers in terms of size, being edged out by the Soviet Tashkent (458 feet) and France's Mogadors (451). Here's how the seven major nations stack up:

1) SOVIET UNION (Tashkent (458 feet))
2) FRANCE (Mogador (451 feet))
3) JAPAN (Akizuki (440 feet))
4) GERMANY (Type 1936A (416 feet))
5) ITALY (Medaglie d'Oro (396 feet))
6) UNITED STATES (Gearing (390 feet))
7) BRITAIN (Battle (379 feet))
 
Spectre said:
seriously those things are firefighter proof... did they take it into battle?
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They're also lava proof as one was put into lava and the video survived.
ijnfleetadmiral said:
Understandable, considering their stack arrangement looked quite similar. Akizukis were only 15 feet shorter than Yubari, too (440 feet compared to Yubari's 455). They were the largest Axis destroyers, but were the third-largest WWII destroyers in terms of size, being edged out by the Soviet Tashkent (458 feet) and France's Mogadors (451). Here's how the seven major nations stack up:

1) SOVIET UNION (Tashkent (458 feet))
2) FRANCE (Mogador (451 feet))
3) JAPAN (Akizuki (440 feet))
4) GERMANY (Type 1936A (416 feet))
5) ITALY (Medaglie d'Oro (396 feet))
6) UNITED STATES (Gearing (390 feet))
7) BRITAIN (Battle (379 feet))
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8) BRITAIN/CANADA/AUSTRALIA (Tribal, 1936 (377 feet))*

The Tribals were based off a Light Cruiser design... which had one turret taken away and declared a Destroyer.
 
All the talk of destroyer sizes, it occurred to me that Arizona would've never seen destroyers as big as a Burke. She and Pennsy might have commented on that when they went after the island princess.

Briefing officer: (pointing to the Burkes that Ari will be sailing with) You will be escorted by those destroyers.

Ari: Which Destroyers?

Officer: Those destroyers.

Ari: Are the destroyers on the other side of those light cruisers?

Officer: (smiles) Sorry, ma'am. Those are Arliegh Burke class destroyers.

Ari: (looks at officer, looks at Pennsy) Those are what they call destroyers now.

Pennsy: (low whistle) Big for American destroyers. Guess if they had cruisers, they'd be as big as Commander Jersey.

Officer: We do have cruisers, Lieutenant. There's a Ticonderoga class at that pier over there.

Pennsy: nothing over there but another destroyer, a bit bigger.

Officer: They actually were classed that way originally, but then we just decided to call them cruisers, to catch up with the Russians.

Pennsy: Huh. Well, I guess I'll just decide to call myself a mongoose. (Walks into water) Lets get this show on the road before I have to listen to anymore of this insanity. God, how I hate the 21st century.
 
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Rancher_357 said:
All the talk of destroyer sizes, it occurred to me that Arizona would've never seen destroyers as big as a Burke. She and Pennsy might have commented on that when they went after the island princess.

Briefing officer: (pointing to the Burkes that Ari will be sailing with) You will be escorted by those destroyers.

Ari: Which Destroyers?

Officer: Those destroyers.

Ari: Are the destroyers on the other side of those light cruisers?

Officer: (smiles) Sorry, ma'am. Those are Arliegh Burke class destroyers.

Ari: (looks at officer, looks at Pennsy) Those are what they call destroyers now.

Pennsy: (low whistle) Big for American destroyers. Guess if they had cruisers, they'd be as big as Commander Jersey.

Officer: We do have cruisers, Lieutenant. There's a Ticonderoga class at that pier over there.

Pennsy: nothing over there but another destroyer, a bit bigger.

Officer: They actually were classed that way originally, but then we just decided to call them cruisers, to catch up with the Russians.

Pennsy: Huh. Well, I guess I'll just decide to call myself a mongoose. (Walks into water) Lets get this show on the road before I have to listen to anymore of this insanity. God, how I hate the 21st century.
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so says the anto-fowling red silk wearing, pride rage, momma boat. Modern cruisers wallow like stuck pigs. ww2 era maindeck and below, new super strucker on top where all the radars are located. so its a top heavy son of a bitch. i should know. been on one for four years.
 
BigBadBen said:
so says the anto-fowling red silk wearing, pride rage, momma boat. Modern cruisers wallow like stuck pigs. ww2 era maindeck and below, new super strucker on top where all the radars are located. so its a top heavy son of a bitch. i should know. been on one for four years.
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That's what I've heard. Tried to stuff too much onto a Spruance hull.
 
BigBadBen said:
just like the ffg (x) design. 950 mil per ship stuffing the potential to do 15 extra things it isnt needed to do. spend an extra 300 million, get a Burke Class destroyer instead.
you would think the navy would learn after the zumwalt fiasco fuck up.
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Steel is cheap, systems are expensive, and the Zumwalts were the victim of being overtaken by technical events and the Navy changing its posture and the buy being cut to 3 ships and thus having all the costs amortised over 3 ships instead of 32.

900 million is about what a legit FFG would cost because of the systems used (not!Aegis, GaN AESA radar), and it's half the cost of a Burke, which is 1.8 billion in today's dollars. It gives you a step up in options, because otherwise your only options are a corvette (LCS) or srsface AAW DDG (Burke), and quite frankly Burkes are wasted on being used for Frigate things. The Eurofrigates have cheaper quoted prices yes, but that's because the Eurofrigates don't add in the costs of things like weapons, sensors, etc, while the US pricing is the whole package.

And let's face it, people tried to make a low key ship to do low key things (LCS) and the last decade the internets and the media have been whining on how LCS can't fight off the entire chinese navy by itself. At least FFG(X), if designed properly, can complement a Burke - EASR is supposed as capable as the SPY-1D radar on DDGs, and since the Navy plans to put EASR on everything the expectation is that mass production should drive costs down.
 
Kongo might appreciate the gift card, though...Teitoku will get ideas if she picks the right outfit. And if John gave one to Mutsu it might win him some brownie points. :)

And for a laugh, why not have Iku show Arizona the Adam & Eve website, videoing her reaction. :D

*Arizona bursts into John's office and kneels down in front of Mutsu's stomach*
Arizona: If either or both of you are girls, I swear upon my status as a member of the Big Seven I will do everything in my power to shield you from the evils that objectify women! You must never learn of this...Adam & Eve! Never!"
*Runs out of the office; Mutsu is left giggling and Richardson has a 'dafuq?' expression on his face.*
:D
 
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