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Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST]

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Thorthemighty said:
It's a fair suggestion, Liberty Ships, their larger cousins the Victory Ships ought to know a thing or two about logistics since they are cargo ships after all. Because everything has to go in a certain place on a ship to balance the load and get the most cargo in as well.
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Because NAVSUP's land based loggies and all the longshoremen magically disappeared?

Old Iron said:
Goto: You have how much leave saved up?
Oyoodo: Sir, I will still be relaxing on the beach when you and Kongou see your first set of great-grandchildren.
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Goto: is now a bad time to mention use or lose rules?
 
Thorthemighty said:
While I do agree with that. During a Sinkex we scuttled the USS Thach however, this ship which isn't all that tough supposedly, ate at least four Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles, which has a bigger warhead than an Exocet by about 100 pounds of high explosive, a 500 pound bomb, a 2000 pound bomb, numerous Hellfire Missiles, a Maverick Missile, and a Mark 48 Torpedo. She still took over 12 hours to sink afterward. So I would say otherwise. However those first hits would have mission-killed her, but she took an incredible pounding before sinking. They are rather durable ships, if the SinkEx that occurred in 2016 is anything to go on.
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Decommissioned ships involved in a sinkex are not running, do not have their engines turned on, and are not fueled. There's no live power running. Most of the flammable shit has been removed as part of the decommissioning. Which means that fires are harder to start, and if none of the hits cause flooding then the ship can stay afloat for a time. It would have started sinking quite fast after being hit by the ADCAP, as we see historically.

You can, of course, provide sources for the ordnance used that you claim above, yes?

What you forget, Thor, is this: It doesn't matter how much of a pounding you can take if the first hit takes you out of the fight. You're just as blind and deaf and combat ineffective.
 
I actually imagine that Oh!Yodo will eventually develop a kind of Stockholm's syndrome to logistics and will start to play Eve Online after the war is over.
 
She places requisitions orders while going shopping, and hands them to a very confused cashier along with the money.
 
She clears all her paperwork and stares happily at her empty desk.

Then she wakes up and realises that she's at work and her desk is full.

Or she's on holiday with her lover and as they sleep the sleep of the happy and satisfied... She starts dictating mission orders.
 
In the far future of spaceshipgirls, Oh!Yodo is the owner of the most successful interplanetary transport and logistics company in the Solar System. In fact, Hibiki is employed as a trucker by the Martian branch.
 
Red october20k said:
I can recall an instance where a liberty ship sank a German commerce raider in a gun duel.
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Indeed, the commerce raider Stier, was scuttled due to being unable to maintain steerage way after an engagement with SS Stephen Hopkins. Unfortunately the Hopkins was sunk as well and while most of the crew of the Stier survived and were rescued by the accompanying logistics ship, only 15 survivors of the Hopkins reached Brazil.

Considering the sheer disparity in firepower, the Hopkins/Stier duel rates up there with several of the more well-known naval battles. Stier had 6 5.9" guns, Hopkins had 1 4" gun, Stier had torpedoes and a pretty decent secondary armament, Hopkins had 2 obsolete 37mm AA guns and a few machine guns. Honestly, SS Stephen Hopkins is the one Liberty ship that I think has a distinguished enough record *as a fighting ship* to come back as a ship girl regardless.
 
LordSunhawk said:
Indeed, the commerce raider Stier, was scuttled due to being unable to maintain steerage way after an engagement with SS Stephen Hopkins. Unfortunately the Hopkins was sunk as well and while most of the crew of the Stier survived and were rescued by the accompanying logistics ship, only 15 survivors of the Hopkins reached Brazil.

Considering the sheer disparity in firepower, the Hopkins/Stier duel rates up there with several of the more well-known naval battles. Stier had 6 5.9" guns, Hopkins had 1 4" gun, Stier had torpedoes and a pretty decent secondary armament, Hopkins had 2 obsolete 37mm AA guns and a few machine guns. Honestly, SS Stephen Hopkins is the one Liberty ship that I think has a distinguished enough record *as a fighting ship* to come back as a ship girl regardless.
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Well, hot damn! That is very impressive! Although, probably the most famous of David vs. Goliath during the Battle of the Atlantic was HMS Jervis Bay vs. KMS Admiral Scheer. An Armed Merchant Cruiser Vs. A Pocket Battleship.

glitchrrr36 said:
Golden BB. You hit just right, everything goes boom
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True that. *Looks at HMS Invincible, HMS Indefatigable, HMS Queen Mary, HMS Hood, and USS Arizona* still either way. That is certainly impressive.
 
Thorthemighty said:
Well, hot damn! That is very impressive! Although, probably the most famous of David vs. Goliath during the Battle of the Atlantic was HMS Jervis Bay vs. KMS Admiral Scheer. An Armed Merchant Cruiser Vs. A Pocket Battleship.
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I'll do you one better...

The Ijora (a 2000 ton steamer) Vs. ... Tirpitz and it's entire Battlegroup. Said ship only had a 37mm gun and at seeing the warships, rather then surrender, began to transmit the position of the Germans and started to fire on them. It sank with all hands, but it was able to warn the convoys in the area about the Germans.
 
Thorthemighty said:
Well, hot damn! That is very impressive! Although, probably the most famous of David vs. Goliath during the Battle of the Atlantic was HMS Jervis Bay vs. KMS Admiral Scheer. An Armed Merchant Cruiser Vs. A Pocket Battleship.



True that. *Looks at HMS Invincible, HMS Indefatigable, HMS Queen Mary, HMS Hood, and USS Arizona* still either way. That is certainly impressive.
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eh, Pocket Battleships were only battleships in name.
 
Harry Leferts said:
I'll do you one better...

The Ijora (a 2000 ton steamer) Vs. ... Tirpitz and it's entire Battlegroup. Said ship only had a 37mm gun and at seeing the warships, rather then surrender, began to transmit the position of the Germans and started to fire on them. It sank with all hands, but it was able to warn the convoys in the area about the Germans.
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And what about Samar? White vs heavy cruiser. White wins by naval gunfire.
 
Interested Party said:
White has also already been summoned as a kanmusu as it is. Slightly different cases, there.
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If anything the case of the HMS Jervis Bay is certainly one of the Bolivian Army Ending where she comes out all guns blazing, but you just know she can't win. No matter how you spin it, she was just a liner that had been converted into a warship and she had to fight a true warship.
 
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