Icywinter
50% ice, 50% winter
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Yavuz would definitely be the best for Pringles here. The lass is making friends, yes, but you can't go wrong with momboating.
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Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST]
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Whiskey Golf
Being of Editing & Technical Assistance
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- Chained to my desk
On one hand, yes they can drop air mines, because those are essentially modified GP bombs. On the other hand they won't be very effective at it because you need to train for dropping air mines, and if you drop them wrong, your mines go all over the place. It's like dropping dumb bombs, but worse. And you can't really be going to fast when you drop because dispersion is a bitch.
So because of that, the US has now basically made JDAM air mines.
And now any aircraft can be an aerial minelayer.
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- Mid-Atlantic
It IS the next century.
Agreed!
[Camp bounces up and down insisting she's got more time in commission; Yavuz gives her a Look that says, in a telepathic-telegraphic flash, "YOU ARE UTTERLY UNMOMBOATLY." Camp sits down meekly and cuddles her pet Swift Boat.]
That would be interesting, but there's not much point. They don't have ship-killing abilities, and they're significantly slower and smaller than modern cargo ships.
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They don't have ship killing capabilites yes. However, how many Liberty ships did we build? The same goes for Victory Ships and T2 Tankers. While they can't carry as much, we did build a lot of them. Besides even if they can't sail, we can have them helping the Logistics department side of things.
Annd we may have just lost Winter...heh.
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Oh, hey. Did you read my earlier post addressed specifically to you at the top of the last page?
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It's a fair suggestion, Liberty Ships, their larger cousins the Victory Ships ought to know a thing or two about logistics since they are cargo ships after all. Because everything has to go in a certain place on a ship to balance the load and get the most cargo in as well. They could help in other ways. There is a part to war that no one really talks about, it's the Unsung Hero of any war effort. The Logistics Corps.
Whiskey Golf
Being of Editing & Technical Assistance
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USS Stark and USS Samuel B. Roberts say otherwise. An aluminium superstructure is not a good idea because aluminium burns a lot better and easier than steel. Note how Stark was mission killed by an Exocet hit.
The Perrys are pretty much shit. They don't have the one armed bandit so they can't toss ASROCs at anyone, the USN ditched the matchbox ASROC launcher when VL ASROC became a thing so you can't retrofit ASROC onto a Perry's foredeck, their hull sonar is shit and has never worked, and they can only do ASW with the towed array sonar and they're reliant on their embarked ASW helo to hunt and kill subs. What the Perrys do is provide a platform for ASW helos to hunt subs - they're not going to be killing subs themselves.
In all fairness, plenty of ships do rely on their embarked ASW helo for ASW (hello Flight IIA Burkes, ASW LCS, JMSDF ASW helo carriers, practically everybody's srsface DDG), so you can't really ding the Perrys for that.
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[Twitches]
I repeat, did you ever actually read this post I am about to link to?
Belated Battleships (KanColle) [REHOST] | Page 355
If you ever, ever intend to use your disabilities as explanation for why you behave inappropriately and annoyingly in this thread again... Then it would be good manners for you to read that post carefully and think about its contents for a while. Because that was someone who has some experience working with people who have certain types of disabilities, trying to make a good faith effort to accomodate and respect your disabilities.
If it is on us to recognize that because of Asperger's/ADHD/et cetera, you struggle to do certain things that neurotypical people do easily... It is also on you to make a good faith effort to learn and grow and improve, and to in general be the best participant in our shared conversation that you can be. Just like everyone else is under that same obligation.
If I did not try to do that, my presence would be nothing but an unwelcome curse on those around me. If you do not start trying to do that, then you will be the unwelcome curse.
Please accept my warnings, pay attention to what I say, and take it seriously. I really am trying to help here.
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While I do agree with that. During a Sinkex we scuttled the USS Thach however, this ship which isn't all that tough supposedly, ate at least four Harpoon Anti-Ship Missiles, which has a bigger warhead than an Exocet by about 100 pounds of high explosive, a 500 pound bomb, a 2000 pound bomb, numerous Hellfire Missiles, a Maverick Missile, and a Mark 48 Torpedo. She still took over 12 hours to sink afterward. So I would say otherwise. However those first hits would have mission-killed her, but she took an incredible pounding before sinking. They are rather durable ships, if the SinkEx that occurred in 2016 is anything to go on.
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Warning: Let's calm the fuck down
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let's calm the fuck down
@Simon_Jester, what Thor does is ultimately his perogative. He does not have to learn to interact or debate well if he wants to post here. He should, but his current behaviour isn't against the rules.
@Thorthemighty, heed his warnings and remember compromise. You have to make the first step. ADHD/Aspergers/Whatever-the-fuck is no excuse for being an obtuse piece of meat. It might be hard, but it is necessary. I've done it. Plenty of others on the site have done it. Some are moderators. Some have done it so well I never realised they had any mental disorders. Ultimately, the onus is indeedo n you.
Or you could continue your current posting record and eventually be permanently threadbanned from this place when everyone becomes so utterly sick of you your very presence becomes disruptive.
@Thorthemighty, heed his warnings and remember compromise. You have to make the first step. ADHD/Aspergers/Whatever-the-fuck is no excuse for being an obtuse piece of meat. It might be hard, but it is necessary. I've done it. Plenty of others on the site have done it. Some are moderators. Some have done it so well I never realised they had any mental disorders. Ultimately, the onus is indeedo n you.
Or you could continue your current posting record and eventually be permanently threadbanned from this place when everyone becomes so utterly sick of you your very presence becomes disruptive.
@Simon_Jester Read on how long it takes to build a Container ship then see how many there are.
Leading container ship operators - number of ships 2016 | Statistic
These would have been slaughtered in job lots at the start of the war anything left would have had to made it to a protected harbor or died .
The world merchant marine is Gone I'm Betting those container ships on the Japan run were some of the lucky ones.
So Having the Liberty ship girls would help with feeding Japan But that takes away tonnage from the fighting ships Logistics has never been sexy.
Leading container ship operators - number of ships 2016 | Statistic
These would have been slaughtered in job lots at the start of the war anything left would have had to made it to a protected harbor or died .
The world merchant marine is Gone I'm Betting those container ships on the Japan run were some of the lucky ones.
So Having the Liberty ship girls would help with feeding Japan But that takes away tonnage from the fighting ships Logistics has never been sexy.
Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
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- In here, not out there.
Maybe not, but damn is it a huge part of modern society. Plus, cute ships noshing on sammiches from momboats is too great a mental image to pass up, even if it's an omake.
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"My logisticians are a humorless lot ... they know if my campaign fails, they are the first ones I will slay."
- Alexander
"The war has been variously termed a war of production and a war of machines. Whatever else it is, so far as the United States is concerned, it is a war of logistics."
- Fleet ADM Ernest J. King, in a 1946 report to the Secretary of the Navy
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Old Iron
Admiral Unfun
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Give thanks to logistics. For it shall be your bread and your butter.
And save some for the dragon. 'Yodo needs a bit of a break.
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- New Braunfels, Tecas
You know, when the war's over, Ooyodo going to take a vacation, and her jaw is going to drop when she sees that she has about two years of leave saved up.
Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
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- In here, not out there.
Only two? I figure more along the lines of decades. Oh!Yodo is Best Secretary!You know, when the war's over, Ooyodo going to take a vacation, and her jaw is going to drop when she sees that she has about two years of leave saved up.
Spectre
eternal servant to the Fire/EMS gods
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- NY
aren't most of those lots in harbors like NYC and the like?
also having transports does nothing if you can't defend them.
Burning Baron
This position needs more entrenching.
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- In here, not out there.
Especially since there are now Wolf Packs to worry about.
The U.S. Navy got Butchered in the opening stages of the war, Container ships Easy meat especially due to the Fact if they are not on the ocean moving cargo they aren't making money.
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Swordomatic, my apologies for growing overheated; I suppose I lost my temper because I felt ignored.
The idea of summoning Liberty ships isn't in and of itself a bad one; the problem is simply that we need warships very, very urgently. In Belated Battleships, the US in particular is crippled by a lack of shipgirls, its steel navy is being ground up by attrition fast, and its long term ability to supply anyone else will simply wither away into nothingness if it doesn't have its own shipgirl fleet.
Holding a summoning and getting a Liberty Ship wouldn't actually be such a bad thing- but it'd be much less good than getting a destroyer to keep the surviving freighters from being sunk. Trying to build ships faster than the enemy can sink them is a losing game, especially if the Abyssals get stronger for every ton of our ships they sink. Which is likely, since Gale determined that we get stronger for every ton of theirs they sink.
For that matter, the idea of building new Liberty Ship-analogues isn't a bad one either, although if we were free to build such ships today we'd design them to take containers. Containerization is a huge boon for shipping and all our existing port infrastructure is designed around it. A Liberty Shipgirl who couldn't handle containers would be significantly handicapped for this reason.
The idea of summoning Liberty ships isn't in and of itself a bad one; the problem is simply that we need warships very, very urgently. In Belated Battleships, the US in particular is crippled by a lack of shipgirls, its steel navy is being ground up by attrition fast, and its long term ability to supply anyone else will simply wither away into nothingness if it doesn't have its own shipgirl fleet.
Holding a summoning and getting a Liberty Ship wouldn't actually be such a bad thing- but it'd be much less good than getting a destroyer to keep the surviving freighters from being sunk. Trying to build ships faster than the enemy can sink them is a losing game, especially if the Abyssals get stronger for every ton of our ships they sink. Which is likely, since Gale determined that we get stronger for every ton of theirs they sink.
For that matter, the idea of building new Liberty Ship-analogues isn't a bad one either, although if we were free to build such ships today we'd design them to take containers. Containerization is a huge boon for shipping and all our existing port infrastructure is designed around it. A Liberty Shipgirl who couldn't handle containers would be significantly handicapped for this reason.
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Old Iron
Admiral Unfun
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- The Southwestern Deadlands of America
Goto: You have how much leave saved up?
Oyoodo: Sir, I will still be relaxing on the beach when you and Kongou see your first set of great-grandchildren.
I can see her now minding her own business standing watching a sunset when a pair of strong,soft arms Embrace her from behind.
Then she hears a warm voice say Oh Yodo then is Gently squeezed with the warm hug Ooyodo recognizes so well then Ooyodo Says with a laugh in her voice.
Yes it is I Ooyodo.
Then she hears a warm voice say Oh Yodo then is Gently squeezed with the warm hug Ooyodo recognizes so well then Ooyodo Says with a laugh in her voice.
Yes it is I Ooyodo.
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- Pacific Northwest
This put me in mind of this:
USS Carl Vinson in dry dock at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard