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I understand why you're doing it, I just personally disagree with you about the urgency of those railroads, when we've already built up through Phase 4 of the rail expansions since the start of the Plan. I'm not saying we shouldn't build them eventually, but I'd rather slam out some apartments for the refugees we're getting, because we've spent a lot of time and energy building rails in the last year or so, but almost no time or energy building housing.
Also, the apartments are cheaper.
Crystal laser dice are cheap; it will be easy to fit those in in 2061 regardless of what else is going on elsewhere. Anadyr dice are harder. Your big spending in other categories, well, yeah, but many of those other categories aren't plan goals, they're "we want" stuff like Bergen and the rail expansions.
I get it, but if you're seriously not planning to start Reykjavik Phase 5, don't write it into the plan, put the placeholders on something else you know you'll want like the fertilizer plants.
Those numbers don't add up very well. 300 R on advanced xenotech, roughly 200 R on the military inevitably, roughly 120 R on Orbital inevitably... Barring extreme good luck on income rolls in 2061Q1, that only leaves us with about 400-450 R to fund everything else, tops. Maybe less, even.
And 'everything else' is Including six Infrastructure dice (minimum 60 R), the Heavy Industry dice to build the fusion reactors to power the war factories (probably 60 R, maybe 80), the entire Light Industry category (minimum 70 R, and that's one Bergen die and four drone factory dice), the entire Agriculture category (realistic minimum 40 R), anything in Services that isn't portal research (say, 50-60 R), and the entire Tiberium category (seven dice, with very few available projects worth doing that cost less than 20 R/die)
So... yeah, we can do that, if we have every other category (especially Tiberium) living on ramen noodles. I don't recommend it.
Oh yeah, I missed that. You skip doing Mastodon Development so that you can put two dice on ablatives, whereas I do one-and-one and will have to spend at least one die on ablatives in 2061Q1. I didn't notice that difference, because I was concentrating on how you spend two more Free dice on the military than I do, and how oh hey, there's a two-die escort carrier yard project you have that I don't!
I suppose that would make my plan format that I use these days the... silver standard? I put Resource and Free Dice budgeting at the top, and I don't double-indent the departmental subheadings, but they're there, so all the information you'd want is there and it's still organized more or less the same way.I tend to find the following plan formatting as the gold standard. It makes it significantly easier to track the plan's allocation of resources and dice across the departments in the vote tally, as well as the likelihood of success of individual projects (although the positioning of the total consumption can either be before or after the plan, and I think other people might disagree as to whether a department should be bolded/underlined). Bonus points for putting the projects in the same order as they appeared in the turnpost for easier comparison to other plans. A well formatted plan is much more likely to earn my vote.
[] [Plan Name]
-[] [Department] [Dice Used]/[Dice Available] [+X] free dice [Resource Usage]
--[] [Project] [Current Progress]/[Progress Required] [Dice Used] dice [Resource Usage] [Probability of Success]
[Total Resources Used]/[Total Resources Available]
[Free Dice Used]/[Free Dice Available] Free Dice
[Reasoning]
See below for a filled example (thanks @Derpmind):
Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
[X] Plan Catching-Up The Military -[X] Infrastructure 6/6 dice 90R --[X] Yellow Zone Fortress Towns (Phase 3) 25/200 3 dice 60R 97% --[X] Integrated Cargo System 695/800 2 dice 30R 97% --[X] Security Review -[X] Heavy Industry 5/5 dice 80R --[X] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 4) 76/300 3...forums.sufficientvelocity.com
[cracks knuckles]
My main criticism here is that you might as well just put the apartment die on the railroads, unless the problem is Resource shortage. A 37% chance of completion isn't high enough that we can rest easy; it's more likely than not we'll just have to put a final finishing die on the project anyway, and if we have overage it's not a problem because we'll just get rollover towards the next phase.
We're not so hard up for Infrastructure dice here that we need to be that conservative about the risk of overspending them. Note that this is different from the way things work over in Orbital.
See, here I have the same criticism. Why not put the fertilizer plant die onto the drone factories? There's no chance of finishing the plants with just one die, and you'd free up 5R to similarly consolidate your railroad dice. As it stands, you're just making Ithillid write four blurbs to describe progress on four projects, three or all four of which won't complete this turn, instead of having him write two blurbs on two projects, at least one of which will almost certainly complete.
The difference between us here comes down to whether to do Yellow Zone Harvesting or Red Zone Border Offensives. I favor the latter over the former.
Strong disagreement. Automatic Medical Assistants is not a project we can or should slow-walk; we need the extra +Health to give us a real buffer against the expanding refugee wave.
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