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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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Just remember, we shouldn't focus overly hard on striking back against those who've unleashed their masterstroke. All the other Warlords are still holding theirs back for later. Getting distracted by wrath will just result in us getting stabbed when we're not looking.
 
Ithillid said:
But all was not lost. As Krukov's troops advanced into the city, the men and women of the OSRCT fell through the skies, leaving wakes of flame to their rear. Ordered to land south of the city, and march through it to reinforce the battered and exhausted defenders, the first company instead aimed their pods directly at one of Krukov's flying ships, and made landing upon it...
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General Wossname: "Did we get confirmation from Company A before re-entry cut off their comms?"

Radio Operator: "All they said was..."

General Wossname: "Well, what?"

Radio Operator: "They said... 'YARRRR!' sir."

To Master Astrotechnician First Class Catharine Hlabisa:
For service above and beyond the call of duty:
RECOGNIZING THAT:
-She boarded a drop pod to join a technical team, despite not being part of the normal drop-forces.
-She performed admirably both under drop conditions and in the scramble to board the Nod Airship Bogatyr.
-She joined Captain Nagasae to storm the bridge of the Bogatyr, dispatching no less than 1 Nod officer and 3 soldiers in the process.
-She brought the Bogatyr under control and disabled the attempts of the engineering crew to self-destruct the ship, and brought it under control to a GDI facility.
THEREFORE: The Golden Eagle is hereby awarded with full distinctions and honors.
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SPACE PIRACY!

In preparation for the use of Tiberium shard bombs, he had begun to assemble rocket batteries and air groups to unleash a bombardment that could have utterly destroyed Chicago. However, he was far, far too slow. The leading edge of Steel Vanguard, launched on January 7th, 2060, landed on the rocket batteries within hours after jumping off. Blasting through nearly everything in Gideon's arsenal, the door to the north slammed shut, with GDI seizing nearly a hundred kilometer long stretch of the Red Zone Border.
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Huh. That was actually a pretty good plan and a sign we need to tighten up our air defenses.

Here he was all ready to masterstroke and GDI just kind of stomped on it, though. :D

As the Steel Talons closed on Freeport, they came upon the first battery of rockets. These were large, single stage, dumbfire solid rockets, spin stabilized with a Tiberium warhead. A modern Hale, little more than a piece of pipe stuffed with explosives, and about as cheap. These were mounted in simple field batteries, four tubes mounted on the back of a standard truck, aimed via pointing the truck in the general direction of Chicago. While accuracy was almost certain to be utterly abysmal, these weapons did not need to be accurate. Rather, saturating an area with high altitude burst weapons, and overwhelming any attempt at point defense with the sheer number of launches made this a weapon of brute simplicity and random terror. Four such batteries were found in the vicinity of Freeport, for a total of ninety six missiles. Elsewhere, another five hundred munitions were found, enough, even assuming a generous failure rate, to wipe Chicago off the face of the planet for all intents and purposes.
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Well, turn it into a giant mess of little tiberium fields, which wouldn't be much better for practical purposes, yeah.

Fuck them. Then I dedicate this battle report in the name of Kane first, and the destroyed ego of the unbelievers second. On both sides. So let us start at how yet again, David toppled Goliath.

But a digression, perhaps. My men mentioned that it's best to amble onto certain metaphors. Here, I agree. The problem with the imagery is that in the days of old, ones like David were more than shepherds. They survived the wild, to keep their flock tended despite the wolves. And the sling, ever humble and overlooked, is a tool most powerful. I had a Gamma lad with me, to research how powerful slings are– after all, Kane said the men of yore are larger than the ones today! – and with a piece of strong fabric, a large rock, and a good arm, his shot cracked the concrete and embedded deep. In this then, the diminutive David is not as hopeless as the popular predicament painted him as.

Much like Goliath then, the Globalists never stood a chance.
— Excerpt from The Southern Cross​
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A man of odd faith.

I had promised to be truthful in this accounting, so I will not deny that it stung. Plans in motion for years upended by an enemy in a manner that is unusually canny of them. Any other one of my compatriots, the grand leaders of this Brotherhood of ours, would cry at the injustice and I wouldn't blame them. That Northern Git probably did.
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Ah, Stahl, I can bond with you over contempt for Giddyboy.

Passing through Aconcagua – the tallest of the American peaks – his increasingly smaller strikeforce headed deeper into Santiago, now a Green Zone Terminus Hub. Here, he split off half his force to serve as distraction and struck Santiago de Chile. Fully fanatical, this remaining force split off into even smaller fireteams and sections, fully ready to die in order to project the appearance of a seemingly larger force. Leading the other half carefully, Stahl pushed onward into the Blue Zone proper, at the small town of Curico. Barely considered a stop point and one supposedly far from any fighting, it had not much worth, barely a mustering half-strength garrison due to the attack on Santiago de Chile.

Against eight Black Hand Chapters and thrice their number in regular fighters kitted with laser weaponry, they were chaff barely able to make distress hails, and served as the first black mark to the GDI, the first strike at a Blue Zone since the Third Tiberium War by an active strike force rather than subterfuge. More than that, Stahl had taken the occasion to unfurl a Brotherhood flag, recorded by his troops and plant it next to the bodies of the dead before leaving the angry pursuit of GDI forces.
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Well, the bastard made it into a Blue Zone.

That's one for him.
 
JamesShazbond said:
Lots of Tiberium "have fun cleaning this up" bombs flying around. Really need a countermeasure. Problem is, it's not just single giant ICBMs we could shoot down relatively simply. What do you do about a hundred dumbfire tib missiles that are cheaper than the weapons used to shoot them down? Some sort of laser AMS system?
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Well, we have laser anti-missile systems. Every Predator tank has them. Every Steel Talons Titan or Havoc has them. Every major warship in the Navy has them.

The civilian-side version of the system is called SADN- Strategic Area Defense Network. It's a Military project available to us, and I suggest we take advantage of the fortunate situation wherein Nod is unlikely to be able to hit Chicago or Mecca while we're building it to, y'know... build it.

Lightwhispers said:
We did notice, but didn't know he had three.
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Fortunately, we were able to partially correct that problem. Now he doesn't. :D
 
So we gained a lot of territory and cut off various bits of nod territory.

Time to build up defenses to keep the fighting on yellow?

And Good God anti stealth and air defenses please. Chicago might have just died.
 
I think we should stop doing yellow zone fortress towns, as I think that entails pushing the lines out, and instead focus on prepping for Karachi
 
staplesdex2 said:
Will this give enough political points to those assholes in IF or not? I'd rather they not gain enough traction to do some damage.
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It's likely, but I'm not sure, considering that from what we've seen, IF's ideology, while militaristic (favoring defense according to the proposals for the 2057 reallocation), can first and foremost be described as "Blue Zone supremacy," including declaring anyone who was not raised in a BZ to be a member of Nod. It might invigorate the Militarists just as much, if not more.

Edited to add source.
 
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Captainwolf said:
Yeah, but I think the action for building them entails pushing the lines out further, not building more in already held territory
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I think of the opposite, as in rather than the Fortress towns forcing the military to fight harder to hold more territory, the military is already needing to fight far away from the current frontlines and intending to aggressively push Nod forces back. Thus more Fortress towns would provide fortified locations to consolidate the areas that GDI is already fighting on and to better resupply the troops with closer supply lines.

IF this were just a large scale defensive action on a global scale then perhaps you'd have a point, but as it is now I'm not sure if GDI can end this war without beating the Nod forces back until multiple warlords are pressured enough to sue for peace by sufficiently aggressive GDI action first.
 
Overall, Fortress Towns and Railways would help the military supply chain and anchor their Steel Vanguard gains. This will also and especially allow us to keep the wedges we have driven into the territories of Giddyboi and Krukov.

Notably, we have yet to see any reports of naval operations enemy may or may not be conducting. It's something of a concern, but less after we got ICS up and running.

Personally, with this latest stunt, my shortlist of Nod targets I want to terminate (and expect to be able to, or at least to make headway) consists of Mehretu, followed by Giddyboi and Krukov's lieutenant who used Order of the Remembrancer.
 
TripleTango said:
and apparently also missiles costed us,
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Actually, if you re-read that, those ships had missiles right there on the docks waiting to be loaded. It's just naval missiles take a while to reload and those ships were in port to reload their magazines after having fired most of them at Nod previously
Simon_Jester said:
The problem is that if even with a dedicated shipyard bay we're only turning out one gravitic drive ship a year, then realistically we're not going to make any significant amount of gravitic drive ships 'bespoke.' Probably, we'd find each one to be a significant Treasury-level project like Pathfinder, so at most we'd build like... one, maybe two, tops, because we have other priorities in Orbital.
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Honestly, considering next Plan is likely to be heavily about building up orbital habitats and lunar colonies? I think building one or two of the bespoke ships next Plan would probably be more than enough for the personnel transportation needs of that Plan and at least most of the Plan after. So it's in three Plans time that we're likely to start needing a lot of G-Drive ships to deal with everything, and that's also the time where we start getting the option to build another Industrial Station which I'd be prioritising for G-Drive ships.

My thoughts for the next three Plans is basically:
Next Plan: Lots of Earth Orbit Habitats and Lunar Colonies. Finish building lunar mines and start developing initial Mars and asteroid mines. Build one or two bespoke G-Drive ships.
2nd Plan: Start seeing major development of mines on Mars and in the asteroid belt. Initial development of the Venus Tiberium Management Network. First colonies on Mars.
3rd Plan: Major development of Mars colonies and constructing everything needed to actually know what the hell is happening down on Venus, with maybe the first tiberium mining occurring on Venus. Start building 2nd Industrial Space Station, prioritising G-Drive ships.

Does this make sense to you? I honestly tried to pick things that I'd think would be what GDI's population and parliament prioritise rather than what we'd think was nice.
Captainwolf said:
Yeah, but I think the action for building them entails pushing the lines out further, not building more in already held territory
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No, Yellow Zone Fortress Towns are all about building fortresses across the Yellow Zone territory we've already taken control of. Or in other words, it's actually 'Green Zone Fortress Towns' but because it's a military associated action we can take it at the same time as we're taking more Yellow Zone territory. Which takes the form of construction teams rushing before the forces pushing forwards the frontline to build fortresses behind them.

You can see this in the first few turns they show up I think as we only had a limited number of Phases for Yellow Zone Fortress Towns which was linked to how many Yellow Zone Tiberium Harvesting Phases we'd completed.
 
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So given that it sounds like we managed to thrust into and seize large portions of the Yellow Zones, it's going to be interesting to see how this affects the maps.
And as a side note, what actually qualifies a Yellow Zone Territory as a Green Zone? It seems to be an official term, but it only became so after we heavily invested in, built up, and integrated the near Blue Zone Areas. So at which point does an area go from occupied territory to Green Zone?

Is it merely areas that GDI has secured and placed under their control? Or is there a requirement or threshold for a community's integration into GDI's systems? Plus the update mentioned that NOD stripped the areas of everything, so is there even any significant populations still living there, or will the fortress towns just be exclusively GDI army outposts?
 
Model DC.14F said:
So given that it sounds like we managed to thrust into and seize large portions of the Yellow Zones, it's going to be interesting to see how this affects the maps.
And as a side note, what actually qualifies a Yellow Zone Territory as a Green Zone? It seems to be an official term, but it only became so after we heavily invested in, built up, and integrated the near Blue Zone Areas. So at which point does an area go from occupied territory to Green Zone?

Is it merely areas that GDI has secured and placed under their control? Or is there a requirement or threshold for a community's integration into GDI's systems? Plus the update mentioned that NOD stripped the areas of everything, so is there even any significant populations still living there, or will the fortress towns just be exclusively GDI army outposts?
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Green Zones are Yellow Zones under GDI control.

Otherwise Yellow Zones are assumed to be Nod territory.
 
Valerian said:
Green Zones are Yellow Zones under GDI control.

Otherwise Yellow Zones are assumed to be Nod territory.
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GDI Does control fair share of Yellow Zones.
Green Zones are the transitory areas that are being actively decontaminated from surface level tiberium presence.
(Surface level, since underground even deep BZs have plenty of the stuff)

On another note...
All this update has confirmed for me is that we absolutely, no matter the situation, cannot afford to have Stahl become Kane's Commander. The man is way, way too competent.
 
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