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As An Eagle Flies (A House Arryn Quest)

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[X]To Follow the Old Gods: There is a power in the nameless gods of the North. A power that you can feel. (You follow the Old gods of Westeros.)

The old gods are in our blood, if you want to persue Warging ir any form of magic you have to follow the only faith on the continent that allows that sort of thing. We gain nothing from the seven but platitudes and absentee authority figures while the old gods will help and look after us. We literally have no valid reason not to persue the old gods.
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)

There is no other choice
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
Kufufu said:
[X]To Follow the Old Gods: There is a power in the nameless gods of the North. A power that you can feel. (You follow the Old gods of Westeros.)

The old gods are in our blood, if you want to persue Warging ir any form of magic you have to follow the only faith on the continent that allows that sort of thing. We gain nothing from the seven but platitudes and absentee authority figures while the old gods will help and look after us. We literally have no valid reason not to persue the old gods.
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Warging&Greenseeing are bloodline abilities, not religion specific ones. Also, i don't know about you, but if i was an Old God and a mortal betrayed their faith to start worshiping me for power then i would be leery of giving them anything. After all, if they're willing to betray one faith for another, then who's to say they won't do it again, actions speak for themselves after all, and nobody loves a treacherous person. And that's without taking in consideration that in universe it's specified that the Old Gods don't demand to be worshipped, unlike other religions, and doing so will get you nothing. Unless of course you're speaking about the Three Eyed Raven, in which case you are a fool, a bigger fool than Rhaegar was, that's for sure, and everyone knows what happened to him.
 
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[X]To Follow the Old Gods: There is a power in the nameless gods of the North. A power that you can feel. (You follow the Old gods of Westeros.)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
[X] Stay in the light of the seven : there were
Things that only wise men could understand the gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the faith of the seven)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
Zennishi said:
Warging&Greenseeing are bloodline abilities, not religion specific ones. Also, i don't know about you, but if i was an Old God and a mortal betrayed their faith to start worshiping me for power then i would be leery of giving them anything. After all, if they're willing to betray one faith for another, then who's to say they won't do it again, actions speak for themselves after all, and nobody loves a treacherous person. And that's without taking in consideration that in universe it's specified that the Old Gods don't demand to be worshipped, unlike other religions, and doing so will get you nothing. Unless of course you're speaking about the Three Eyed Raven, in which case you are a fool, a bigger fool than Rhaegar was, that's for sure, and everyone knows what happened to him.
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Point of order: we're not betraying anything, we haven't picked our religion yet. You can't betray a religion you haven't even joined yet.

As for the context of their comment, I think they were saying that the Faith of the Seven is not likely to look kindly upon warging and greenseeing (ie, burn her! Burn the witch!), so if we honestly take to the faith we're unlikely to ever pursue these skills actively (passively/unknowingly is still fair game).

However, it needs to be said that not even the most devout worshippers of the Old Gods look very kindly upon warging and greenseeing, it generally being looked upon nervously even by the Wildlings.
 
[X]To Follow the Old Gods: There is a power in the nameless gods of the North. A power that you can feel. (You follow the Old gods of Westeros.)

Go against the machine!
 
Kufufu said:
The old gods are in our blood, if you want to persue Warging ir any form of magic you have to follow the only faith on the continent that allows that sort of thing.
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Entirely false; the House of Arryn traces its lineage to the Andals, who invaded the people who worshipped the Old Gods.


Kufufu said:
We gain nothing from the seven but platitudes and absentee authority figures while the old gods will help and look after us.
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You are forgetting about the most useful aspect of religion: acting as a glue and creating bonds and loyalty and community. And in terms of how powerful that is, I refer to you the zealots Cersei nearly gained control over (she only failed due to being a psychopath who broke basically every rule ever). Hell, just take a look at the Roman Church in the Middle Ages to get an idea of what we can potentially do.
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
Aramis said:
Entirely false; the House of Arryn traces its lineage to the Andals, who invaded the people who worshipped the Old Gods.
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But we have a mother who was a Royce, one of the few families in the Vale that were kings of their own realm during the Andel invasion. Meaning they potentially had the ability to Warg or Greensight due to being first men, even if it was a one in a million chance due to Andel blood mixing in over the centuries.

Aramis said:
You are forgetting about the most useful aspect of religion: acting as a glue and creating bonds and loyalty and community. And in terms of how powerful that is, I refer to you the zealots Cersei nearly gained control over (she only failed due to being a psychopath who broke basically every rule ever). Hell, just take a look at the Roman Church in the Middle Ages to get an idea of what we can potentially do.
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Another recent and continent-appropriate one is the Faith Millitent uprising during Meagor the Cruel.

They damn near overthrew people who had quite a few large, fire breathing dragons, with only zeal, numbers, highly trained knights and potentially a conspiracy between the faith and the Maesters.
 
Magoose said:
Another recent and continent-appropriate one is the Faith Millitent uprising during Meagor the Cruel.

They damn near overthrew people who had quite a few large, fire breathing dragons, with only zeal, numbers, highly trained knights and potentially a conspiracy between the faith and the Maesters.
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Not really seeing a downside here. Well, except for the zeal. Zealotry is uncool, and I want us to be really fly. You know, for an andal guy.
 
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[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)
 
[X]To Stay in the Light of the Seven: There were things that only wise men could understand. The gods were too difficult to grasp without help. (You follow the Faith of the Seven)

We need to be a Knight with a capital 'K'. We are the bastion of what is RIGHT with Andal culture, its redemption in a time where the Seven are an excuse for your actions and not a guiding light. We must hold the faithful to task.
 
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