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The Swedish Chef from the Muppets? Why does he have an achievement attached to him? Do we unlock the option to control Sweden? /Half-Joking
A Hellfish flys again! ( a Simpsons X DVV CK2 Quest)
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Yeah, setting talks with Doof again later should also have a lower DC now with Flanders.
So we can probably set up another meeting for the steel stuff after Doof sees we are good working partners.
Also would set up Frink to be more calm, since the book has been giving him enough headaches.
Besides we are running somewhat low on income and the actions would mean we can make dividends inmediatly from Both itchy and Scratchy and Krusty since they would cost 0 income due to recovering both of them inmediatly.
Probably being able to ask for a little more share on the steel one.
Of one suppose Abe Will still be happy to be able to help mantain war history.
So we can probably set up another meeting for the steel stuff after Doof sees we are good working partners.
Also would set up Frink to be more calm, since the book has been giving him enough headaches.
Besides we are running somewhat low on income and the actions would mean we can make dividends inmediatly from Both itchy and Scratchy and Krusty since they would cost 0 income due to recovering both of them inmediatly.
Probably being able to ask for a little more share on the steel one.
Of one suppose Abe Will still be happy to be able to help mantain war history.
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We actually have done quite a bit to improve things in the plant over the last few turns. Better facilities, working with the union instead of launching them out of town by catapult, better waste disposal and reactor safety...There's still probably a good amount of things to do, but at the very least we've made the place a bit less of a radioactive dumpster fire!
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If people want income De-Radify Steel will earn a lot of it since we will receive it from all concerned parties.
Even if the DEI will receive the lion share it will still be probably more than enough for ourselves. The very description of rewards mentions that we will receive a massive amount of income.
Even if the DEI will receive the lion share it will still be probably more than enough for ourselves. The very description of rewards mentions that we will receive a massive amount of income.
Itchy and Scratchy and Krusty being associates for Doof would also bring a Lot of boons for those plotlines too.
Like Itchy and Scratchy for sure would had brough Doom attention no matter what, so he Will more than probably try to get rid of them in the future.
Doof Will probably not want that and probably would help us detect any of Doom toomfolery.
For Krusty I can see Doof relating to the missing daughter problem and probably throwing the clown a bone in helping him in his search.
Like Itchy and Scratchy for sure would had brough Doom attention no matter what, so he Will more than probably try to get rid of them in the future.
Doof Will probably not want that and probably would help us detect any of Doom toomfolery.
For Krusty I can see Doof relating to the missing daughter problem and probably throwing the clown a bone in helping him in his search.
Or we can do it all on our own and get the entire reward. With the drop in DC to 130 it's a little difficult, but with Frink we have fairly good odds of success. If Brilliant applies I believe we'd have a modifier of +78 on the action, meaning we'd only need a 52 to pass if we don't throw any other bonuses on there. Which I'm sure we would; I have an omake bonus to give +10 to an action Frink is assigned to I believe, and others could throw something on there as well
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Unlock atomic mutations, you say? Me likey!
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Im favoring dooftv especially with the plus twenty got to buy itchy and scratchy.
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Isn't that a pretty easy one? Seems like a waste to me. Plus we don't actually know if they're any good as hero units.
That's kinda why I like the atomic mutation tree unlock. We'd be able to make or improve all kinds of stuff. Really opens doors for us.
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De-Radify Steel sounds like a better deal to me since we have the possibility to eanr a lot of money and recognition.
Plus the collaboration with Heinz lower the DC to 130 and we probably just need to roll a 40-ish to pass, all in all not bad odds.
Atomic mutation still is too low to justify a collaboration. I think it would be best to wait next time we want to make collaboration with the DEI for Dooftv.
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To be fair, taking doof tv and either buying Itchy and Scratchy or Krusty does get your foot inside the entertainment industry, and get the job done of promoting it (cause doof will focus on that), giving you a bit of a headstart on that.
Also reminder that doing the atomic mutations research collaboration does mean that A) doof does get access to the same kind of discoveries you make, so not exclusive and b) DEI is requesting to be able to release any relevant info o their name to gain recognition. You guys can counteroffer that but up to the dice if you succeed.
Doing any of the learning actions as a collaboration with doof instead of alone means that you guys get to add doof bonuses alongside whatever hero unit he assigns to it, and he IS the Learning King here on DVV so that's very worthwhile. Most likely to crit thanks to him.
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Hmmmm..... That's a good point. We don't want to get atomic mutants just for everyone else to get them too....
Not sure then. Either de-radify steel or Doof TV sound like the best bets then.
Ehh, I'm more of the opinion we should keep the De-Radify steel to ourselves, let Doof and everyone else have Gill's mutant stuff.
Though I agree with everyone else that we should just stick with doing the Entertainment stuff (though I wouldn't be opposed to building a Power Plant either).
Doof TV is also the one option that gives out the less of boons.
Like Krusty and Itchy and Scratchy would still be springfield property, it is just that we are handing the license to Doof so they can do work over there for the entertaiment industry.
And considering there is still the stigma from Doom for toon shows, probably any popularity check will get a permanent malus for the time due to Doom politics being widespread.
It probably also gives us a boost to the buy options as we would be promising them jobs on the inmediate future after the buyout.
The rest of the actions I would rather keep the knowledge and recog to ourselves only for a bigger boon.
Like Krusty and Itchy and Scratchy would still be springfield property, it is just that we are handing the license to Doof so they can do work over there for the entertaiment industry.
And considering there is still the stigma from Doom for toon shows, probably any popularity check will get a permanent malus for the time due to Doom politics being widespread.
It probably also gives us a boost to the buy options as we would be promising them jobs on the inmediate future after the buyout.
The rest of the actions I would rather keep the knowledge and recog to ourselves only for a bigger boon.
I personally want to do Doof TV because this will get us 1 income immediately and increase the income gain as well
I think the Krusty show would be a pretty good pic for Doof TV
Or the power plant since the DC will lower by five due to our undead friend the Kaiser plus that Springfield's bread and butter.
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You know when we finally buy itchy and scratchy show, we might have to get the animators and the toons to change their style of comedy and skits
cause this:
View: https://youtu.be/j8S-mwF2iYs?si=zLrwcKL8kFmWYoRk
I dont think is going to fly well and not sure if it will be let on doof tv, not without some massive changes.
cause this:
View: https://youtu.be/j8S-mwF2iYs?si=zLrwcKL8kFmWYoRk
I dont think is going to fly well and not sure if it will be let on doof tv, not without some massive changes.
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Might work as a way to give toons a better life, and as a way to advertise our various businesses. Yeah, this sounds like a better and better idea.
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Hm, even without collaborating with Doofenshmirtz on the matter, buying the Itch-Scratchy Show will draw Doom's attention regardless. It might as well be done under Doofenshmirtz's aegis. His help will be needed, since a collision course with Doom was inevitable from the start.
It is unfortunate the Ned was not able to make a better impression upon Mirage, but it will come in time, hopefully.
Hm, Mirage is hopefully enjoying her employment under Doofenshmirtz, far more than she did under Syndrome. Really, of all the kings, Doofenshmirtz was probably the best choice for Mirage. Well, there is also Xanatos. One does not recall Xanatos treating his employees poorly.
It is unfortunate the Ned was not able to make a better impression upon Mirage, but it will come in time, hopefully.
Hm, Mirage is hopefully enjoying her employment under Doofenshmirtz, far more than she did under Syndrome. Really, of all the kings, Doofenshmirtz was probably the best choice for Mirage. Well, there is also Xanatos. One does not recall Xanatos treating his employees poorly.
Alright, after a bit of thought here's what I think the pros and cons for each action would be:
Building a plant in Doofania:
Pros: Biggest income gain even with us covering the construction cost, honestly something we'd probably end up doing in the future anyway so this makes it easier.
Cons: We cover construction costs, so if we don't succeed the first time there's a delay until we get paid for it.
Create Doof TV content:
Pros: We were probably going to do this next turn anyway, and he'll pay us for it, progressive income gain as the show gets more popular, gives us a leg up into the animation market
Cons: Possibility of Doom not being happy with us, though probably more focused on Doof, slow income gain to start and growth depends on show popularity.
Pave Doofania's streets gold:
Pros: Technically cheaper than doing it for just Springfield
Cons: We still don't have enough money to do it without risk of not having money for next turn, makes Springfield's gold streets less special.
AI upgrades for Normbots:
Pros: Gain access to AI tech tree, small income gain, Doof's good learning means increased likelihood of a crit
Cons: Doof gets all benefits of new Norm Bots unless we successfully push for more
Study Gill or Nuclear Neotypes:
Pros: Starts that tech tree, increased likelihood of a crit, small income gain
Cons: Doof sharing what gets learned means anyone else who's interested in the tree can get working on it as well, making it less exclusive to us
Back Around Steel:
Pros: Makes it more likely to succeed on a difficult action, likely moderate income/reputation gain
Cons: Doof likely to take lion's share of credit/income gain
Building a plant in Doofania:
Pros: Biggest income gain even with us covering the construction cost, honestly something we'd probably end up doing in the future anyway so this makes it easier.
Cons: We cover construction costs, so if we don't succeed the first time there's a delay until we get paid for it.
Create Doof TV content:
Pros: We were probably going to do this next turn anyway, and he'll pay us for it, progressive income gain as the show gets more popular, gives us a leg up into the animation market
Cons: Possibility of Doom not being happy with us, though probably more focused on Doof, slow income gain to start and growth depends on show popularity.
Pave Doofania's streets gold:
Pros: Technically cheaper than doing it for just Springfield
Cons: We still don't have enough money to do it without risk of not having money for next turn, makes Springfield's gold streets less special.
AI upgrades for Normbots:
Pros: Gain access to AI tech tree, small income gain, Doof's good learning means increased likelihood of a crit
Cons: Doof gets all benefits of new Norm Bots unless we successfully push for more
Study Gill or Nuclear Neotypes:
Pros: Starts that tech tree, increased likelihood of a crit, small income gain
Cons: Doof sharing what gets learned means anyone else who's interested in the tree can get working on it as well, making it less exclusive to us
Back Around Steel:
Pros: Makes it more likely to succeed on a difficult action, likely moderate income/reputation gain
Cons: Doof likely to take lion's share of credit/income gain
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Canonically that doesn't fly with the kids when the violence gets toned down.
But this is a roll based game so who knows?
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Well the roll without help is 150 DC, and Abe Learning is too low to offer anykind of meaniful help, meaning this action is likely to be able only to be completed with collaboration, less we are stupidly lucky and score a critical susccess, since Heinz is a gurantee to have high Learning stats togheter with Fink and DC lowring to 130 there's at least a average possibility to pass this action.
I like to think LOVEMUFFIN will be tasked in doing this action and Fink being a mad scientist but no evil would manage to synergise well with these cadre of mad scientists but since he's not evil he only get to be a honorary member and have a spot reserved in the think tank when he decide to "embrace evil".
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We haven't showed it yet but the action if you try it alone has been reduced too to DC 130 cause of the upgrades you h se done in the power plant.
So the dc reduction is not exclusive to doing it with doof, just want to point out.
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Yeah but Abe still has a very low Learning Stats to be accomplished even at 130 without help so we would still need a very high roll.
Besides it would be fun to Fink meet LOVEMUFFIN.
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True, just wanted to point out that using the argument that DC would be higher doing it alone is not right, aside from that mostly correct.