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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

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Possibly supercharge it further. Given it has a piece of the glimmering realm, Khazagar already brims with Deep Magic.

I don't want to pick on you, as a few people are saying it, it I don't think we know it has a piece of the Glittering Realm in it. We're told that:

Something formed from Mhorni and irrevocably altered by what could only have been the Ankor Bryn.
Something from the realm where Runecraft was found inhabits this creation.

That doesn't necessarily mean that it has a piece of the Glittering Realm in any more the Fimir/Frundar's daemon-binding produces items with a piece of the Aethyr inside them.

It's something from/modified by the Glittering Realm, not a small section of it, I think.
 
I don't want to pick on you, as a few people are saying it, it I don't think we know it has a piece of the Glittering Realm in it. We're told that:




That doesn't necessarily mean that it has a piece of the Glittering Realm in any more the Fimir/Frundar's daemon-binding produces items with a piece of the Aethyr inside them.

It's something from/modified by the Glittering Realm, not a small section of it, I think.
That is true. I went too far with that. But sure as hell, it will make Deep Magic more powerful in Khazagar, together with enchanting the runecraft...and possibly any item created there will have similar effects to what we have already with most runic items Snorri creates.
 
another thought, Kazagar's ritual/construction is technically incomplete, as the building itself is missing its capstone.....maybe the reason why we have not seen thungni yet is because he saw we were not done with the construction.
 
That is true. I went too far with that. But sure as hell, it will make Deep Magic more powerful in Khazagar, together with enchanting the runecraft...and possibly any item created there will have similar effects to what we have already with most runic items Snorri creates.

Well, it may. I'd be confident saying that runes near it will be amplified in strength; and that runesmiths near it will be better at dispelling and at runecasting.

I'm a lot less confident that it will permanently improve all runes made in its vicinity though. It may, the wording certainly allows for it, but that would be a very powerful effect that I wouldn't want to assume.

Edit: with the exception that a strengthened stilling field seems very likely to make high energy runecraft safer.
 
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Considering the disgusting amount of magic our gear is currently hopped up on, I posit that it is entirely possible the recoil might slap back so hard the Chamon elemental is obliterated.
Considering most things only have 1-2 wounds, and spite claps back with 2x as hard as the initial hit which is at least 1 wound, the ring at normal power would probably easily kill the hunter. Hopped up as it is, that hunter is going to be reagent sized in no time flat.
 
another thought, Kazagar's ritual/construction is technically incomplete, as the building itself is missing its capstone.....maybe the reason why we have not seen thungni yet is because he saw we were not done with the construction.
Nah... ritually incomplete means that there was some kind of intended or correct ritual that we needed to finish. What we did was swash huge amounts of magic around the place. The ritual ended when Snorri stopped smithing
 
Nah... ritually incomplete means that there was some kind of intended or correct ritual that we needed to finish. What we did was swash huge amounts of magic around the place. The ritual ended when Snorri stopped smithing
And even then, it was pure accident that we created that ritual. Only after an elf friend of ours told us about it, and we were like: "Say what?!"
technically, the ritual did not complete itself every time snorri finished a rune or took a break, and no one really knows what snorri really did with his ritual thing, so the ritual itself might not actually be done, but waiting for the final step as rituals do take in symbolisms as well, so like placing a star on the christmas tree, kazagar is not done till the capstone completes the last tower.
 
NGL I am a bit worried over the whole "stabbed in the heart with Chamon" bit, backlash against its perpetrator notwithstanding. We do want to be in good enough shape to go on campaign in the near future.
 
The Last Hall. That which was once a simple opening hewn into material and immaterial by pick and blade. Succor and purpose, Hall and fortress, a Hold for the dead to safeguard a Gift for the living.

This is really interesting, That Gazul was able to build his Hall of the dead in the Glittering Realm, to apparently guard it and the Gift of Runesmithing. Maybe that is why no other dwarf can find the Glittering Realm, the Ancestor's built a door to it.

So theory time. Thungni finds the Glittering Realm and learns Runes. He then shows the Runes to his family, then brings them to the Glittering Realm. Snorri Whitebeard thus gets the golden veins of a Runesmith. Then the Ancestor's realizes that anyone that enters the Glittering Realm gets the ability to make Runes, so to prevent that they decide to make a fortress of the dead to guard it. While also pulling double duty in being a place for the dead to rest.

It also begs the question, what happend to Dwarf souls before the Hall of built?
 
So what are the chance of Skaudardrengi getting more traits before its done?
More traits? Probably not?

But we'll learn more about what Touched by the Earth:[Fused], Fulcrum Forged, Storm Born: [Fused], Soul of the Earth [Fused] all fused into. Could be "From the Glittering Realm", but Soul usually marks what the fusion result is as a fusion result. We will also learn what By The Hammer And Staff of Thungni did, cause we don't even know yet.
 
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To prevent the unworthy from getting Runes. Zorn at it's worst is in the not too distant past at this point. Also preventing the enemies of the Dwarf's from getting Runes as well.

Depending on what runes and the Glittering Realm are, they may be dependent on infrastructure that exists there, so hostile actors that can inside could break or subvert runecraft.
 
Depending on what runes and the Glittering Realm are, they may be dependent on infrastructure that exists there, so hostile actors that can inside could break or subvert runecraft.

Yeah, that is a thought. There has to be a reason that the only way to walk into the Glittering Realm is through every single dead Dwarf and six Ancestors Gods.

But going on a tangent here, how do you think Dwarfs treat age in the Hall. For example, how does a grandfather who died at 600 years old treat thier grandson who died at 1600 years old? Who is the elder there? What matter's more, years spent alive or years spent dead?

Our beard is gonna be chamon toned and no longer white. That is our permanent injury

Counterpoint, the colour of Chamon is gold. A Dwarf with a golden beard would surely be the envy of all.
 
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