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Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest
- Thread starter Neablis
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Lesser, maybe, but we don't want the ship to die just because its shields flickered.
I'm not sure about lesser because while what you say is true and also boarding craft will surely outrange teleportariums, basically all normal 40k capital ships - all the way down to light cruisers - have teleportarium lightning strike capability. Whereas attack craft hangars and in particular boarding shuttles are rarer.
Eh, edited the design of the penlight to drop a light lance in exchange for a point-defense and medium boarding prep.
I do like LightLan's Candle Mk2 but I'm extremely wary of the over cramming. Do we have a QM statement on the actual consequences for that? Also unsure of the legality of designing warp-ships with tech we don't actually have yet.
I do like LightLan's Candle Mk2 but I'm extremely wary of the over cramming. Do we have a QM statement on the actual consequences for that? Also unsure of the legality of designing warp-ships with tech we don't actually have yet.
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F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
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Fuck I must have got them mixed up give me a moment to do some quick editing.
- Location
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Only this:
We never actually overcrammed anything.
But even should my cramming research fail, it'd only overfit by 5BP.
I suspect penalties are worse the more you go over the limit and I'd only go over by the barest margin.
So I doubt the penalty would be a lot.
SigmaVanDyke
The Smoothest FKLR
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While investing research into biology doesnt seem practical right now, the potential flavour of getting a bunch of weak biomancers in close proximity with our already technologicaly transhumanist cogitare crew sounds like a fun combination. Think of all the fun modifications they would do to themselves! Think of all the extra appendages! it would be great fun for the whole family!
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F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
- Location
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[X] Plan Understanding Bongo
-[X] [Repair Bay]
--[X] Update Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1000/2700 BP)
-[X] Construction (600 BP base + 7800 BP Orbital Manufactories + 1250 BP Voidforge Miners = 9650 BP)
--[X] finish updating Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1700/1700 BP)
--[X] 2814 Bp to finish repairing the shipyard
--[X] build an orbital Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP)
--[X] build 12 orbital machine spirit manufactories (3600 BP)
--[X] build 422 status pods to store the cultists and Necrons in (844 BP)
--[X] 192 BP discretionary fund for Victan
-[X] Research X 2 (400 RP base + 85 Anexa RP + 60 Anexa staff – 4 (20 Anexa staff doing design work) 541 RP)
--[X] Immaterium Understanding (200 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufacturing (50 RP)
--[X] Large-scale Machine spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Faith is my shield? (60 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP + 25 RP boost)
--[X] 25 RP (50 RP without Anexa's staff) to design Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP, 100 CP)
--[X] Collaberative Computational R&D (6 RP)
---[X] any overflow from discounts that Immaterium Understanding might give are to go towards Collaberative Computational R&D
-[X] Diplomacy: meet with W and the Stellar Ascendancy leadership
--[X] give them a full briefing on your journey since leaving Denva with all the necessary videos, pictures and sensor readings (suggest that they leave the Web Way gate well alone for now)
--[X] hand over any technology that has yet to given to them bar Demonology and Juvenat as there are too many problems associated with those just now
--[X] arrange the handover of completed ships
--[X] lay the groundwork for setting up Denva's R&D system (if we can get it set up in one go that's great but we'll err on the side assuming that this is a long job here)
--[X] inquire if anyone knows what the status of Denva Primus and it's people is
-[X] Anexa active action: Research
--[X] Immaterium Understanding
-[X] Victan active action: Support setting up Denva's R&D system
-[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
[X] Plan Research Expansion
-[X] [Repair Bay]
--[X] Update Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1000/2700 BP)
-[X] Construction (600 BP base + 7800 BP Orbital Manufactories + 1250 BP Voidforge Miners = 9650 BP)
--[X] finish updating Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1700/1700 BP)
--[X] Update Vita's Core to new shielding standard (675 BP)
--[X] 2814 Bp to finish repairing the shipyard
--[X] build 11 orbital machine spirit manufactories (3320 BP)
--[X] build an orbital High-Energy Physics Research Lab in a safe orbit (500 BP)
--[X] build an orbital Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP)
--[X] 141 BP discretionary fund for Victan
-[X] Research X 3 (600 RP base + 85 Anexa RP + 60 Anexa staff – 4 (20 Anexa staff doing design work) = 741 RP)
--[X] 25 RP (50 RP without Anexa's staff) to design Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP, 100 CP)
--[X] Collaberative Computational R&D (250 RP)
--[X] Machine Spirit Hallucinations (300 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP + 25 RP boost)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (31 RP)
--[X] Faith is my shield? (10 RP)
-[X] Anexa active action: Research
--[X] Machine Spirit Hallucinations
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building
-[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan: Nova cannons, muzzle Bongo, research Faith.
[X] Plan: PPE for the nova cannon boom show! Also muzzle Bongo.
-[X] [Repair Bay]
--[X] Update Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1000/2700 BP)
-[X] Construction (600 BP base + 7800 BP Orbital Manufactories + 1250 BP Voidforge Miners = 9650 BP)
--[X] finish updating Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1700/1700 BP)
--[X] 2814 Bp to finish repairing the shipyard
--[X] build an orbital Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP)
--[X] build 12 orbital machine spirit manufactories (3600 BP)
--[X] build 422 status pods to store the cultists and Necrons in (844 BP)
--[X] 192 BP discretionary fund for Victan
-[X] Research X 2 (400 RP base + 85 Anexa RP + 60 Anexa staff – 4 (20 Anexa staff doing design work) 541 RP)
--[X] Immaterium Understanding (200 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufacturing (50 RP)
--[X] Large-scale Machine spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Faith is my shield? (60 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP + 25 RP boost)
--[X] 25 RP (50 RP without Anexa's staff) to design Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP, 100 CP)
--[X] Collaberative Computational R&D (6 RP)
---[X] any overflow from discounts that Immaterium Understanding might give are to go towards Collaberative Computational R&D
-[X] Diplomacy: meet with W and the Stellar Ascendancy leadership
--[X] give them a full briefing on your journey since leaving Denva with all the necessary videos, pictures and sensor readings (suggest that they leave the Web Way gate well alone for now)
--[X] hand over any technology that has yet to given to them bar Demonology and Juvenat as there are too many problems associated with those just now
--[X] arrange the handover of completed ships
--[X] lay the groundwork for setting up Denva's R&D system (if we can get it set up in one go that's great but we'll err on the side assuming that this is a long job here)
--[X] inquire if anyone knows what the status of Denva Primus and it's people is
-[X] Anexa active action: Research
--[X] Immaterium Understanding
-[X] Victan active action: Support setting up Denva's R&D system
-[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
[X] Plan Research Expansion
-[X] [Repair Bay]
--[X] Update Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1000/2700 BP)
-[X] Construction (600 BP base + 7800 BP Orbital Manufactories + 1250 BP Voidforge Miners = 9650 BP)
--[X] finish updating Bongos Oubliette to new shielding standard (1700/1700 BP)
--[X] Update Vita's Core to new shielding standard (675 BP)
--[X] 2814 Bp to finish repairing the shipyard
--[X] build 11 orbital machine spirit manufactories (3320 BP)
--[X] build an orbital High-Energy Physics Research Lab in a safe orbit (500 BP)
--[X] build an orbital Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP)
--[X] 141 BP discretionary fund for Victan
-[X] Research X 3 (600 RP base + 85 Anexa RP + 60 Anexa staff – 4 (20 Anexa staff doing design work) = 741 RP)
--[X] 25 RP (50 RP without Anexa's staff) to design Advanced Technological Research Lab (500 BP, 100 CP)
--[X] Collaberative Computational R&D (250 RP)
--[X] Machine Spirit Hallucinations (300 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP + 25 RP boost)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (31 RP)
--[X] Faith is my shield? (10 RP)
-[X] Anexa active action: Research
--[X] Machine Spirit Hallucinations
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building
-[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
[X] Plan: Nova cannons, muzzle Bongo, research Faith.
[X] Plan: PPE for the nova cannon boom show! Also muzzle Bongo.
Definitely something to consider when we have good enough psytech and understanding of the warp that doing so is relatively safe.
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[X] Plan: Fundamental Physics V2
-[X] Free Action: Give the Stellar Ascendancy our Improved Gellar Field, Abacus Manufacturing, and Warp Drive technology. (+1 Boon)
-[X] Spend 1 Boon for a one-time manufacturing boost. (-1 Boon)
-[X] [Repair Bay]
--[X] Rebuild Vita's Core Psychic Shielding to new standard, planning for as much shielding as we can. (200/270 HP of new encrypted shields | 1,000 BP)
-[X] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 56 (Anexa staff) = 741 RP)
--[X] Collaborative Computational R&D (250 RP)
--[X] High-energy Physics (300 RP)
---[X] Anexa assist
--[X] Large-scale Machine spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufacturing (50 -> 100/100 = 50 RP)
--[X] Design A New Blueprint: Penlight-class Monitor Destroyer (25 Discounted To 13 RP) (See plan notes for design)
---[X] Assign 20 Cogitare to assist / discount the design process.
--[X] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (170 -> 173/400 = 3 RP)
-[X] Construction x1: 600 VBP (Spark) + 7,800 VBP (130 factories around Aetherion) + 1,250 VBP (Voidforge Miners) + 20,000 (Boon) = 29,650 VBP
--[X] Construct stasis pods and place our 410 captured cultists in stasis, leave the stasis pods in the psy-shielded brig. (820 BP)
--[X] Repair the Aetherion Large Shipyard (186 -> 3,000/3,000 = 2,814 VBP)
--[X] Build a High-Energy Physics Research Lab in an isolated orbit at the edge of the system. (500 VBP, 100 CP)
--[X] Build 12 Penlight-class Monitor Destroyers using our captured destroyer hulls. (1,500 VBP Each, Discounted to 1,050 with hulls, x12 = 12,600 VBP)
--[X] Build 43 Machine Spirit Orbital Manufactories at Aetherion. (12,900 VBP)
--[X] Build some heavy armor or personal void shields for our crew. (16 VBP)
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building
-[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
-[X] Free Action: Give the Stellar Ascendancy our Improved Gellar Field, Abacus Manufacturing, and Warp Drive technology. (+1 Boon)
-[X] Spend 1 Boon for a one-time manufacturing boost. (-1 Boon)
-[X] [Repair Bay]
--[X] Rebuild Vita's Core Psychic Shielding to new standard, planning for as much shielding as we can. (200/270 HP of new encrypted shields | 1,000 BP)
-[X] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 56 (Anexa staff) = 741 RP)
--[X] Collaborative Computational R&D (250 RP)
--[X] High-energy Physics (300 RP)
---[X] Anexa assist
--[X] Large-scale Machine spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufacturing (50 -> 100/100 = 50 RP)
--[X] Design A New Blueprint: Penlight-class Monitor Destroyer (25 Discounted To 13 RP) (See plan notes for design)
---[X] Assign 20 Cogitare to assist / discount the design process.
--[X] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (170 -> 173/400 = 3 RP)
-[X] Construction x1: 600 VBP (Spark) + 7,800 VBP (130 factories around Aetherion) + 1,250 VBP (Voidforge Miners) + 20,000 (Boon) = 29,650 VBP
--[X] Construct stasis pods and place our 410 captured cultists in stasis, leave the stasis pods in the psy-shielded brig. (820 BP)
--[X] Repair the Aetherion Large Shipyard (186 -> 3,000/3,000 = 2,814 VBP)
--[X] Build a High-Energy Physics Research Lab in an isolated orbit at the edge of the system. (500 VBP, 100 CP)
--[X] Build 12 Penlight-class Monitor Destroyers using our captured destroyer hulls. (1,500 VBP Each, Discounted to 1,050 with hulls, x12 = 12,600 VBP)
--[X] Build 43 Machine Spirit Orbital Manufactories at Aetherion. (12,900 VBP)
--[X] Build some heavy armor or personal void shields for our crew. (16 VBP)
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building
-[X] Cia Passive Psyker improvement
Penlight-class Monitor Destroyer | 25 RP, 50 CP, 1,500 VBP, 1 ship construction slot
Destroyer, 25 RP, 50 CP, 1 ship construction slots
Hull: 450 BP, 1600x350 meters
Engines: 8 gravities for 150 BP
Shields: medium for 100 BP
Armor: medium for 100 BP
Hull Equipment | 250 BP
Psychic Shielding (250 BP / 50 HP) This ship has a neural network integrated throughout the whole thing, that thinks "no" as hard as possible, answering the question for any warp-corruption for any beings or objects within the hull. HP of the shield is 1 HP per 5 BP spent on it.
Weapons | 350 BP = 315 After Cramming
1x Medium Lance (200 BP) Long range, hitscan burst weapons. Not excellent at sustained fire.
1x Light Lance (100 BP) Long range, hitscan burst weapons. Not excellent at sustained fire.
1x Point Defense (50 BP) A series of turrets on the hull to shoot down enemy fighters, missiles and torpedoes.
Combat Equipment | 100 BP
High-maneuverability thrusters (50 BP) This ship is more maneuverable, able to flip, spin and dodge more quickly. This lets it maneuver well through dense asteroid clusters and dodge/ram more effectively in combat.
Medium Boarding preparations (50 BP) The ship layout is designed to funnel borders into kill-zones in front of armored bunkers, and any borders will take heavy casualties.
Non-Combat Equipment | 0 BP
Destroyer, 25 RP, 50 CP, 1 ship construction slots
Hull: 450 BP, 1600x350 meters
Engines: 8 gravities for 150 BP
Shields: medium for 100 BP
Armor: medium for 100 BP
Hull Equipment | 250 BP
Psychic Shielding (250 BP / 50 HP) This ship has a neural network integrated throughout the whole thing, that thinks "no" as hard as possible, answering the question for any warp-corruption for any beings or objects within the hull. HP of the shield is 1 HP per 5 BP spent on it.
Weapons | 350 BP = 315 After Cramming
1x Medium Lance (200 BP) Long range, hitscan burst weapons. Not excellent at sustained fire.
1x Light Lance (100 BP) Long range, hitscan burst weapons. Not excellent at sustained fire.
1x Point Defense (50 BP) A series of turrets on the hull to shoot down enemy fighters, missiles and torpedoes.
Combat Equipment | 100 BP
High-maneuverability thrusters (50 BP) This ship is more maneuverable, able to flip, spin and dodge more quickly. This lets it maneuver well through dense asteroid clusters and dodge/ram more effectively in combat.
Medium Boarding preparations (50 BP) The ship layout is designed to funnel borders into kill-zones in front of armored bunkers, and any borders will take heavy casualties.
Non-Combat Equipment | 0 BP
The research for this turn simultaneously addresses the current lacking defenses of the system and works to prepare us for when we're building our personal fleet within a few turns.
It does the first by quickly throwing together a design for a new monitor that fits the destroyer hulls we captured while not being crewed so that we can control them immediately and Denva will be able to control them via OMC once we leave. Until then, Denva can have the design for training purposes or in case they want to construct more on their own.
It does the second by researching Large-scale Machine Spirits, Abacus Manufacturing, and High-energy Physics. Next turn we'll be able to start designing and building actual warp-ships, with machine spirits, and hopefully one turn after that we'll be able to start sticking advanced weapons on them.
On the non-military side, we finally grab Superconductive Shenanigans for the boost to all our industry, and we get Collaborative Computational R&D to help with future research by boosting the capabilities for such among the Cogitare and Denva. Intelligence Coding continues ticking upward.
Anexa gets to focus on High-energy Physics in hopes of unlocking a physics specialty.
On the industrial side, spend a boon and do a whole lot of production.
Stick all the cultists in stasis so they can't cause us any problems.
Repair the shipyard and then build up all twelve of our captured destroyer hulls into the new Penlight-class. They don't have warp drives or void abaci, so they'll eventually be given to Denva, but 12 of them pack an awfully big punch in a speedy package which should go a long way towards securing the system. The hull size is suboptimal anyway, the ones we design and build for ourselves will be better, but these are a good stop-gap.
Next turn will include researching Heavy Void Shields, whichever weapon seems most promising behind High Energy Physics (fusion beamers?), and probably Demonology. On the industrial side, more expansion so that we'll be ready to build our personal fleet once we've got a little more research done. Diplomatically, we'll be set to help Denva establish their R&D, or go look at Denva Primus.
Turn after that would be designing a machine spirit frigate with heavy void shields and some sort of advanced weapon (fusion beamers?), building four of them to make use of our available hulls, locking down Bongo. Research is probably large(r)-scale machine spirits so that we can design machine spirit light (and hopefully heavy) cruisers and shifting focus back to rush warp comms before we leave the system.
It does the first by quickly throwing together a design for a new monitor that fits the destroyer hulls we captured while not being crewed so that we can control them immediately and Denva will be able to control them via OMC once we leave. Until then, Denva can have the design for training purposes or in case they want to construct more on their own.
It does the second by researching Large-scale Machine Spirits, Abacus Manufacturing, and High-energy Physics. Next turn we'll be able to start designing and building actual warp-ships, with machine spirits, and hopefully one turn after that we'll be able to start sticking advanced weapons on them.
On the non-military side, we finally grab Superconductive Shenanigans for the boost to all our industry, and we get Collaborative Computational R&D to help with future research by boosting the capabilities for such among the Cogitare and Denva. Intelligence Coding continues ticking upward.
Anexa gets to focus on High-energy Physics in hopes of unlocking a physics specialty.
On the industrial side, spend a boon and do a whole lot of production.
Stick all the cultists in stasis so they can't cause us any problems.
Repair the shipyard and then build up all twelve of our captured destroyer hulls into the new Penlight-class. They don't have warp drives or void abaci, so they'll eventually be given to Denva, but 12 of them pack an awfully big punch in a speedy package which should go a long way towards securing the system. The hull size is suboptimal anyway, the ones we design and build for ourselves will be better, but these are a good stop-gap.
Next turn will include researching Heavy Void Shields, whichever weapon seems most promising behind High Energy Physics (fusion beamers?), and probably Demonology. On the industrial side, more expansion so that we'll be ready to build our personal fleet once we've got a little more research done. Diplomatically, we'll be set to help Denva establish their R&D, or go look at Denva Primus.
Turn after that would be designing a machine spirit frigate with heavy void shields and some sort of advanced weapon (fusion beamers?), building four of them to make use of our available hulls, locking down Bongo. Research is probably large(r)-scale machine spirits so that we can design machine spirit light (and hopefully heavy) cruisers and shifting focus back to rush warp comms before we leave the system.
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The main thrust is getting some ships (6 candles) going right now as a stopgap, and doing a lot of research for better ships.
Novacannons! (Gravity Weapons, The Biggest Boom)
Large-Scale machine spirits, both to reduce CP-cost and to get MS-controlled Psychic shields on our new ships.
Abacus Manufactoring to get them warp-travel ready and earn a boon.
Superconductive Shenanigans to increase our BP on the cheap. We'll need BP for actually building our fleet.
A little cramming with Efficient Equipment Distribution.
With a slight detour into Demonology to solve our demon problem.
To help with Demonology some psychic shielding gets built on bongo's cage and the warp research lab to actually get some scrying protection on them, because only newly built psychic shielding gets that.
Cia also gets assigned to demonology in case of trouble.
Turning over the cultists to Denva. Too expensive to keep and we got other priorities now than more anti-chaos research.
Spending the boon to get a diviner psyker and some spare BP (10) to give them some equipment.
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
-[X] Idea: Ships! Ships now! We are shockingly vulnerable with only a single ship in orbit. Let's fix this. Short-term build some candles and longer term do research to design and build new and better ships with better weapons soon. Make a slight detour into demonology to muzzle Bongo.
-[X] Construction (600 VBP + 7800 Aetherion MS manus + 1,250 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 9650 BP / 1000 BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
--[X] Captive Holding cells 41/50 HP -> 50/50 HP [45 BP Repair Bay]
--[X] Aetherion Shipyard repair (2814 BP)
--[X] Candle x 5 [use existing hulls to discount] (5000 BP)
---[X] turn over all the candles to Denva Secundus, because we do not have the personnel for them
--[X] Vita Core 135 HP -> 270 HP (675 BP)
--[X] Psychic Research Lab 135 HP -> 270 HP (675 BP, paid 155 with BP and 780/1.5=520 from Repair Bay Budget)
--[X] Upgrade the inner shielding of the Warp research lab 200 -> 400 (1000 BP)
--[X] Personal force weapon for the diviner (5 BP)
--[X] Heavy Infantry Armor with integrated void-shields and equipped with basic psychic shields for the diviner (10 BP)
--[X] 1 BP left
--[X] 175 BP Repair Bay left, use for incoming damage on psychic shields due to demonology research
-[X] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 745 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP)
---[X] Anexa assist
--[X] Gravity Weapons (200 RP)
--[X] The Biggest Boom (150 RP)
--[X] Large-Scale Machine Spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufactoring (50/100 -> 100/100 RP)
--[X] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[X] Efficient Equipment Distribution (100 RP)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (20 RP Overflow)
-[X][Free] Turn Warp Drive, Abacus, Improved Gellar Fields, Superconductive Shenanigans Technology and star charts over to Denva to earn a boon. Warn them that the Eldar are prickly about their webway gate
-[X][Boon] Recruit a Diviner Psyker
-[X][Free] Turn over cultist prisoners to Denva
-[X] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building - Defends against hostile covert action and improves relations with existing allies, as well as gathering information for making new allies. Will only level if something interesting happens.
-[X] Cia: Assist with Demonology research. E.g. to "banish" demons before we figure out how
A possible modification is taking the RP from Intelligence Coding Overflow and design a slight upgrade to the candle:
The main differences are:
OMC-operated, instead of manned (less personnel needed)
More psychic shielding
Warp-capable
additional Point Defense
Only Lances instead of mixed Lance/Macrocannon
Novacannons! (Gravity Weapons, The Biggest Boom)
Large-Scale machine spirits, both to reduce CP-cost and to get MS-controlled Psychic shields on our new ships.
Abacus Manufactoring to get them warp-travel ready and earn a boon.
Superconductive Shenanigans to increase our BP on the cheap. We'll need BP for actually building our fleet.
A little cramming with Efficient Equipment Distribution.
With a slight detour into Demonology to solve our demon problem.
To help with Demonology some psychic shielding gets built on bongo's cage and the warp research lab to actually get some scrying protection on them, because only newly built psychic shielding gets that.
Cia also gets assigned to demonology in case of trouble.
Turning over the cultists to Denva. Too expensive to keep and we got other priorities now than more anti-chaos research.
Spending the boon to get a diviner psyker and some spare BP (10) to give them some equipment.
[X] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
-[X] Idea: Ships! Ships now! We are shockingly vulnerable with only a single ship in orbit. Let's fix this. Short-term build some candles and longer term do research to design and build new and better ships with better weapons soon. Make a slight detour into demonology to muzzle Bongo.
-[X] Construction (600 VBP + 7800 Aetherion MS manus + 1,250 VBP (Voidforge Miners) = 9650 BP / 1000 BP Repair Bay / 500 Lift Capacity):
--[X] Captive Holding cells 41/50 HP -> 50/50 HP [45 BP Repair Bay]
--[X] Aetherion Shipyard repair (2814 BP)
--[X] Candle x 5 [use existing hulls to discount] (5000 BP)
---[X] turn over all the candles to Denva Secundus, because we do not have the personnel for them
--[X] Vita Core 135 HP -> 270 HP (675 BP)
--[X] Psychic Research Lab 135 HP -> 270 HP (675 BP, paid 155 with BP and 780/1.5=520 from Repair Bay Budget)
--[X] Upgrade the inner shielding of the Warp research lab 200 -> 400 (1000 BP)
--[X] Personal force weapon for the diviner (5 BP)
--[X] Heavy Infantry Armor with integrated void-shields and equipped with basic psychic shields for the diviner (10 BP)
--[X] 1 BP left
--[X] 175 BP Repair Bay left, use for incoming damage on psychic shields due to demonology research
-[X] Research x3 (600 + 85 (Anexa) + 60 (Anexa staff) = 745 RP)
--[X] Demonology (100 RP)
---[X] Anexa assist
--[X] Gravity Weapons (200 RP)
--[X] The Biggest Boom (150 RP)
--[X] Large-Scale Machine Spirits (75 RP)
--[X] Abacus Manufactoring (50/100 -> 100/100 RP)
--[X] Superconductive Shenanigans (50 RP)
--[X] Efficient Equipment Distribution (100 RP)
--[X] Intelligence Coding (20 RP Overflow)
-[X][Free] Turn Warp Drive, Abacus, Improved Gellar Fields, Superconductive Shenanigans Technology and star charts over to Denva to earn a boon. Warn them that the Eldar are prickly about their webway gate
-[X][Boon] Recruit a Diviner Psyker
-[X][Free] Turn over cultist prisoners to Denva
-[X] Anexa active Action: Research - assists a research action you take, granting +5xLevel RP to the action. Will level on a successful roll, scaled by the importance of the tech.
-[X] Victan passive action: Counterespionage & Alliance-building - Defends against hostile covert action and improves relations with existing allies, as well as gathering information for making new allies. Will only level if something interesting happens.
-[X] Cia: Assist with Demonology research. E.g. to "banish" demons before we figure out how
A possible modification is taking the RP from Intelligence Coding Overflow and design a slight upgrade to the candle:
Candle Mk 2 (Total: 1650 BP
Destroyer, 25 RP, 50 CP, 1 ship construction slot, 450 BP Hull.
Medium armor, 100 BP
Medium Shields, 100 BP
Engines, 8 gravities, 150 BP
Warp Drive +50 BP
Void Abacus +50 BP
Psychic Shielding +250 BP, 50 HP
Weapons (450 BP, 405 BP for cramming purposes):
2 Light Lance batteries, 200 BP
1 Medium Lance battery, 200 BP
1 Point Defense, 50 BP
High-maneuverability thrusters, 50 BP (45 BP for cramming purposes with Efficient Equipment Distribution)
)
Destroyer, 25 RP, 50 CP, 1 ship construction slot, 450 BP Hull.
Medium armor, 100 BP
Medium Shields, 100 BP
Engines, 8 gravities, 150 BP
Warp Drive +50 BP
Void Abacus +50 BP
Psychic Shielding +250 BP, 50 HP
Weapons (450 BP, 405 BP for cramming purposes):
2 Light Lance batteries, 200 BP
1 Medium Lance battery, 200 BP
1 Point Defense, 50 BP
High-maneuverability thrusters, 50 BP (45 BP for cramming purposes with Efficient Equipment Distribution)
)
OMC-operated, instead of manned (less personnel needed)
More psychic shielding
Warp-capable
additional Point Defense
Only Lances instead of mixed Lance/Macrocannon
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- Location
- Milky Way
[X] Plan Research Expansion
"Do you want face-tentacles? Because that's how you get face-tentacles."
"Yes! And can I get them with broad-spectrum chromatophores?"
- Location
- Boston
SigmaVanDyke
The Smoothest FKLR
- Pronouns
- She/Her
This is pretty much everything i want,
Big guns can't come soon enough
[x] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
Big guns can't come soon enough
[x] Plan: Nova cannons go boom. Also muzzle Bongo.
Divination is good because information wins battles, wars, and peace. Even if it is not perfect and complete.
While it would be nice to get crew from other places, fact is that we have no other friendlies from whom to draw who could contribute, and are not poised to find others. And, well... a crew member could always die or retire.
Not wanting to accuse you of anything, but why are you certain this is the last turn to prepare "statistically"? This smacks of the gambler's fallacy (assuming that since something hasn't happened as much as expected, it is more likely to happen).
You may wish to watch your tone.
Additionally: while you may have a point in saying making ships is important, the person you are arguing with was also arguing for makinh more ships.
It strikes me as highly suspect to get Collab R&D and not organise Denva's R&D.
Additionally, arming a destroyer with just lances seems suboptimal. They are bad for sustained fire, so these ships will at best be rotating.
Another boring note that I don't think we need nova cannons in that much haste, and that Velkar are sapients so we should not abandon them.
More importantlu, though, you can add this redesign below to your plan by using 20 cogitare for 17 of your overflow RP:
I would also suggest boarding prep instead of point defence. Protects against all boarding; especially important if they end up using OMC.
Mandatory reminded that Velkar are sapients whose lives are as precious as any Denvan's.
Also, getting the collab R&D tech without organising Denva R&D is suspect.
F0lkL0re
Officially not an Inquisitor
- Location
- Shetland
Alright so what do you want me to drop to afford the diplomatic action to start setting up Denva's R&D?
Because I don't want to drop the construction action nor do I want to lower the amount of research so unless I can get a fifth action I'm going to have to drop something I don't want to drop.
That all said:
[X] Plan: Compromise (no one's happy)
-[X] Diplomacy: Check on the Velkar
-[X] Diplomacy: Establish Denva's R&D sector (+1 Boon)
-[X] Research (200 + 85 + 56 = 341 RP)
--[X] Collaborative R&D (250)
--[X] Large Scale Machine Spirits (75)
--[X] Design: Improve the Candle by updating the psychic shields with Encryption and adding Machine Spirits; swap a Macro Cannon for Light Missiles and Point Defence (25).
---[X] 20 Cogitare (RP cost -12)
--[X] Overflow: MSH
-[X] Repair Bay: Replace Vita's core psy shields with encrypted ones (135 * 5.5 = 743 BP); start replacing Oubliette shields with encrypted ones (46 * 5.5 = 253 BP)
-[X] Construction (7800 + 1250 + 600 = 9650)
--[X] Finish repairing the Yard (2814 BP)
--[X] Build up to six Machine-Spirit Candles (budget: 6836 BP, use hulls)
--[X] Overflow: more encryption on Bongo
-[X] Victan: help with Velkar
-[X] Anexa: Collab R&D
-[X] Cia: Passive Improv
-[X] Boon: Recruit a Psyker (-1)
[X] Plan: Keep Calm and Carry On
-[X] Diplomacy: Check on the Velkar
-[X] Diplomacy: Establish Denva's R&D sector (+1 Boon)
-[X] 2x Research (400 + 85 + 60 = 545 RP)
--[X] Collaborative R&D (250)
--[X] Gravity Weapons (200)
--[X] Faith is My Shield (60)
--[X] Void Abacus Manufacturing (35 + Overflow)
--[X] MSH (Secondary Overflow)
-[X] Repair Bay: Replace Vita's core psy shields with encrypted ones (135 * 5.5 = 743 BP); start replacing Oubliette shields with encrypted ones (46 * 5.5 = 253 BP)
-[X] Victan: help with Velkar
-[X] Anexa: Collab R&D
-[X] Cia: Passive Improv
-[X] Boon: Recruit a Psyker (-1)
May add approval voting later.
[X] Plan: Compromise (no one's happy)
-[X] Diplomacy: Check on the Velkar
-[X] Diplomacy: Establish Denva's R&D sector (+1 Boon)
-[X] Research (200 + 85 + 56 = 341 RP)
--[X] Collaborative R&D (250)
--[X] Large Scale Machine Spirits (75)
--[X] Design: Improve the Candle by updating the psychic shields with Encryption and adding Machine Spirits; swap a Macro Cannon for Light Missiles and Point Defence (25).
---[X] 20 Cogitare (RP cost -12)
--[X] Overflow: MSH
-[X] Repair Bay: Replace Vita's core psy shields with encrypted ones (135 * 5.5 = 743 BP); start replacing Oubliette shields with encrypted ones (46 * 5.5 = 253 BP)
-[X] Construction (7800 + 1250 + 600 = 9650)
--[X] Finish repairing the Yard (2814 BP)
--[X] Build up to six Machine-Spirit Candles (budget: 6836 BP, use hulls)
--[X] Overflow: more encryption on Bongo
-[X] Victan: help with Velkar
-[X] Anexa: Collab R&D
-[X] Cia: Passive Improv
-[X] Boon: Recruit a Psyker (-1)
[X] Plan: Keep Calm and Carry On
-[X] Diplomacy: Check on the Velkar
-[X] Diplomacy: Establish Denva's R&D sector (+1 Boon)
-[X] 2x Research (400 + 85 + 60 = 545 RP)
--[X] Collaborative R&D (250)
--[X] Gravity Weapons (200)
--[X] Faith is My Shield (60)
--[X] Void Abacus Manufacturing (35 + Overflow)
--[X] MSH (Secondary Overflow)
-[X] Repair Bay: Replace Vita's core psy shields with encrypted ones (135 * 5.5 = 743 BP); start replacing Oubliette shields with encrypted ones (46 * 5.5 = 253 BP)
-[X] Victan: help with Velkar
-[X] Anexa: Collab R&D
-[X] Cia: Passive Improv
-[X] Boon: Recruit a Psyker (-1)
May add approval voting later.
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[X] Plan: Fundamental Physics V2
Well, I had not, prior to that post by Neablis. It does change Prime's old calculation:
From an expected yield of 31/turn to 62/turn. Which is, at least to me, a completely different animal. It's more than all the RP currently from the Cogitare, as much as a level 12 to 13 Anexa.
And if we do 3x research it's more than Anexa before level 19.
Forgot to mention this in my earlier answer, but if Anexa doesn't already have a specialty then she doesn't provide a bonus. That research is not more likely to go well than if she weren't on it.