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Were it not for Alicent would anything be stopping Rhaenyra from crowning herself the Queen of love and beauty?
The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
Unwin Peake managed to fall of his horse in such hilarious manner that it became the talk of entire tourney.
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[X] [Manderly] Refuse
[X] [Mystery] "The Flower Knight", A Blue Rose Upon a Grey Field.
[X] [Melee] Stay out, Focus on the Joust
With respect to the Melee, I basically see the choice as being the same as the choice with respect to the Bolton: we risk injury, and premature discovery, in exchange for a possible advantage (increased Prowess from the Bolton; insight into our Joust opponents, and also increased glory, from the Melee). And while the potential advantage and glory reward given by the Melee may be great, I don't think it is great enough to compel a different conclusion: that we should avoid unnecessary distractions and risks and focus on the joust.
[X] [Mystery] "The Flower Knight", A Blue Rose Upon a Grey Field.
[X] [Melee] Stay out, Focus on the Joust
With respect to the Melee, I basically see the choice as being the same as the choice with respect to the Bolton: we risk injury, and premature discovery, in exchange for a possible advantage (increased Prowess from the Bolton; insight into our Joust opponents, and also increased glory, from the Melee). And while the potential advantage and glory reward given by the Melee may be great, I don't think it is great enough to compel a different conclusion: that we should avoid unnecessary distractions and risks and focus on the joust.
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We lost the melee instantly and somehow won the joust. Is how I'm taking it.
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What happens if you win a round of the joust but are injured in the process, to the point where you cannot continue (i.e. broken arm, shoulder, collarbone)?
Either that or he fell off his horse and landed on his neck, hmm?
Either that or he fell off his horse and landed on his neck, hmm?
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Presumably you forfeit the next round, unless you're injured while winning the final round in which case you win.
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Toaster cult
I Am An Imaginary Living Body
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[X] [Mystery] Write-in (Provide a Name and Sigil, Subject to QM Approval)
-[X] The Knight of Dragonflies, A black dragonfly upon a red field
[X] [Mystery] "The Flower Knight", A Blue Rose Upon a Grey Field.
Consolidating
-[X] The Knight of Dragonflies, A black dragonfly upon a red field
[X] [Mystery] "The Flower Knight", A Blue Rose Upon a Grey Field.
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[X] [Melee] Stay out, Focus on the Joust
Not gonna take it, but going with this maybe?
Not gonna take it, but going with this maybe?
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Then would your opponent not fight anyone and just progress onward to the next round?
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Yeah, they'd get a bye.
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On the Peake proposal thing- I like Otto, but we shouldn't assume he's a better man than he is, or on our side (yet). Beesbury mentions he's been kind of flip-flopping on the small council - the reason he'd be doing that is obvious. I'm sure his default assumption would be that the king's new wife would more likely than not bear a son one day, and even if it's a shame I wasn't his grandkid it's best to cozy up to the new queen's family, and at least they're not the Velayrons. Except… Viserys seems uncommonly attached to the idea of us as heir, and we're actually making some decent political moves, and we're close to his daughter and might be forming a friendship with his son. But we're still sort of the high-risk maybe-high-reward choice to back.
So long as he has the basic common sense to not insult Otto to his face, the heir of Starpike might be a tempting offer. Yes, we're sure to be mad about someone stealing Alicent, but it might be a safe option compared to something riskier.
Related to that, I think it'd make sense to talk to Gwayne and Alicent about us publicly courting Gwayne to cover for our relationship with Alicent. It doesn't commit us to a Gwayne marriage if we need to emergency marry someone. But it could help with covering for Alicent, and also might help keep Otto in wait and see mode at least.
I do think if we plan on not fighting our half-siblings we're either going to have to defuse that landmine rather than try and tip toe around it our whole life. Yes, it's Not Our Job, but intriguing it and trying to hide it thoroughly enough that she never gets wind just seems like it could too easily backfire.
So long as he has the basic common sense to not insult Otto to his face, the heir of Starpike might be a tempting offer. Yes, we're sure to be mad about someone stealing Alicent, but it might be a safe option compared to something riskier.
Related to that, I think it'd make sense to talk to Gwayne and Alicent about us publicly courting Gwayne to cover for our relationship with Alicent. It doesn't commit us to a Gwayne marriage if we need to emergency marry someone. But it could help with covering for Alicent, and also might help keep Otto in wait and see mode at least.
I do think if we plan on not fighting our half-siblings we're either going to have to defuse that landmine rather than try and tip toe around it our whole life. Yes, it's Not Our Job, but intriguing it and trying to hide it thoroughly enough that she never gets wind just seems like it could too easily backfire.
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Turn 12, directly after being propositioned by the Manderly and (hopefully) awarding Alicent the crown of love and beauty would seem to be an opportune time for this conversation. FWIW, the Gwayne conversation blurb reads:
"If Gwayne doesn't already know about your relationship with Alicent, he probably will learn soon enough. Perhaps you should tell him yourself. He clearly wanted to protect his sister and thus might be willing to help hide your relationship from Otto and others if need be."
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Yeah, definitely agree. Gwayne at minimum knows about Alicent's feelings for us and knows that we know about them, so if we weren't in a relationship crowning her looks like rather cruelly leading her on or telling her the feelings are returned.
Even if people are against that marriage or faking a courtship, we need to talk to him about this soon or we could end up having to do damage control. If we crown Alicent I think that's a "need to fit in next vote at the latest" thing. If we lose but go unrevealed we might have slightly more time but we should still have that convo ASAP. IMO this takes priority over Rhea & definitely Steffon, as the only time limit on those is the whole progress, whereas this might have a shorter fuse to at least tell him.
Even if people are against that marriage or faking a courtship, we need to talk to him about this soon or we could end up having to do damage control. If we crown Alicent I think that's a "need to fit in next vote at the latest" thing. If we lose but go unrevealed we might have slightly more time but we should still have that convo ASAP. IMO this takes priority over Rhea & definitely Steffon, as the only time limit on those is the whole progress, whereas this might have a shorter fuse to at least tell him.
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We're really living up to the Tully words here. I wonder whether that'll make a difference—positive or negative—in our match with Elmo.
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We lose in the first round to the infinitely respawning Riverlanders glitch.
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Something Teen Spirit pointed out that stuck in my head, when I saw this post:
It seems reasonably likely that Rhaenyra's father will live a good long while, but he won't live forever, and when he dies it will almost certainly kick off SOME version of the Dance of the Dragons, as Rhaenyra will have to fight for her throne. In canon, though, he died in 129 AC, when Rhaenyra was about 32 years old. The exact date will probably be butterflied, but the question is by how much.
If Rhaenyra has kids fairly soon, then when the day comes, they may be old enough to ride a dragon and help defend Mother's (and thus, their own) claim to the throne.
If Rhaenyra waits until she's 25-30 to have kids, that becomes unlikely, and the kids are unlikely to be relevant to the civil war except as potential hostages if the enemy gets their hands on a helpless child.
There's a lot of reasons to think very carefully about choosing a partner, and I can absolutely understand wanting to wait a while, but... this is a factor that we should probably at least consider. There are good reasons why real world monarchs and aspiring monarchs usually do not spend a long time putting off having an heir.
It seems the most optimal option would be for Rhaenyra to start having children in the next few years.
Sigh.
Children having children.
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That wouldn't especially young by the standards of Westerosi nobility. It would in fact, on the contrary, look socially odd if we waited much longer.
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Let me brood about the horrible societal expectations of this society for a second you bastard.
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I do sympathize, it's just that Rhaenyra intends to make history, and history isn't going to press "pause" in order to make time for Rhaenyra to get her life together and have long bachelorette years. 
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The other thing is that even if we did wait, nobody else is going to. Laenor & Harwin are both heirs of ages where they are likely to be marrying soon. Gwayne is a son of a second son (and it's not clear if he's Otto's only son or not in the show & quest, or if he has older brothers), so we might have more time on that fuse. But if we wanted to strike some sort of deal where we marry Gwayne but Alicent gets to be a confirmed bachelorette if she would like, well absent something like that Otto isn't going to wait forever on Alicent's marriage either.
Everyone might wait a bit longer purely because the most eligible bachelorette in the realm is currently not accounted for, and for the QM's sake we shouldn't act like there's infinite time pressure. But there is some time pressure.
OTOH specifically on the Manderly question, I think the only reason to extend the "maybe we'll keep the offer in mind" thing is an unwillingness to commit & desire to keep options open, or trying to let them down easy. Which we really do not have the action economy to afford. This guy doesn't crack top 5, probably not top 10, he knows it's a long shot and isn't going to take offense. We're probably going to have to shoot down a fair few marriage proposals. Unless some of us are thinking "actually, maybe this guy is #1" then we should refuse.
Also, if we refuse someone and then some freak occurrence happens that puts that guy at the top of the list, it's not like they're going to say no if we reach back out (unless they've married in the meantime).
Everyone might wait a bit longer purely because the most eligible bachelorette in the realm is currently not accounted for, and for the QM's sake we shouldn't act like there's infinite time pressure. But there is some time pressure.
OTOH specifically on the Manderly question, I think the only reason to extend the "maybe we'll keep the offer in mind" thing is an unwillingness to commit & desire to keep options open, or trying to let them down easy. Which we really do not have the action economy to afford. This guy doesn't crack top 5, probably not top 10, he knows it's a long shot and isn't going to take offense. We're probably going to have to shoot down a fair few marriage proposals. Unless some of us are thinking "actually, maybe this guy is #1" then we should refuse.
Also, if we refuse someone and then some freak occurrence happens that puts that guy at the top of the list, it's not like they're going to say no if we reach back out (unless they've married in the meantime).
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On the other hand it's apparently not actually regarded as especially odd if Rhaenrya waits a few more years to get married.
Oh well, if you guys already want to worry about the future, let me add one more important point to think ......have you guys ever thought about the possibility of the possible half-brother being.....mad..like Aerys II or Aerion Brightflame(so dangerous mad I mean), as far as I know there is a popular saying that the Gods toss a coin when a Targaryen is born to see if he will be mad or not,and I guess is more easy for someone with interests to manipulate a mad brother to try to usurp the Crown when Viserys dies and start a Dance.
......have you guys ever thought about the possibility of the possible half-brother being.....mad..like Aerys II or Aerion Brightflame(so dangerous mad I mean), as far as I know there is a popular saying that the Gods toss a coin when a Targaryen is born to see if he will be mad or not,and I guess is more easy for someone with interests to manipulate a mad brother to try to usurp the Crown when Viserys dies and start a Dance.
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