[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.

Aramil, we get it now. There is stupid that needs to be beaten out of people.
 
Okay, i can work with this plan.

[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.

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Adhoc vote count started by Imperious on Nov 24, 2024 at 8:02 AM, finished with 129 posts and 11 votes.

  • [X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
    [X] Write In: The Whole Deal
    -[X] Give a tactical assessment of the difficulties involved in mounting an assault on Jaarpen. The defenses, the terrain, the dangers faced by the first wave, demonstrating your Martial accumen in the process.
    -[X] Mention, that Urskoy and his men volunteered out of their own free will for the counter-raid and for all the most dangerous jobs.
    -[X] Say about their role in the vanguard, for which they volunteered as well, during the landing and that they later went with us up the hill, since they were the best troops available at the time, that could be expected to fight well against Chaos sorcerers and their lackeys, that we expected to find there.
    -[X] Mention, that Urskoy agreed to put his men under our command for this job after our show of strength, which we can repeat, should it become necessary.
    -[X] Tell the priest of the entire journey, the fight with the Khornate berserkers, of the magnificent stand of the Men-At-Arms, that fought with the Lightfangs side by side, sharing all of our perils, tying down whatever massive enemy forces they could.
    -[X] The charge she and Urskoy's knights performed against the hordes of mutated Marauders to get to their shamans in order to stop foul rituals with human sacrifices present (Urskoy himself said, that it must be stopped for Ulric commands it).
    -[X] The sacrifice of the Knights, that they pinned down whatever Marauders they could, giving Fanriel a fighting chance to reach the shamans and stop the whole thing.
    -[X] The risks she took and that she succeeded at great peril to her soul, honouring their sacrifice.
    -[X] The saving and healing of the single knight, that survived.
    -[X] Urskoy and his men died as heroes while fighting against the Great Enemy and their deaths had meaning. We were there, we saw it and we shared in their perils.
    -[X]The Norscan leader was slain in single combat by our second before the whole army, while Jaarpen was reduced to a smoldering ruin, the Grim Eyes' power broken beyond repair, many slaves from Jaarpen were saved and brought back home.
    -[X] Be clear that the White Wolves' casualties were by no means caused by you thinking lightly of their lives, but out of them bravely taking the most dangerous role in an already dangerous mission.
    -[X] Conclude, that we need the priest and his men, for their faithful are going to battle the Great Enemy once more and will require their aid. Their lawful liege instructed them to provide it under our leadership, for is he not their temporal ruler and commander?
    [X] Write In: The Whole Deal
    [X] Give a tactical assessment of the difficulties involved in mounting an assault on Jaarpen. The defenses, the terrain, the dangers faced by the first wave, demonstrating your Martial accumen in the process. Point out then that even with those dangers, and that despite that as volunters the White Wolves didn't have to even be on this mission at all, Urskoy insisted that he and his men act as the vanguard, despite the extremely dangerous nature of the role, speaking well of their bravery both during the initial assault and during the entire mission. Point out to the dangers the Lightfangs and Fanriel themselves faced during the battle. Many of the Lightfangs fought back to back with the Ulrican men at arms, while your own second killed the leader of the Grim Eyes in single combat. Note that you yourself went deep into the enemy lines in order to rescue the captives and provided healing to the surviving knight when you saw him. Be clear that the White Wolves' casualties were by no means caused by you thinking lightly of their lives, but out of them bravely taking the most dangerous role in an already dangerous mission, in the process enabling the rescue of captives and the breaking of the Grim Eyes as a power for ages to come, ensuring that the White Wolves' lives were not lost in vain.
    -[X] Finally if the Ulrican priest remains unconvinced point to him that he's welcome to question the men the elector count put under our command during the foraging mission, where we obtained valuable intelligence while our forces suffered no casualties, about our command skills and our valour, and that if even after that he remains he's unconvinced of either he's welcome to come with us to the count so that we can both argue our cases while the priest explains why his assessment of our capabilities should outweigh the count's own.
    [X] Write In: Domesticating the wolf
    -[X] Affirm that he's right to be angry and apologize profusely... for being too busy to pay proper respect to the sacrifice/power/righteousness of the Knights of the White Wolf.
    -[X] Give a rundown on Jaarpen. Focus on the following facts:
    -[X] Swear on the gods (maybe even Ulric?) that this is all true.
    -[X] Beat your breast and swear on the gods that you would've gladly sacrificed your own life for the cause that Urskoy died for (if true, o.w. say something true that's suitably momentous regarding sacrifice).
    -[X] Tell him you understand his concerns and will give full information on the plans for the assault. You will give any questions/concerns/input he has the utmost attention and consideration. You will offer to let him be your second in this assault.
    -[X] Tell him again you understand his concerns on the safety of the Ulricans. You had wanted to rely on the proven qualities of the Ulricans again, but their safety came first. The Knights of White Wolf have taken grievous losses and even the followers of Ulric must take into account self preservation.
    -[X] Say something on the lines of: You do whatever it is you and Ulric will, but my gods demand that I act. I will muster the elven troops and any other available troops (can we also claim to be able to mobilize the butchers or other ogres?) and lead their march on this atrocity. Say something like unless there's more to discuss, I need to rest/plan/make peace with my gods/pray then turn and walk away/duck back into your tent.


A bit surprised at how the angry vote has pulled up ahead.

People really liked Urskoy i think, and probably dislike the High Priest attitude against both Fanriel and the sacrifice of the knights.

We don't actually know Regrowth. The priestess of Isha probably does, but the cult of Isha doesn't treat humans.

Also half of our actions are already accounted for by teaching the alchemist chemistry. It's going to be a tough fit to get something like that in our schedule.

I am pretty sure if we ask nicely, the priestess will be willing to heal somebody who was wounded bravely while fighting Chaos.

We can probably give two action in learning Greater Aqshy Elemental, one for the Familiar and one to heal the knight.
 
At least for me, it's the least wordy answer.

We're not going to get him on our side with lengthy explanations. He's an Ulrican.

Another reason i don't like Ulricans in positions of leadership.

They are like Orcs, but less funny.

Useful to point at a problem and order them "hit it with an axe until it goes away" but not much else.

Asking them to do stuff like "thinking" is completely futile unfortunatly.
 
At least for me, it's the least wordy answer.

We're not going to get him on our side with lengthy explanations. He's an Ulrican.

Say Mopman are you familiar with anything the RP books mention about miracles that Ulrican priests can cast? I admit, this would a pretty amusing situation in which to have this happen:
Handrich has some of the funniest Miracles in WFRP (rivalled only by the Ulrican Miracle where you call your opponent a bitch and if objectively evaluated they are in fact a bitch then Ulric smites them but if they aren't he smites you instead),

Also found this excerpt by Blackout:
The thing is that according to Tome of Salvation at least, one of the Ulrican strictures is "Obey your betters" and they are expected to back down in front of a recognized superior. Resolving matters with a fist-fight is something that happens when two Ulricans of equal rank disagree on something.

Hence the Ar-Ulric cannot just agree to resolve the matter with a cage match because that would undermine his authority and implicitly acknowledge that he's not the head of the entire Cult of Ulric and can't get his nominal subordinates to follow his orders.

Thinking about it perhaps we could convince the priest to do as he's told because that's the order of the count as his temporal liege, but it seems like the best case scenario that could result from that is that he would be willing to join the expedition but would drag his feet during the whole mission, pissing on our orders.
 
Say Mopman are you familiar with anything the RP books mention about miracles that Ulrican priests can cast?
At least as far as Tome of Salvation goes, Ulrican miracles tend to be based around melee buffs, either personal or also to allies, and some ice-related stuff (temporary immunity to cold, large area ice attack, targeted ice attack that stuns the target, etc)
 
At least as far as Tome of Salvation goes, Ulrican miracles tend to be based around melee buffs, either personal or also to allies, and some ice-related stuff (temporary immunity to cold, large area ice attack, targeted ice attack that stuns the target, etc)

We should have a counter to cold with boar's hide. Immunity to cold might weaken our use of the Azure Blade, but we do we have none cold spells we can use if need be. The melee buffs could be a problem though.
 
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Another reason i don't like Ulricans in positions of leadership.

They are like Orcs, but less funny.

Useful to point at a problem and order them "hit it with an axe until it goes away" but not much else.

Asking them to do stuff like "thinking" is completely futile unfortunatly.
This is just wrong. Ulricans are direct, but to dismiss them as unthinking brutes based on their religion is a dangerous idea to get into your head. Tehy're the second most powerful Cult in the Empire, and devout Ulricans have ruled Middenland for millennia. You don't get to do either of those by being stupid.
 
I do think that there's some interesting mental interplay going on in terms of any duel if it ends up being, as you propose, Imperious, a no holds barred affair. Part of the priest's objection is to Fanriel being a magic user. I don't know if he'd see her use of magic in combat as inherently dishonourable and cause him to dismiss the whole thing or if viscerally experiencing the Loremaster's use of spellcasting as a tool of combat alongside their swordsmanship would put a crack in that disapproval.
 
I do think that there's some interesting mental interplay going on in terms of any duel if it ends up being, as you propose, Imperious, a no holds barred affair. Part of the priest's objection is to Fanriel being a magic user. I don't know if he'd see her use of magic in combat as inherently dishonourable and cause him to dismiss the whole thing or if viscerally experiencing the Loremaster's use of spellcasting as a tool of combat alongside their swordsmanship would put a crack in that disapproval.

Saying that he can't fight us because we obviously just intend to use our magical trickery to win us the fight seems like a hard sell when we're an amazonian with rippling muscle clad in plate and wielding a gromril great sword. If he's that afraid that we'll use our magics then he's welcome to suggest we fight each other using only steel, and to forgo his own miracles.
 
Saying that he can't fight us because we obviously just intend to use our magical trickery to win us the fight seems like a hard sell when we're an amazonian with rippling muscle clad in plate and wielding a gromril great sword. If he's that afraid that we'll use our magics then he's welcome to suggest we fight each other using only steel, and to forgo his own miracles.
I suspect he'd be more likely to suggest we forgo magical equipment than miracles/spells. The latter relies somewhat on your own skill, the former on that of others, which would be more problematic to the Ulrican creed.
 
[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
 
[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
 
Razin didn't give us that sort of exception about us telling "the proper authorities Religious and Secular". He just asked us to not tell anyone. The guy was really good to us, essentially voluntarily tripling our pay when he didn't have to. I'd rather not break his trust if we can help it.

Plus the Ulrican priest is surrounded by his Teutogen guard bodyguard. Anything we tell him is going to be heard by them. We'd have to hope on not just one person keeping a secret if we tell him, but a dozen, all of which hold no particular affection to us or a sense that they owe us something like secrecy. Who says some of them won't want to publish the fact that Urskoy and his men died to stop a daemon summoning in order to make them look better to the public like we'd be trying to do now?

Talking about a sacrificial rite being conducted by Sorcerer Prophets of three of the Four Chaos Gods with the Bloodfather not being present because we had killed him and his followers earlier that requires a large number of victims for the Ruinous Powers can only have so many outcomes. If we leave out the ritual entirely then we have no explanation for the need to be willing to die to stop it and if we say what we need to say to mollify the Heightist Power of Ulric's cult in Ostland then leaving out the end goal of the ritual seem pointless to me and could prove counter productive to getting him to come with us for this fight.

He could ask what was so important we felt we had to abandon allies to death

You don't get to be a member of the Inner Circle of one of the Templar Orders of you can't keep quiet and I doubt it would be hard to convince the High Priest that something that big when it comes to the Great Enemy should not be spread around to the common man on the streets of Wolfenburg as a example.

[X] Imperious' wall of text.
Gets all the same points as the other plan while not conceding to the asshole priest who is using the deaths of noble knights as a cheap political move and incorporates relevant tactical information to the mission he wants to take from us.

We have no place or power in Ostland Politics, we are a Alien Mercenary who has so far proved useful to the Count. This is not about Politics but him thinking we are incompetent enough to get Allies killed for no great gain.

[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.

This is not a logical argument, but this isn't a logical problem, it's an emotional one.

And growling and standing your ground is speaking fluent Urican.

This is not about the ability to kill shit but the fact that he doubts our ability as a Commander not a Swordwielder.

Perhaps if the cult of Ulric is so daunted by the prospect of potentially taking heavy casualties in battle then they can take up some different vocation then going to fights that have nothing to do with them and demanding to be given the most dangerous roles in them. I hear sewing is doing good this time of the year.

This is not about a willingness to fight but about who the One to lead the fight should be. The Smart Wolf cares about winning the fight yes but he also cares about winning the fight so that the park is not weaker during the next fight, the one after that and on into the future.

Your write in also does not explain why it was so important that after the Nurgalite Shaman successfully messed up our charge we instead of assisting our Allies fight through the enemies around us, instead went straight for the Shaman and left them to get overwhelmed by the enemy numbers after the spell weakened them.

[X] Give a tactical assessment of the difficulties involved in mounting an assault on Jaarpen. The defenses, the terrain, the dangers faced by the first wave, demonstrating your Martial accumen in the process. Point out then that even with those dangers, and that despite that as volunters the White Wolves didn't have to even be on this mission at all, Urskoy insisted that he and his men act as the vanguard, despite the extremely dangerous nature of the role, speaking well of their bravery both during the initial assault and during the entire mission. Point out to the dangers the Lightfangs and Fanriel themselves faced during the battle. Many of the Lightfangs fought back to back with the Ulrican men at arms, while your own second killed the leader of the Grim Eyes in single combat. Note that you yourself went deep into the enemy lines in order to rescue the captives and provided healing to the surviving knight when you saw him. Be clear that the White Wolves' casualties were by no means caused by you thinking lightly of their lives, but out of them bravely taking the most dangerous role in an already dangerous mission, in the process enabling the rescue of captives and the breaking of the Grim Eyes as a power for ages to come, ensuring that the White Wolves' lives were not lost in vain.
-[X] Finally if the Ulrican priest remains unconvinced point to him that he's welcome to question the men the elector count put under our command during the foraging mission, where we obtained valuable intelligence while our forces suffered no casualties, about our command skills and our valour, and that if even after that he remains he's unconvinced of either he's welcome to come with us to the count so that we can both argue our cases while the priest explains why his assessment of our capabilities should outweigh the count's own.
 
Talking about a sacrificial rite being conducted by Sorcerer Prophets of three of the Four Chaos Gods with the Bloodfather not being present because we had killed him and his followers earlier that requires a large number of victims for the Ruinous Powers can only have so many outcomes. If we leave out the ritual entirely then we have no explanation for the need to be willing to die to stop it and if we say what we need to say to mollify the Heightist Power of Ulric's cult in Ostland then leaving out the end goal of the ritual seem pointless to me and could prove counter productive to getting him to come with us for this fight.

This is what Blackout had to say to us on the matter:
Just as a reminder, Razin asked you not to tell anyone about the summoning ritual, just that the captives were about to be sacrificed.

We're allowed to say to the priest that the shamans were engaged in an act of human sacrifice, just not allowed to say the purpose of said sacrifice was to summon a daemon prince. Chaos sacrifices people all the time, not all of them for the purpose of summoning a daemon prince.
He could ask what was so important we felt we had to abandon allies to death

And I'd tell him to fuck off. Our swordmasters fought with the men at arms to the end and we personally charged together with the White Wolves to take on the shamans and try to end the ritual sacrifice, something they wanted as well. 99% percent of Imperial generals wouldn't have gone as deep into the enemy lines with the White Wolves as we did. In so much as we did advance after the Nurglite spell landed it was to kill the shamans and rescue the captives, AKA the guys this entire mission was called for in the first place. Have I missed the point in time where we swore allegiance to the cult of Ulric to the point we were obligated to let Aleksantr and all of the captives die for the sake of the 10 knights who were still alive after that spell hit?

Hell, even if we did go back to try to save the White Wolves we might have still ended up biting it, because it would mean leaving the shamans who had nuked them in the first place free to cast another spell at them.

Your write in also does not explain why it was so important that after the Nurgalite Shaman successfully messed up our charge we instead of assisting our Allies fight through the enemies around us, instead went straight for the Shaman and left them to get overwhelmed by the enemy numbers after the spell weakened them.

We didn't even know ourselves that the shamans were trying to summon a daemon prince until some time. We just saw them engaging in ritual sacrifice and sacrificing peoples' souls to Chaos, something we at the time felt we had to stop. We could just tell him that.
 
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You don't get to be a member of the Inner Circle of one of the Templar Orders of you can't keep quiet and I doubt it would be hard to convince the High Priest that something that big when it comes to the Great Enemy should not be spread around to the common man on the streets of Wolfenburg as a example.
Seconded. Besides, we do not need to utter the words 'daemon prince', we just need to say that it was a daemon summoning. Those can also be done to call on little shits (Horrors/Daemonettes/Bersekers/Plaguebearers) for the space of a battle. That does not make them any less serious: it could have meant a bloody defeat, transforming the raid into a charnel house.
And if a high priest of Ulric and the Elector Count of Ostland are aware that the Norscans can pull these rituals... it is not so bad.

--edit: do we really have to be the "silent, proud, incomprehensible Asur that do not share information with those peasants of the lesser races?". The stakes, what motivated us to do that charge on the hill... are important. The details thereof are not important, but the seriousness very much is. I would go for "major Chaos ritual with a lot of energy and prisoners sacrificed. Could have been a daemon summoning. I didn't stop to ask the Tzeenchian shaman for the intricacies of his ritual when I lopped his head off"
 
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Seconded. Besides, we do not need to utter the words 'daemon prince', we just need to say that it was a daemon summoning. Those can also be done to call on little shits (Horrors/Daemonettes/Bersekers/Plaguebearers) for the space of a battle. That does not make them any less serious: it could have meant a bloody defeat, transforming the raid into a charnel house.
And if a high priest of Ulric and the Elector Count of Ostland are aware that the Norscans can pull these rituals... it is not so bad.

--edit: do we really have to be the "silent, proud, incomprehensible Asur that do not share information with those peasants of the lesser races?". The stakes, what motivated us to do that charge on the hill... are important. The details thereof are not important, but the seriousness very much is. I would go for "major Chaos ritual with a lot of energy and prisoners sacrificed. Could have been a daemon summoning. I didn't stop to ask the Tzeenchian shaman for the intricacies of his ritual when I lopped his head off"
Razin is hardly a silent proud incomprehensible Asur, and he's the one that asked us to keep quiet on this. The guy was very good to us, I'd rather not betray his trust if we can avoid it.

For that matter neither us nor Urskoy knew we were dealing with a daemon summoning when we began the assault on the ritual grounds, since we rolled a nat 7 on our first learning roll to try to understand what was going on. We didn't actually need to think we were dealing with a daemon summoning to lead that assault.
 
[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
 
[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
 
[] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
 
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Maybe setting the precedent that we're the kind of person who thinks duels are a good way to designate a leader isn't the best idea?
 
[X] Be clear with the priest that you will not stand for his slander against yourself. Urskoy volunteered himself and his men to the most dangerous role in the initial assault and he and his men proved their valor once again when the knights charged with you to stop the sacrifices being made by his shamans while the men at arms stayed to protect your rear alongside your swordmasters. The mission was a success with the Grim Eyes shamans dead, their Jarl dead and their tribe wiped out and you personally acted to save the life of the surviving knight you could. If the priest is going to call for your dismissal over the blood price paid by the people who valiantly volunteered for all of the most dangerous roles, many of whom you and the Lightfangs took part in as well, in a victorious battle against Chaos then he should at least not shame the memory of the courage displayed by Urskoy and his men by slinking away to complain to the count but face you in a duel for it or otherwise get in line.
 
Maybe setting the precedent that we're the kind of person who thinks duels are a good way to designate a leader isn't the best idea?
Or like, drop the whole duel thing?

The guy is a priest, a high ranking one at that. Such men don't run around, challenging others or accepting duels from people off the street. Hell, many kingdoms had strict policies against duels, especially in the close proximity to a ruler or in the middle of a campaign, with the death penalty included, since such behaviour obviously sows discontent.
 
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