Anyway the thing with griffith apart from charisma is as Guts noted endless greed.

He never stops even after getting what he originally states he wants adding more and more things that he would commit atorcities to get.

So its a question of how far that translates to white hawk.

Though as someone born in elysium instrad of being poor i dont really know what desire would drive him. Like grifs Beatiful Castle obsession
 
Though as someone born in elysium instrad of being poor i dont really know what desire would drive him. Like grifs Beatiful Castle obsession
Why not take him at his word?
"As a child, I used to gaze down on Earth and dream about what the surface was like. It seemed so magical to me, the place where all life started. It was only seven years ago, when Elysium was attacked by the vile Defiance Unit, that I understood that not all places were as fortunate as Elysium. Not everyone had the safety and security I had so taken for granted. On that day, I swore I would return to the Earth and not rest until every person could walk without fear. And so, that is what this Crusade shall be for."
He basically wants to conquer Earth.
 
The fact that they want to look good in the eyes of the public does mean they can't just crack open the Apiary like a walnut and find what they want.

This is a PR battle. We need to look good.

We already have two attack vectors: Opale can open up about Gwen's abuse and transphobic remarks, which will make Crusade look bad.

And while we do need to prepare for it a little, Trilogy have a head on Lethal Anodyne (a Powers member) dealing with Monarch (Crusade's enemy), making themselves look like hypocrites.
 
[X] Plan Aggressive Stance

Anyways, votes! I'm wary of going to the Magical Girl mission without Black Swan or ND support, but since we can only bring ND to 1 mission and I really want to pass the OPs check for Rakeem's gifts, the healing symbiotes and the shield generators from Break the Glass will have to compensate for that.

Best we bring our A game for the Magical Girl mission, since we won't have the crutch that is the BIGGEST GUN (Black Swan) with us.
 
Also Silvio aside the rest of the members seems to genuinely wary of BS thanks to her rep 10 and strnght.

Part of why Goong to mg with crusade interferenace chance without backup from ND nakes me wary.

Thiugh I will concede having wulongs help to ensure we get an ambrosia for next turn is cunning.
It just nakes the MGvwey dangerous.
 
[X] Plan Aggressive Stance

Anyways, votes! I'm wary of going to the Magical Girl mission without Black Swan or ND support, but since we can only bring ND to 1 mission and I really want to pass the OPs check for Rakeem's gifts, the healing symbiotes and the shield generators from Break the Glass will have to compensate for that.

Best we bring our A game for the Magical Girl mission, since we won't have the crutch that is the BIGGEST GUN (Black Swan) with us.
Fair enough. Though really biggest reason I want ND on MG is themmaybe giving changes to the mission like how John changes demon flamez.

Due to noeeles relationship with nd. Guess we can still bring them along next turn however.
 
Oh yeah mini poll, since no one else in ND knows anything about Prometheus, should we shift Ms. Naught off and make it purely a Wolong thing for OPS so we don't have to explain the goldnine at all, or do we think it would be concealed in a way where it would not be obvious to her?
 
Also since we are doing MG without Mona Rhys better not job like he did last turn. The dice had it out for him and we didn't give him a shield so he was...severely ineffective. If he doesn't lock in this turn I'm advocating janitor duty for him.
 
Oh yeah mini poll, since no one else in ND knows anything about Prometheus, should we shift Ms. Naught off and make it purely a Wolong thing for OPS so we don't have to explain the goldnine at all, or do we think it would be concealed in a way where it would not be obvious to her?
I personally think it's gonna be concealed, but if we're feeling extra paranoid, we could take just Wolong
 
Oh yeah mini poll, since no one else in ND knows anything about Prometheus, should we shift Ms. Naught off and make it purely a Wolong thing for OPS so we don't have to explain the goldnine at all, or do we think it would be concealed in a way where it would not be obvious to her?
I'd want to split Ms. Naught off to the Magical Girl mission if at all possible, but since it might not be, no sense in not bringing her along with Wolong in Breaking the Glass.
 
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Hmm once ND merge were bringing them in to prometheus anyway so leaving some hints of what were actually doing isnt bad.

That said QM if the merge happen do we need to have open hero slots for nd members to remain?

Or does the merge just gives the hero slots needed for them to stay?
 
I'd want to split Ms. Naught off to the Magical Girl mission if at all possible, but since it might not be, no sense in not bringing her along with Wolong in Breaking the Glass.
I think that breaks the rules of how it works? IE ND missions don't count towards the limit, but otherwise we get 1 mission with a max of two heroes without splitting them was my assumption.
 
Mostly the latter. He can also be requested on non-ND missions.
So to be clear Wolong works according to 2) in this list? And he will take up one ND hero slot on a non-ND mission if we want to use his power there?
1) Wolong can use his power on any mission where any New Dawn members are participating
2) Wolong can use his power for New Dawn specific missions, and other missions if he is explicitly chosen for them
3) Wolong can use his power only for New Dawn specific missions (basically the Wonderland questline right now)
 
if nothing else, I'm glad that the two guys who are going to be taking the lead on visiting us for our social actions, most likely, are
1. a rookie who we can say has no experience
and
2. a hothead who will make mistakes in his anger
 
Do you think White Hawk is only feigning being second in command and is really the power behind the throne (at least on the hero side) when it comes to Silvio?

(I have no doubt that Gertrude, Jair, and Oliver have much more say over them)
 
I mean, we get the evidence to prove Jair hired Socialite Butterfly to apprehend his daughter, we nail him with it, that'll cause some fracturing we could take advantage of.
 
Do you think White Hawk is only feigning being second in command and is really the power behind the throne (at least on the hero side) when it comes to Silvio?

(I have no doubt that Gertrude, Jair, and Oliver have much more say over them)
Wouldnt be suprised if Silvio is both planned as a scapegoat for any mistakes crusade makes in their beginnings and also a convession to ameirca.

That said its obvious Silvio isnt suited for leadership not only due to how volatile his enotion is right now but lack of experience.

Even Nugen had time to work together and figure out which one of them should lead aling with trust among each other I doubt crusade has
 
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