Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Guys. Guys. Please. The sneaky option does not represent a greater risk of using Yin arts. We're going to be using BKSD to launch our ambush, and PLR, which is the source of Ling Qi's Dream walking, is also a yang art.

Also, Ling Qi is not running off on her own in the second option. She's hiding near her allies, to pursue a particular teamwork strategem. Adding subtetly to the mix of their unity.

Make whatever choice you want, but some of the premises being repeated -relied on- here are just inaccurate.

[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.

I want to see if we can grab that little speedy thing which was the core of the big fishman's possession. We know to look for it this time, so I think our chances of grabbing it are pretty good.

It also looks like it would play into the BKSD narrative/story about the River King. Iirc, in the story that's been hinted at so far, the River King was manipulated by the Spider God somehow? The little speedy critter would be a good standing for the spider.

Also, if possible, I want to capture one and give it to Suyin for research material. We have a tradition to uphold!

At minimum, ganking the thing before it(and/or others) can retreat again will make our final push to the breach easier. Cutting the head of the serpent is always preferable when achievable, and I think it is here.

While Dreamwalking may have yang components, the liminal space will still be brimming with yin energies from the Moon.
So immersing ourselves in it in our current state is a genuine health concern.

Also, the stealh attack tactic would leave the defense to the collaboration of Suyin and the alien Piper, who is still recovering and reasserting their influence over the tunnels.

So that option implies certain higher damage to the water node, with a risk of undoing the process we just did, in exchange of an undetermined chance of getting a hit at part of the pupeeter true body.

If that's a worthwhile bet is up to each one.
 
I took a look back through our (surprisingly short looking back on it) decision tree for this adventure, and I think I discovered something worth noting. Because it looks a lot like there's a bit of bonus plot/discovery unique to the path we've taken.

Choice 1:
[ ] Activate the Mother's Adamant Bones Array on the expedition.
[ ] Do not activate the Mother's Adamant Bones Array on the expedition.
For our first decision, we chose not to activate the Mother's Adamant Bones Array. There were two main consequences to this choice. First, it left the liminal/spatial warps in play for both our side and our opposition. Second, it reduced the qi drain on Suyin, primarily showing its effect in extending the safe duration of our delve since she's operating the mobile anti-impurity wards.

We've only seen liminal shenanigans and managed to speak to the Piper mid-mission because of this choice.

Choice 2:
[ ] Clear a node, see if the Piper can be reached.
[ ] Go unto the breach, into the belly of the beast.
For our second choice, we decided to capitalize on the flexibility afforded to us by the first vote's outcome and clear a node, taking our time to investigate the situation some more. This had a few effects.

The first one was this discovery, which I think is pretty interesting:
And here, on the other side, she sang a song of frigid death and shattering cold without worry. Pallid and putrid flesh recoiled, blackened, broken apart into drifting chunks that swiftly dissolved into the churning chaos of unformed dream, and something tiny and black shot off, too fast for even her to catch. Disappearing into the liminal deep.
A hint at the true nature of the impurity entity, and new intel on the nature of Underground ecology.

Clearing and restoring the node also drastically lowered the impurity concentration in the waters of the tunnels. Ling Qi was strained in the process, but what's notable is that the reduced impurity effectively doubles down on our first choice in benefitting Li Suyin's endurance.

If you take a step back and look at the overall decision space, we picked the path that leaves Li Suyin at as close to the peak of her combat performance as I think we could have, while taking a hit to Ling Qi's capacity for frontline combat performance. But we also specifically preserved Ling Qi's ability to operate in the liminal, while exposing a unique characteristic/vulnerability of the enemy in the process.

Every choice adds up to the second option being a unique opportunity (for loot) which aligns with the costs and advantages we've picked during the adventure so far. Li Suyin is as fresh as it was possible to have her, and the need for her endurance for the rest of the delve has been minimized thanks to the Piper's water node effectively taking over purification duty. Ling Qi is a little bit ragged, but she's free to act in the liminal and has gleaned some specific knowledge about what the enemy's point of vulnerability looks like, and all three of those points combined lend themselves to the sneak attack strategy perfectly.

Every choice, when looked at summed up instead of individual parts, builds up to give us a unique and unrepeatable opportunity to a) do something cool and b) get bonus value out of the adventure. We occasionally get these bonus/side objectives/benefits unlocked by taking specific routes during adventures. If we do a drag-out fight, we're simply not going to be able to catch any of the tiny zippy liminal cores, so this definitely looks like one such case.

But more importantly I have seen them, and in my heart they are already loot. Heck, pilfering weird liminal or impurity parasites is basically a tradition now, and this thing is both. I want it I want it Iwantit!

Also, in terms of doing something cool, I think if we go for the ambush, we might be able to stunt our new BKSD fish tech into swallowing the enemy puppetry core thingy? There's something there about the fish being used to carry/shield other techniques and the enemy parasite's nature of implanting itself in and taking over foreign systems which feels like it could be used to twist things around in a fun and cool and clever way. Taking advantage of the natures of both to subvert the expected relationship, or something. Yrs is way better at this stuff than I am, but my brain is just itching that this is the way the scene/capture goes.

While Dreamwalking may have yang components, the liminal space will still be brimming with yin energies from the Moon.
So immersing ourselves in it in our current state is a genuine health concern.
I can't find anything in the text to support this. It looks like all the lunar qi went into the Piper; there's no mention of spillage. The quote earlier in my post, where we spotted the tiny parasite, suggests that the Piper being charged with undigested yin qi shouldn't impact the liminal either, since the liminal was isolated enough from the Piper to allow safe usage of FFS. We were also only warned about yin aspected qi in reference to our dantian, so environmental qi shouldn't be a serious concern even if there was spillage. Ling Qi's already limiting her qi respiration down here because of the ick.

I firmly believe the "no yin arts" issue isn't something Ling Qi's going to breach in either case. She's also going to win with either choice.

[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
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Abeo convinced me:
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
@AbeoLogos
you have changed.my mind with well put response.
Initially I thought holding the line would fit better with our recent insight into multiple separate things coming together stronger but this feels like another expression I hadn't considered and I love loot
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
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[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Hold here, a hard wall together with Suyin and Piper, break the parasites offensive thrust, and strike back when it is reeling from the deflection.
 
[X] Hold here, a hard wall together with Suyin and Piper, break the parasites offensive thrust, and strike back when it is reeling from the deflection.
 
I'm always a sucker for losing votes and Abeo had a great argument.

[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
Ok, @AbeoLogos' effortpost has swayed me.

[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Hold here, a hard wall together with Suyin and Piper, break the parasites offensive thrust, and strike back when it is reeling from the deflection.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
... A good Abeo Argument that isn't just entirely dependent on their personal outlook and opinions?

I must recognize this unicorn by admiring it.

[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.

The power of the effortpost
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Suyin has grown capable, all on her own. Between her and Piper they can hold this place. The liminal lies open. If you were to conceal yourself there, you might strike the creatures true vulnerabilities when a moment presents itself.
 
[X] Hold here, a hard wall together with Suyin and Piper, break the parasites offensive thrust, and strike back when it is reeling from the deflection.

"Suyin has grown capable all on her own" is something people should be paying more attention to. Like, this is clearly Ling Qi in-character making a surface justification for doing the thing she's more comfortable doing and ignoring the personal risk/danger/warnings involved. She has a history of doing this. It should be a warning sign.
 
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