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[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
Honestly I just think it's really cool
Honestly I just think it's really cool
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
Yeah, 20 turns is way too much. 12 turns is highest we can get with current tensions ramping up, our revolution growing exponentially (I imagine the food techs will only speed that up), and Dutchy spending another action on sniffing out dissenters and stumbling upon literal billions of Star Child followers. Better a 50 billion in hand than 100 billion next century...
50 billion will be 1/6th of our needs, anyway. And I imagine we don't need to evacuate the whole damn hive.
Even then, we'll really need to put effort to hide our revolution. We need more time for everything.
How to do so though? More stealth Melodies/Songs? Or maybe telling our folks to infiltrate local Adeptus Arbites forces, to remove leads and falsify reports?
Yeah, 20 turns is way too much. 12 turns is highest we can get with current tensions ramping up, our revolution growing exponentially (I imagine the food techs will only speed that up), and Dutchy spending another action on sniffing out dissenters and stumbling upon literal billions of Star Child followers. Better a 50 billion in hand than 100 billion next century...
50 billion will be 1/6th of our needs, anyway. And I imagine we don't need to evacuate the whole damn hive.
Even then, we'll really need to put effort to hide our revolution. We need more time for everything.
How to do so though? More stealth Melodies/Songs? Or maybe telling our folks to infiltrate local Adeptus Arbites forces, to remove leads and falsify reports?
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[X] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)
[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
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[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
I'd absolutely vote for Maphara as our second terraforming option, but we need space much sooner than that.
I'd absolutely vote for Maphara as our second terraforming option, but we need space much sooner than that.
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[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
[X] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)
I'm really split here. Howling Gale will be ready 8 turns faster but Maphara by itself takes care of almost a third of our expected population of Hivers. I think Maphara then Howling Gale in a turn or two. Best choice depends on how quickly we need to have solutions for the refugees.
So we don't know when the open revolution in hives will start, we don't know for how long we will be fighting on the ground and we don't know exactly how many civilians we have to move or how quickly.
I'd like to get some kind of time table for how urgent the refugee crisis will be, preferably without throwing a bunch on our established worlds and causing another action sink with civil unrest.
1. Will we be able to do the civilian evacuation while we are fighting the ground war in the hive cities?
2. Do we have to start moving the civilian refugees off Voxx Primus immediately after the war kicks off?
3. Based on fighting fierce enough to churn through 20 SAGs per turn and kill half the population, can we estimate what size of population Voxx Prime will be able to support when the fighting is over and how long they could stay there?
4. Can we renovate the Voxx hive cities to support a population at our living standards after the fighting is over? Whats the max population size the Federation Convention would accept?
5. What size of population could the 3 Agriworlds support if we develop them, or are they mono-purpose?
6. Do we know what the Imperial world in Eshich system looks like and the potential of that system to house refugees?
7. Even if we can't permanently house people on Voxx Primus, would Hivers be willing/able to wait decades for a terraformed world to come online?
I'm really split here. Howling Gale will be ready 8 turns faster but Maphara by itself takes care of almost a third of our expected population of Hivers. I think Maphara then Howling Gale in a turn or two. Best choice depends on how quickly we need to have solutions for the refugees.
So we don't know when the open revolution in hives will start, we don't know for how long we will be fighting on the ground and we don't know exactly how many civilians we have to move or how quickly.
I'd like to get some kind of time table for how urgent the refugee crisis will be, preferably without throwing a bunch on our established worlds and causing another action sink with civil unrest.
1. Will we be able to do the civilian evacuation while we are fighting the ground war in the hive cities?
2. Do we have to start moving the civilian refugees off Voxx Primus immediately after the war kicks off?
3. Based on fighting fierce enough to churn through 20 SAGs per turn and kill half the population, can we estimate what size of population Voxx Prime will be able to support when the fighting is over and how long they could stay there?
4. Can we renovate the Voxx hive cities to support a population at our living standards after the fighting is over? Whats the max population size the Federation Convention would accept?
5. What size of population could the 3 Agriworlds support if we develop them, or are they mono-purpose?
6. Do we know what the Imperial world in Eshich system looks like and the potential of that system to house refugees?
7. Even if we can't permanently house people on Voxx Primus, would Hivers be willing/able to wait decades for a terraformed world to come online?
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But the question is, would they see the Cult of the Star Child as something to immediately stamp out, let alone an infiltration attempt by us? Keep in mind they have no idea that the Federation even has any humans and the Cult of the Star-Child could be seen as a weird splinter of the Imperial Cult. Albeit, if an Inquisitor looks at it hard enough they'll probably get the feeling that it's a secret Tzeentch Cult, but they likely won't be able to just wipe them out in one turn and we might know when they start getting suspicious.
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We are absolutely a heresy to them. Besides, 5/5 Dogmatics kill whole hab blocks for having an equivalent of our (Anti)Particularist heresies anyway.
The moment they see us, they'll go "OH SHIT HERETICS", which means widescale purge, which means we have no choice besides open revolt.
Do they do massive purges of Emperor Reborn people? There's a whole section of the Inquisiton that's pretty big on it and they're generally very hands off with close enough Emperor worship and lower hives in general.
the point is 40k is massively complication with even the inquisition being a complex web of borderline heresy to pigheaded incompetence. We tend to go on the Meme parts of 40k while got to overly forgiving or other parts of 40k. Just like the Exterminatus. No an Inquisitor cannot just deploy one willy nilly and will be held accountable if they used it and it turns out it wasn't needed at all, they will use that at a last resort or the role of a villain in a book. its far more complicated then things are. Same with how most people thing the Imperium would be in crossovers or stories where they meet another human faction or modern day earth. No their first action is not going to be Exterminatus, there is in fact an entire branch of the Administratum dedicated to slowly integrating stray worlds/factions of humanity to the Imperial Creed and are in fact capable of doubt and disbelief in the Emperor for a time as they convert the non-believers who never had the chance to learn of it.
Its a complex thing and chances are the Dutchy is just an memey of 40k Imperium and will do it. The idea they find one part of our forces and exterminate half the population of the hive is an insane and extreme jump. Also I laugh billions of star children we haven't even reached one billion yet. we are still that small.
Its a complex thing and chances are the Dutchy is just an memey of 40k Imperium and will do it. The idea they find one part of our forces and exterminate half the population of the hive is an insane and extreme jump. Also I laugh billions of star children we haven't even reached one billion yet. we are still that small.
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Pretty sure we are in the billions range? I think it was in the double digits of billions
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I'm eyeballing the Duchy subsector we have access to, and it is prompting me to ask how Unstable Warp Routes work.
If we're able to reliably make use of them and have- 12? Yes, 12 Fleets- free for maneuver and invasion, we might be able to cut off the Breaky subsystem in its entirely.
We might want to look into doing another reorganization action and figure out policy for groups of three or four fleets tasked to the same problem.
If we're able to reliably make use of them and have- 12? Yes, 12 Fleets- free for maneuver and invasion, we might be able to cut off the Breaky subsystem in its entirely.
We might want to look into doing another reorganization action and figure out policy for groups of three or four fleets tasked to the same problem.
almost postive we weren't but we can bug the QM again for it since I don't know where the last update on that was. @HeroCooky what's the numbers on the population on our side?
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Unstable warp routes can be traversed with a Choir, but it is risky. (delays, splitting, some not arriving at all, etc)
With Warp Beacons we could stabilize them, but that would stabilize them for all, including our enemies.
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[X] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
Our latest info as of 760.M42, 2 threadmarks ago.
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Our entire polity has a population in something like the 20-30 billion range. Our Infiltrators/Converts on Vox Primus only recently hit 700 Million.
thank you for that. So given its been 20 years I will guess it just reached over 1 billion. singular Billion. only just reaching that league.