Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Fine we will make a pendent. Should be able to whip one up in less then 5 minutes.

Molly does not have working eyes when she is dispersed in liquid, does not matter what form the container is. All she can do is hear (sense vibrations technically) so unless an action is so obvious from sound alone that she can give it your full attention based on that she cannot use SSC that way.
 
This seems like something that could be relevant to the task at hand so I'd rather be aware than not in case there's context we're missing here. Arawn has a habit of leaving out pertinent information like when he didn't want Lydia to tell us about the possible AntiOutsider power ghost may have after Harry almost got killed by one, so I don't particularly care for his opinion here.

[X] Ask her to continue, if something does happen you're pretty sure you can take it on
 
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Molly does not have working eyes when she is dispersed in liquid, does not matter what form the container is. All she can do is hear (sense vibrations technically) so unless an action is so obvious from sound alone that she can give it your full attention based on that she cannot use SSC that way.

RVD does provide vision though even though we lack physical eyes:
The Infernal spends a moment in concentration, and then vanishes into her liquid hiding place at the end of the turn. She may see and hear anything that occurs nearby, as though through a pane of thin glass.

BSM also provides a vision boost if the additional backing would be relevant:

The Infernal suffers no penalties or difficulties while attempting to perceive her surroundings while submerged. She can hear and see clearly around herself out to at least 200 yards despite impediments such as churning silt or being in the absolute darkness of the sub-light layers of the ocean.

Fair play if you want to nix SSC-ing people from a bottle, but I think we should at least be able to see our surroundings.
 
RVD does provide vision though even though we lack physical eyes:


BSM also provides a vision boost if the additional backing would be relevant:



Fair play if you want to nix SSC-ing people from a bottle, but I think we should at least be able to see our surroundings.

Huh... I was sure it did not give vision for some reason. Fair is fair then you guys can use SSC though the bottle as long as you can see out though the liquid, that is not in this case since it was in Lash's purse.
 
Huh... I was sure it did not give vision for some reason. Fair is fair then you guys can use SSC though the bottle as long as you can see out though the liquid, that is not in this case since it was in Lash's purse.
Even if the liquid was black ink BSM and we were in pitch black darkness with no light should let us see though it when submerged.
 
Even if the liquid was black ink BSM and we were in pitch black darkness with no light should let us see though it when submerged.

Depends on the reading of the charm, it is way too late for me to get into details now, but I do not think the intention of the designers was to give better than human senses, otherwise you get into the situation where you can use this as X-ray vision, literally using it to see through walls by putting yourself into a liquid next to them.
 
Depends on the reading of the charm, it is way too late for me to get into details now, but I do not think the intention of the designers was to give better than human senses, otherwise you get into the situation where you can use this as X-ray vision, literally using it to see through walls by putting yourself into a liquid next to them.
RVD doesn't, but BSM does say that while submerged we can see through quite a bit of obstruction.
 
1) Courtesy towards a friend; like I've pointed out, we could have used it ages ago, but its rude to do that to people you consider friends
2) If we dont ask the right question, we run the risk of missing important details.

Not sure why she'd bother to actually fight him. Set his stamina or dex to zero and let him collapse. I doubt he'll make a difficulty 8 willpower check to resist.
Sometimes you just wanna smack a bitch. :V

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Arc 13 Post 13: What the Hounds Keep
What the Hounds Keep

4rd of February 2007 A.D.

While you certainly are not above capital C Curiosity and a good bit harder to kill than any cat ignoring the advice of an ancient Welsh God about what should and should not be spoken of after sunset seems like a bad idea, the kind that ends in violence. So instead as misty day gives way gracefully to a night of cold and fitful winds playing in from the sea the five of you wonder, first on the paths, clear-marked for visitors then on the solid ground where snowdrop, aconite and even daffodil are starting to grow. All around owls hoot and nightjars sing, likely sensing Midnight's intrusion. Strangers, strangers, they call one to the other until once you are well out of sight of the paths Lydia starts letting the pale silver of her light shine through, a new beacon alike onto the old. In a tongue which no mortal had spoken since even the Celts were newcomers and the rings of stone still whole under the moonlight she called out in turn. Before she gave them voice in full your friend had explained their meaning as near as the English Language could not render them:

"You who have sought the Cauldron was stolen
Over sea, over mountain, though sunset golden
Fearing not sword bright not voice or king
From Caer Sindi took wing
Bright noses the waves now to breathe
Prydwen now to catch with thine strong teeth"

"Who calls, who calls, who calls," the words seem at first echoes of hers, a rustle in the water, a hoot in the trees, at least until you realize that they hadn't been in English and yet you understood... the meaning and the malice. "Pretty little corpse girl come to die. Born thief, made thief, thief is what you've chosen..."

Pale shadows moved at the edge of sight, hunting hounds white and grey, like snow splotched with ask, except for their eyes, red and blood, lolling tongues just as red. "To be, to be, to be."

"We should maybe get out of here..." Daniel starts, though you have no doubt he'd try to be last in any retreat.

"Alas young Daniel we are not moths," Tiffany retorts. "No eyes have we painted on our wings to ward off hunters, no wings at all, guard up and wits about you!"

"You who have hunted, you who have found, you who have pledged to give what you can once the Treasures of Arawn have been put in their place. I speak to you now of the world past thine shores, I speak you softly of what I have learned: The world is changed yet changing still, the tower of six names will not be raised anew as it was, but in the land where a dozen, a score, a hundred towers of metal and false stone are raised a charge I now offer, free as I am."

"Free thou would be as ever lords are," the largest of the hounds declares, "but what of our freedoms who cannot walk where death has not tread? What care have you, by the crown burden even less than thine father?"

More lights now are fathering tens, dozens hundreds, a swarm of pale lights in perilous contemplation..

"Is that what you think of him then? That he left because it was easy and then left again because of some whim?" The words ring with anger, but more they ring with sorrow. "The doors of death are broken and things sneak through the cracks to take bodies untimely and tempt those unwilling to pass. If none should wear the crown of death than forgotten it shall topple into ebon depths until a clawed hand snatches it. I offer you a chance to help and thereby help yourselves to more than a lonely vigil on this narrow island, gusts of the wind that once girdled the world?"

In posture and in manner anger turned to longing, but still the greatest and Eldest said onto the daughter of Death "While prisoners four are still bound under stone so we must guard, until the turning of the world."

"All of you together, four prisoners to keep?" Lydia asks, her voice sweet as sage and wormwood burning.

"Aye for they are mighty. First Llyr Half-Speech, who was imprisoned by Euroswydd, and the second, Mabon son of Modron, and third, Gwair son of Geirioedd. And one who was more exalted than the three of them, was three nights in prison in Caer Oeth and Anoeth, and three nights imprisoned by Gwen Pendragon, and three nights in an enchanted prison under the Stone of Echymeint. This Exalted Prisoner was Arthur. All now are bound before the spoils of Annwfn which they tried to take and we given leave to guard these lands lest they escape."

"So... if we take the nice doggies away King Arthur is liable to return to Britain and what ask for his crown back?" Olivia can't quite hold back a nervous laugh.

"If we take all of them," Lydia points out reasonably. "I ask only for those who are weary of your vigil, of showing yourselves only to the dead and the dying, that again in flesh you shall live."

Lydia loses 1 Essence -> Jade Talisman now at 0/3 (Manipulation Excellency)

The hounds turned and spoke one with another, in no language you or even Lydia could speak. Some there were who wished to take her bargain and they would not be dissuaded but the others did not know what would happen if the guard was lessened on those who sought to steal for Arthur the secret of Immortality.

That is why they had chosen to stay in Britain rather than pass into the service of the Winter Court along with their once master, they had their own gates to guard against the heroes who were almost-as-gods. And that more likely than not is why Saint David intervened to allow it for the dead should not live again until Judgement Day comes, by Scripture at least

What do you do?

[] Offer to strengthen the door that leads to the prison of the three and onto Arthur's return from Avalon

[] Just take with you what hounds had grown weary of their task

[] Why should the doors stay closed when there is so much wrong in the world, why should heroes sleep until the end of days? Offer to walk to the gate and break it with brass that all will be free to range as they will

[] Write in


OOC: The literary basis for this little conundrum are the Welsh Triads and the Raid on the Otherwold, combined and reimagined of course.
 
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[X] Offer to strengthen the door that leads to the prison of the three and onto Arthur's return from Avalon

[] Why should the doors stay closed when there is so much wrong in the world, why should heroes sleep until the end of days? Offer to walk to the gate and break it with bras that all will be free to range as they will
I know there are people who want this but, for the love of God, NO.

Their desire is to prevent this, are we going to get into a fight with the people we came here to look for? Instead, how about we use our skills to fulfill their and Saint David's wishes, so we can take everyone with Lydia?
 
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[X] Offer to strengthen the door that leads to the prison of the three and onto Arthur's return from Avalon
 
Come on, no one wants to unleash ancient Brythonic demigods onto the modern world? Just think of the klaxons that would sound in the Hidden Halls of Edinburgh? The Council might not even remember what those are for. :V

Seriously though, that is some backup you guys can get against the likes of the Black Council and Nemesis, assuming you can keep it under control and... deal with the fallout.
 
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[X] Why should the doors stay closed when there is so much wrong in the world, why should heroes sleep until the end of days? Offer to walk to the gate and break it with brass that all will be free to range as they will


Free them, slay them, whatever.

Eternal prisons are bullshit and should be broken on principle.
 
So... Solar Arthur?

[X] Learn more. Why should the heroes of the land be barred from returning? Whose will is it that bids them to be bound? What consequences of their return
-[X] Etiquette excellency
-[X] Use the Crown on the current scene to find what the prisoners are planning to do if they are freed
-[X] Lydia uses Akashic Root Methodology to learn more about the prisoners
 
[X] Offer to strengthen the door that leads to the prison of the three and onto Arthur's return from Avalon


I know there are people who want this but, for the love of God, NO.

Their desire is to prevent this, are we going to get into a fight with the people we came here to look for? Instead, how about we use our skills to fulfill their and Saint David's wishes, so we can take everyone with Lydia?
Okay but who is Saint David to decide that. Obviously God doesn't have a problem with the dead living before Judgment Day rolls around. There are multiple resurrections in the Bible and Dresden himself brings himself literally back to life.

Who is Saint David other than apparently a sanctimonious prick who just decided hey if you can bring yourself to life don't actually because my particular interpretation of our shared religion says you cannot and should not do that.

We should take the ones who are wary and leave if Saint David wanted this seal so bad then he should have done something worthwhile so he's here to keep that shit. Fucking really deciding who gets to resurrect themselves fuck off.

[X] Just take with you what hounds had grown weary of their task

[X] Yog


[X] Why should the doors stay closed when there is so much wrong in the world, why should heroes sleep until the end of days? Offer to walk to the gate and break it with brass that all will be free to range as they will
 
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[X] Offer to strengthen the door that leads to the prison of the three and onto Arthur's return from Avalon.

The delicious, delicious irony of a Princess of the Green Sun reinforcing the bars of an ancient prison to keep an exalted hero-king trapped.
 
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Even if he isn't actually exalted, Arthur is probably in that weight class, being one of the mythic figures the exalted were based on out of character.
 
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