Gems in the Wastes (Exalted/Warhammer Fantasy/CK2)

On top of that the worst plagues are magical, penicillin isn't going to do anything to them.
If I could play devil's advocate here (though I'm not trying to lean the votes one way or another), that route is also the Solar Healing path in general, not just antibiotics. It covers more ends than just 1 specific kind of medication.
 
If I could play devil's advocate here (though I'm not trying to lean the votes one way or another), that route is also the Solar Healing path in general, not just antibiotics. It covers more ends than just 1 specific kind of medication.

Yeah and to be clear I am not trying to dis healing, the hands of the king are the hands of a healer, good PR and all that, but being able to teach entirely new forms of magic well also opens up world changing vistas without focusing on Nurgle and the Horned Rat in its Plague form
 
[X] Plan Magic Revolution

How will you be handling training charms? A Solar with the right training charms can turn large numbers of people into utter elites very quickly.
 
[X] Plan: Solars and Demons
-[X] Secrets and hidden meanings slipped past you like water around rocks (Intrigue)
-[X] Sword (Melee)
-[X] Compassion
-[X] become overwhelming (+1)
-[X] You were able to instruct a class of five random children from all walks of life, with all of them becoming Sorcerers in their own right. (Occult)
-[X] First Circle Demon
-[X] Second Circle Demon
I refuse to let piety to be lost stat, not in Exalted when dealing with gods is a fucking job that pays beyond what people know at least in nature. And we are also in fucking warhammer, what are you people thinking?
 
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How will you be handling training charms? A Solar with the right training charms can turn large numbers of people into utter elites very quickly.
Admittedly not sure yet. If I remember correctly Tiger Warrior Training is only a week's worth of time per squad? With turns taking 3 months, that's a lot of potential squads that can be upgraded. I might put a limit on it in the form of "Sango has to do refresher courses with the troops every so often, restricting how many squads he can keep re-training at once."

[] Plan: Solars and Demons
Are you looking to get approval from me first? Just asking because there's no X's in the brackets.
 
[x] Plan: Antimatter Legion
- [x] A bronze skin athletic man with white hair and gold eye, wearing a regalia made of leopard skins. Some parts of his body, mainly his arms, released black smoke.
-[X] If you had any respect for the gods, you certainly didn't demonstrate it (Piety)
-[X] Sword (Melee)
-[X] Compassion
-[X] -fade (0)
-[X] You were able to instruct a class of five random children from all walks of life, with all of them becoming Sorcerers in their own right. (Occult)
- [x] First Circle Demon
- [x] Magma Kraken

I love fire. We should have more fire in our life.
 
Can we please just not fuck ourselves over with gods in a setting with both warhammer and Exalted? Like fucking why?
 
Can we please just not fuck ourselves over with gods in a setting with both warhammer and Exalted? Like fucking why?
Chill. It's just how we started out - we'll have advisers and there's time to rebuild Piety. To use the grand example of Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism, Freddy had a dump stat of Piety and managed fine enough until he had character development.
 
The way god-hood works in Warhammer makes me concerned that if the people of new Uluiru worship Sango and unwittingly graft him into the cosmic war between the Order Gods and Chaos Gods, regardless of his consent.
 
All I will say is that having decent piety might give you options when it comes to deciding who the main "God" of the pantheon. And it might not always be the best choice for that God to be you. Then again, I could make plenty of arguments for the other stats as well.
 
The way god-hood works in Warhammer makes me concerned that if the people of new Uluiru worship Sango and unwittingly graft him into the cosmic war between the Order Gods and Chaos Gods, regardless of his consent.

What eternal war? The gods of 'Order' are not conceptually opposed to Chaos, they are pragmatically opposed to being eaten which we should be too. The Gods of Law are the ones who represent the opposing concept.
 
Chill. It's just how we started out - we'll have advisers and there's time to rebuild Piety. To use the grand example of Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism, Freddy had a dump stat of Piety and managed fine enough until he had character development.
Yeah expert we are also a Exatled which is something Freddy was not, and we are going to be calling up demons to help kill deamons to help us given piety will help deal with them as well.
 
Expect that isn't what piety is? Pirty is also making of shrines, and having shrines to some of the Yozi's soul-hierarchy is honestly worth it because you can get your demons back faster and make use of them.

I do not think it is, I mean they are better than Chaos (pretty much anything is) and we can work with them and we can work with them in a highly regulated manner, but they are still creatures of spite and tyranny that no one should be emulating.
 
[X] Plan: Solars and Demons
-[X] Secrets and hidden meanings slipped past you like water around rocks (Intrigue)
-[X] Sword (Melee)
-[X] Compassion
-[X] become overwhelming (+1)
-[X] You were able to instruct a class of five random children from all walks of life, with all of them becoming Sorcerers in their own right. (Occult)
-[X] First Circle Demon
-[X] Second Circle Demon
 
I do not think it is, I mean they are better than Chaos (pretty much anything is) and we can work with them and we can work with them in a highly regulated manner, but they are still creatures of spite and tyranny that no one should be emulating.
Ehhh, I mean not really given my point isn't emulating as you call it. My point is to make use of their nature as spirits to let them reform faster and call them back so they can work with us. Like its kind of easy and how demons/exalted spirits work. Also piety works that way, its called to work that way in the first post. I can go grab it if you like?
 
Ehhh, I mean not really given my point isn't emulating as you call it. My point is to make use of their nature as spirits to let them reform faster and call them back so they can work with us. Like its kind of easy and how demons/exalted spirits work. Also piety works that way, its called to work that way in the first post. I can go grab it if you like?

The immaculates do that, formalize prayer and worship such that the gods can still function but they do not gain power over mortals. It does work... on the Blessed Isle, it works less in the Threshold where unregulated prayer is common. And this is with Terrestrial gods that are at worst greedy and venal. Yozis have an agenda. I do not think we want the populate exposed to that. Keep it formal, keep is sorcerous and keep the bindings on the demons, that is why they are demons.
 
The immaculates do that, formalize prayer and worship such that the gods can still function but they do not gain power over mortals. It does work... on the Blessed Isle, it works less in the Threshold where unregulated prayer is common. And this is with Terrestrial gods that are at worst greedy and venal. Yozis have an agenda. I do not think we want the populate exposed to that. Keep it formal, keep is sorcerous and keep the bindings on the demons, that is why they are demons.
Demons are also unlike a lot of things beings, willing to trade and deal. Like, you are denying the free will demons do have. That they are shown to have, they are part of the Yozi but they are also being with their own will. Or charms that allowed them to be turned into gods wouldn't work. Which is a Sid charm and not a Solar true. But it gives an example. Your pushing way too hard not no piety anyway of your using this as your case.
 
Demons are also unlike a lot of things beings, willing to trade and deal. Like, you are denying the free will demons do have. That they are shown to have, they are part of the Yozi but they are also being with their own will. Or charms that allowed them to be turned into gods wouldn't work. Which is a Sid charm and not a Solar true. But it gives an example. Your pushing way too hard not no piety anyway of your using this as your case.

Demons do not have free will, the Yozis have a bad history with free will, they would never make something that could betray them again. The reasons demons are willing to make deals, the reason sorcery works on them at all is the Surrender Oaths.
 
[X] Plan: Fuck Nurgle

Can we please just not fuck ourselves over with gods in a setting with both warhammer and Exalted? Like fucking why?

I mean, as a Solar, our bonus on Piety actions will remain higher than most mortals even if we have low Piety relative to our other stats. Like...a Solar with Piety 10 can add the same bonus to Piety-based rolls as a mortal with Piety 20. We may not be the most devout, but we're powerful and forceful enough that the Gods will listen anyway.
 
[X] Plan Magic Revolution

On the one hand, this is pretty solid and in line with what I'd like to see.
On the other hand, Death of Obsidian Butterflies.
Bah, Invulnerable Skin of Bronze is good insurance for a fledling Sorcerer, and will keep us alive to learn the rest later.

As for our appearance, we are going with a god-king from not-quite-West-Africa, who wields sorcery and martial might, and whose name is S(h)ango... Dress him in red and white and give him a two-headed axe and we are pretty much all the way there.
 
Demons do not have free will, the Yozis have a bad history with free will,
Yes they fuck they do, what the hell are you talking about. DragonParadox your talking out of your ass now, because yes they hell they do. The very lore of Exalted works against you on this, because the very lore shows they have free will. Infernal Exalted partners would of considered Hero's if they weren't demons. Something that is in their very lore.
Critian Caceorte how about you make this clear? Because I would rather it be made clear here.
I mean, as a Solar, our bonus on Piety actions will remain higher than most mortals even if we have low Piety relative to our other stats. Like...a Solar with Piety 10 can add the same bonus to Piety-based rolls as a mortal with Piety 20. We may not be the most devout, but we're powerful and forceful enough that the Gods will listen anyway.
I would rather we not be in the shitting with piety in a setting that has both warhammer and Exalted due to the fact they are are. Also most of the local gods will not use that powerful and forceful due to a list of reasons given they are warhammer gods.
 
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Yes they fuck they do, what the hell are you talking about. DragonParadox your talking out of your ass now, because yes they hell they do. The very lore of Exalted works against you on this, because the very lore shows they have free will. Infernal Exalted partners would of considered Hero's if they weren't demons. Something that is in their very lore.


I would rather we not be in the shitting with piety in a setting that has both warhammer and Exalted due to the fact they are are. Also most of the local gods will not use that powerful and forceful due to a list of reasons given they are warhammer gods.

I have to write something, for a quest. I'll pull up some quotes from that Second Edition Malfeas book as soon as I am done. In the meantime though can you think of any instance of a demon betraying their patron? Not try to change their patron or fight other demons? Actively work against the goal of freeing themselves say.
 
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