Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

If we created a city god for Chicago it could probably impower SI as well.
Should we invite Murphy to that birthday party or should we spring it on her after the fact?

Also if we make a city god of Chicago does paying taxes count as a act of veneration to it? Also any civic festival.

With Olivia's higher purpose we have to have her talk to Murphy.
OOC: To answer the question yes Hellweaving you grant can technically harm you, Molly does not have enough controll of her higher self to turn off th faucet dymanically. She either strips the power entirely or she has to take the hits. Thankfully she soaked everything this time around.
Did Molly feel the payment of demon ki being sacrificed to her? At the very least I don't think that it should take her by surprise.
 
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Unfortunately if Murphy and SI were to swear loyalty to Molly that is very problematic with their intimacies and job. Unless Molly gets herself or someone who works for her elected Mayor or similar position.
Which is exactly why I am saying that we shouldn't sell IDU as "only if you swear yourself to me".
Won't enlightenment be a better alternative to IDU? It's nowhere near as powerful to start with but it is much more flexible and has an added bonus of not risking to reenact Jekyll and Hyde.
I am fairly sure that enlightenment is actually a much bigger deal here than IDU. If we are talking about the same thing. Because enlightenment is becoming an essence manipulator. And essence manipulation is a big thing in the modern world.
@Yog When it comes to street level crime the police are more hampered by a lack of knowledge then power. A well trained mortal with a gun able to call backup is actually fairly threatening to most street monsters. The problem is escalation. Most street level monsters answer to some higher power who the cops can't deal with.

Basically if we empower SI and organize them it turns into a war rather than just better policing.

Edit: To be clear maybe we can empower them enough to win that war, but it would be a war. Unless say we use a fairy favor to get a Queen to publicly acknowledge that Mortal police have the authority to enforce mortal law as they are charged to do my the taxes payers.
That's... arguable, actually. This assumes that SI will expand the range of their police activity in proportion to their capabilities, causing escalation. But we actually know that there's a whole community of practitioners, wildfae, and spirits in the city whose crimes / troubles are small time with little to no escalation potential. Yes, lack of knowledge is a limitation. But so is lack of capability. Yes, a mortal with a gun (possibly with special ammunition) likely can stop a minor magical criminal. But only (mostly) lethally. They are too human limited for other courses of action.
 
Which is exactly why I am saying that we shouldn't sell IDU as "only if you swear yourself to me".
Awakening uncontrolled po souls in police officers is almost certain to lead to all sorts of terrible abuses of power. Also I think they would need to eat human flesh to recharge their ki. Being able to absorb ki from the air is a result of high level control*.

I said that you could ignore most the KODE character creation rules because of MIS, but they become very relevant without it.

*Olivia is likely to visit Last Station fairly frequently now. She can recharge without it, but a dragon nest makes things far faster.
 
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We don't want to use IDU on people without the benefits of Mercy in Servitude though.

Awakened Po is a curse, not a blessing for most purposes, we are just supressing most of the bad parts.
Maybe we could get access to soul disciplines somehow? There are a few for defining variably healthy relationships across the Hun-Po divide.

The two parts of a soul make one person, they're supposed to work together. It seems reasonable to me that a major part of the problem is how Pos usually wake up and the Hun's reaction when unaware of what's going on. With a controlled awakening and a proper understanding of what to expect I think they should be able to work together in a much healthier way.

I get that they're supposed to be the part of humanity that touches on the demonic, but I find the idea that the human soul is incapable of healthy operation without one half absolutely dominating the other distasteful.
 
The best idea for how to organize a police force is literally Molly's world. Why don't we start with a program for exchanging experience and laws. This is what countries usually do. We are the head of the country, not just a powerful player with powers. Delegate!

Of course, our world doesn't deal with a bunch of uncontrollable factions and masquerade, but maybe a fresh perspective from the world of open magic will help them. For example, like with alchemy!
 
I am fairly sure that enlightenment is actually a much bigger deal here than IDU. If we are talking about the same thing. Because enlightenment is becoming an essence manipulator. And essence manipulation is a big thing in the modern world.
It's a big thing, yes, but character wise you don't need a lot of Will and to deal with your bestial side every day.
 
Awakening uncontrolled po souls in police officers is almost certain to lead to all sorts of terrible abuses of power. Also I think they would need to eat human flesh to recharge their ki. Being able to absorb ki from the air is a result of high level control*.

I said that you could ignore most the KODE character creation rules because of MIS, but they become very relevant without it.

*Olivia is likely to visit Last Station fairly frequently now. She can recharge without it, but a dragon nest makes things far faster.
Which is why for SI fomorization is a better option. But IDU can also provide that. Mutations, of the kind Uju's plan was made of.
 
Which is why for SI fomorization is a better option. But IDU can also provide that. Mutations, of the kind Uju's plan was made of.
Yes that would work better. However we might want to start with the Alphas. They are already doing street level supernatural policing and it doesn't have the same sort of escalation problems. Also fomorization rules were obviously made with werewolves in mind so it is much easer to find mutations that work with their existing abilities.
 
Awakening uncontrolled po souls in police officers is almost certain to lead to all sorts of terrible abuses of power. Also I think they would need to eat human flesh to recharge their ki. Being able to absorb ki from the air is a result of high level control*.

I said that you could ignore most the KODE character creation rules because of MIS, but they become very relevant without it.

*Olivia is likely to visit Last Station fairly frequently now. She can recharge without it, but a dragon nest makes things far faster.

You generally don't need to respire demon chi from an external source, the P'o spontaneously regenerates it over time.

Wan Kuei with transhuman enlightenment can get additional demon chi from defiled dragon neats, but that's a hazardous practice for them.

Dhampyrs can eat flesh to recharge their Yin and Yang Chi faster, but that's because of their half-damned nature as children of the Hungry Dead.
 
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You generally don't need to respire demon chi from an external source, the P'o spontaneously regenerates it over time.

Wan Kuei with transhuman enlightenment can get additional demon chi from defiled dragon neats, but that's a hazardous practice for them.
1. I said that she can recharge without it.
2. This is a basically a Akuma.
 
However we might want to start with the Alphas.
I doubt Alphas would agree. Not in the next year at least. They are very suspicious of Molly. They are wrong in their conclusions but they have good reasons for them. And I don't think giving out IDU to people who are not already working for Molly is a good idea - MIS being the main reason for that but you can come up with a lot of others too.
 
[X] Tell the Order that Olivia has been empowered through a combination of intense training to develop her natural talents and a spiritual boon you were able to bestow upon her. Such boons are not trivially granted, nor are they freely given, as earning that power requires one to enter our service.
 
I doubt Alphas would agree. Not in the next year at least. They are very suspicious of Molly. They are wrong in their conclusions but they have good reasons for them. And I don't think giving out IDU to people who are not already working for Molly is a good idea - MIS being the main reason for that but you can come up with a lot of others too.
I think that we could convince them with some Exalted empathy/leadership rolls and a good PowerPoint presentation.
 
Olivianoids might actually be in a really good place for balancing with their Pos after a fashion.

That higher purpose she has is something her Hun chose, but became something more through the empowerment of her Po. That implies to me that it's something it's come to be invested in too; a point where they're in perfect alignment.

Not all of them will necessarily have the same drive, but if having one is part of the build then it could be a cornerstone to hold their soul together.

A sleeping po is working in harmony. It's not completely dominated every time someone gets hungry, sleepy or horny the Po is exercising influence.
It's also not really aware of what's going on. Being unable to be conscious and harmonious at the same time implies some things about the relationship.
 
That is an interesting thought... would a mayor be 'in charge' enough of the local police to trigger MiS? I am inclined to say no since technically the police does not answer to the mayor in anything but funding, the mayor cannot formally tell a police officer what to investigate on the basis of their obligations of an officer of the law. I think the D.A. might do it if you want to go to something local.
How many dots of background is being a District Attorney? Of course even if it's only a single dot you are still going to need a few dots in law to be a competent District Attorney. Still something to think about for VEE.
 
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