Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

If you were to split the one question in Goldfish's vote into two you would get something along the lines of- "Who planned Ken's murder" and "Who killed Ken". Neither of which would be valid questions if he isn't dead and no one actually planned to kill him to start with. So both could easily be Nulls leaving us mostly where we started.

To possibly save time by lowering the risk of Nulls I suggest doing this instead. Gonna steal part of your vote @Yog.

[X] Use your Crown
-[x] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
-[x] Focus-Letter written by Ken: Where are those responsible for Ken Mayeda's missing status located?


The second part should lead us to more focuses at least.
 
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Why investigate the crime scene like a plebian without limited omniscience instead of using the Crown to cut out the middleman?
Because I like playing detective and we might get some contextual clues that we wouldn't think to ask about from a distance.

The Crown is perfect, but limited to answering what we want to know. It won't surprise us with how things might be more complicated than expected.
 
Because I like playing detective and we might get some contextual clues that we wouldn't think to ask about from a distance.

The Crown is perfect, but limited to answering what we want to know. It won't surprise us with how things might be more complicated than expected.
Fair but I don't think taking longer than we need to is a good idea here considering this is time sensitive and we already stopped to spend 3 days training and for Rosie's birth. Meanwhile Nemesis has reason to believe Molly would be after him since our outing in Summer.

The Crown surprises us with context and complications we weren't aware of beforehand all the time. It's unlikely we would need more than what our enemies current plans are and where they are located to stop them.
 
If you were to split the one question in Goldfish's vote into two you would get something along the lines of- "Who planned Ken's murder" and "Who killed Ken". Neither of which would be valid questions if he isn't dead and no one actually planned to kill him to start with. So both could easily be Nulls leaving us mostly where we started.

To possibly save time by lowering the risk of Nulls I suggest doing this instead. Gonna steal part of your vote @Yog.

[X] Use your Crown
-[x] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
-[x] Focus-Letter written by Ken: Where are those responsible for Ken Mayeda's missing status located?


The second part should lead us to more focuses at least.

Just to be clear, this would get you the plans they have at the moment. Free will is a thing, if at some point between now and 24 hours later they should change those plans, say because of something Molly and Co do or are seen to be doing the info would no longer match.
 
[X] Use your Crown
-[X] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
-[X] Focus-Letter written by Ken: Where are those responsible for Ken Mayeda's missing status located?

[X] Travel to the Venetian Canals where one murder took place, perhaps a second also
 
[X] Use your Crown
-[x] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
-[x] Focus-Letter written by Ken: Where are those responsible for Ken Mayeda's missing status located?
 
Ok, and again, sorry for the wait. Let's try this.

[X] Plan Investigative steps
-[X] Use the Crown
--[x] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
--[X] using the letter: "Where can I find the body of the person to whom this letter was addresssed?"
--[X] using the bullet: "what was the ultimate reason this bullet was fired?"
-[X] Ask to take the rat's skull with you, "to commune with its spirit"
--[X] After some time passes, use the skull to ask "the full list of beings responsible for this rat being sent to Kenneth Mayeda
-[X] Travel to the Venetian Canals where one murder took place, perhaps a second also
--[X] Use the travel to regenerate essence by RVD, after giving your companions the information you obtain via the Crown


Ok, here's my stab at it:
1) First question tells us the plans of whoever is responsible for murders / kidnapping + murder. Even if there are several of them. Twenty four hours means that they likely have to sleep in that time, so, we would at least learn where to catch them when they sleep.

2) The second question gives us the location of the body, dead or alive. This gives us more clues to follow

3) The bullet gives us the motives, whether it's a setup or whatever.

4) The rat we take with them - Lydia could plausibly be able to commune with its spirit to gain information, and it clearly was magically controlled. Using it as a focus for mortal divination is not impossible, so this doesn't disclose the crown. It's the most safe thing to take. We don't ask question now, leaving one mote in reserve before anima flare.

5) We travel to the scene of the crime, while regenerating essence and letting professional investigator Dresden work through the info we feed him.

Unless anyone has any better ideas?
 
Actually, @DragonParadox , real question: let's say that Lydia raises a zombie using someone's corpse using Command the Dead. Does the zombie retain any access to the knowledge the body possessed? For the sake of the argument let's assume that Molly is using Source Code Compliance Protocol so there are no communication barriers.
 
Actually, @DragonParadox , real question: let's say that Lydia raises a zombie using someone's corpse using Command the Dead. Does the zombie retain any access to the knowledge the body possessed? For the sake of the argument let's assume that Molly is using Source Code Compliance Protocol so there are no communication barriers.

No just the basic functionality of a zombie, the soul is gone to its next step, whatever that may be
 
[] Plan All Seeing
[] Use your Crown
-[] On the bullet. Who fired this?
-[] On the rat. Who was your master?
--[] If the answer to those questions are different.
-[] On the note. Who made you dissappear?
---[] If the answer to those questions are same or the Black court vampire.
-[] On the note. Where is the one who made you dissappear?

To note every scene we spend here that we are trying to stealth we have to spend two Essence one on an etiquette Excellency so we can score the anywhere from 4 to possible 10 successes so we can skate by unnoticed despite being a cloud of corruption in a major city using Anonymity Through Propriety which costs us another essence.

The urge to investigate I imagine is strong but one this isn't what we came here for two we can chase this through a chain and be done within the day if we use the crown and recharge while still being stealthy but if we spend hours investigating we are going to be burning Essence and risking being seen in general which could scare our initial Target and put all other possible Targets on alert.

These questions especially the ones about who made him disappear is going to give a list of names from the person who wrote the note to the person who shot at him to intimidate him to the person who made his body or is preventing him from being found at this moment as well as the vampire these people had to have someone who could walk in broad daylight that could position themselves to fire through his window. They also had to be someone who could walk into his apartment at night and murder his bed fellow now whether these individuals are the same isn't actually particularly important because we have cyber Devils if they were walking around in broad daylight in Las Vegas they would definitely seen on camera and if we have their name we can definitely search them.

This is completely discounting the fact that these questions might literally just allow us to find and kill the black vampire to begin with without needing to chase anyone or possibly blow our cover in Las Vegas. Then we can use the scene or the lair of the black vampire to figure out what it was doing here using the crown we can use the unused focus in that instance to find out who he was working with.
 
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Votes are pretty scattered at the moment, but I have some time to write so in the meantime lets check in on Lucio in light of recent events.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jan 1, 2024 at 10:15 AM, finished with 42 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] Use your Crown
    -[X] Who was involved in planning and committing the murder of Ken Mayeda?
    [X] Plan Investigative steps
    -[X] Use the Crown
    --[x] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
    --[X] using the letter: "Where can I find the body of the person to whom this letter was addresssed?"
    --[X] using the bullet: "what was the ultimate reason this bullet was fired?"
    -[X] Ask to take the rat's skull with you, "to commune with its spirit"
    --[X] After some time passes, use the skull to ask "the full list of beings responsible for this rat being sent to Kenneth Mayeda
    -[X] Travel to the Venetian Canals where one murder took place, perhaps a second also
    --[X] Use the travel to regenerate essence by RVD, after giving your companions the information you obtain via the Crown
    [X] Travel to the Venetian Canals where one murder took place, perhaps a second also
    [X] Use your Crown
    -[x] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
    -[x] Focus-Letter written by Ken: Where are those responsible for Ken Mayeda's missing status located?
    [X] Plan All Seeing
    [X] Use your Crown
    -[X] On the bullet. Who fired this?
    -[X] On the rat. Who was your master?
    --[X] If the answer to those questions are different.
    -[X] On the note. Who made you dissappear?
    ---[X] If the answer to those questions are same or the Black court vampire.
    -[X] On the note. Where is the one who made you dissappear?
    [X] Use your Crown
    -[x] Using the scene as the focus: "What are the plans of the perpetrators of the events talked about here for the next twenty four hours?"
    -[x] Focus-Letter written by Ken: Where are those responsible for Ken Mayeda's missing status located?
    [X] Travel to the Venetian Canals where one murder took place, perhaps a second also
 
Arc 11 Interlude 5: Of Whiskey and Worries
Of Whiskey and Worries

12th of January 2007 A.D.

Anastasia Luccio was not, as the youth put it, a happy camper and it was in no small part thanks to the riffle in front of her, this sleek thing of brass and coils, arcane arrays and bottled spirits. The problem was not any short-coming on the part of the device or the slowly awakening minor demon inside of it, quite the opposite, the light of gas lanterns shone on a thing out of a thing out of the imaginings of H. G. Wells, though unlike in those fictional works there would be no convenient deus ex machina to save the powers of earth from an army out of the Thousandth and First Hell. The reports had made for an exceedingly worrying reading even without Donald's little 'exercise of imagination'

Given the limitations of transport into and out of her domain it would take Miss Carpenter proximately a month to draw enough forces to establish a military beachhead in a defensible but easily expanded upon position like Iceland where she could tap the ley lines to empower hybrid techno-sorcerous workings of the sort which the Council has never encountered, but all too familiar to the earliest writings of the Hermetics. Magic and the machine are converging as they have not done in all the time since the flight of the Hermetic Circle to Egypt.

Morgan, rational, practical Donald Morgan, the man who in their shared youth had been called 'about as mystical as a block of chalk that's only used to write out algebra' had effectively delivered a doomsday prophecy even as he had supported the Merlin's ex cathedra decision to seek alliance with Sanctuary.

"The problem isn't the girl, it is what she represents..." Anastasia whispered to herself, an argument made loud enough to cause the vaults of the the Hall of Glass shake. "As above so below."

Nestled among many philosophical principles passed on by the old and often given only lips service to newly ascended wizards of the Council was the idea that the Nevernever was a tilted mirror, it reflected the physical world yes, but due to the angle at which it rested it often reflected aspects of the changing world before those had become material manifest, the same principle that allowed prophetic spirits to exist writ impossibly large, too large in fact for any one mortal wizard to guess as to the pattern, but if one were to gather the wisdom of many....

The Warden Captain poured herself a glass of aged whiskey, downed it, then swayed. "Porca miseria!!" she cursed her new weak eyes and she cursed Corpsetaker and she cursed Ancient Mai for being the one to ask her if she was alright today when they all knew damn well she wasn't and that she had to be. The war didn't wait for the frailties her own folly had inflicted upon her.

The elderly wizard had not even been smug about being the one to warn about the danger of Mikaboshi claim to the hell of 'Wicked City'. It had been a problem 'of the Wu Lung', the troubles of the east often strange but rarely deadly, certainly not compared to the peril red in tooth and claw that was the Red Court. Yet here they were, the spirit of the age was industry reflected in the works of rising powers.

Not that the White Council was a stranger to powers arising seemingly from nowhere. From their perspective the rise of the Christian Church persecuted eastern cult to one of movers an shakers of the world mundane and spiritual had been frightfully swift. The stacks here in Edinburgh still held tomes brought over from Rome and even Alexandria before it filled with the terrified revelations of wizards who had borne witness to the birth of an Age of Faith. At least compared to them the present council was better off, they had not fallen to infighting and myopic political games, seeking secular power, but that was a low bar indeed to step over.

The news from Avalon had come in the middle of a heated debate on how much manpower they should put towards the study of changes to the tides of magic in the middle of a war. Miss Carpenter had done the... highly improbable again and gained not one but three grand favors of Summer enough to restart questions on it she were planning to make a move to expand her power into the material world under cover of such favors spent.

Whatever the result of the newest round of talks Anastasia would be drinking a lot more before the week was out.

OOC: Some more hints as to what the ages of this world look like and when the cut off was as well as a bit on the history of the Council and its predecessor.
 
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Don't worry luccio i sincerely doubt we could ever vote to spend those favours.


But if they are up for discussion my vote will be to spend a winter and/or summer one to acquire control of most of the tech sector as prep for the internet god, which hopefully won't be build using holdens stupid system.
 
Is the ancient Hermetic Circle and their hybrid techno-sorcery something from canon DF I'm not aware of, or is it a WoD import? Or something entirely new?
 
They are right that at this point if we wanted to conquer the world we could make a very solid go at it.
 
They are right that at this point if we wanted to conquer the world we could make a very solid go at it.
And yet, they cannot guess at even a tenth of our already existing capability, much less of what we are growing into. Our first move wouldn't be to claim some out of the way place. It's likely to place the whole of Chicago under an absolute effect as we raise a Manse in there.
 
Because Infernals are still Solars and Solars have no concept of this odd thing called "common sense".
One he's talking about tactics there rather than sense. Two the common sense of a supernatural creature claiming territory is evident I guess for the lack of a better way of phrasing it. Three the common sense of beings of greater than mortal ability are distinctly different than that of regular humans simply because the reach and range of their abilities makes it so what is common sense for them doesn't make sense for us.
 
Don't worry luccio i sincerely doubt we could ever vote to spend those favours.
A favor is like a nuclear ICBM. It has its greatest power before it is launched because, until that shiny red button is pushed, it could strike anywhere. Just having them gives us terrifying weight.

I still want to either use them to either raise our standing with both parties simultaneously, nice and simple, but arguably just having them in our pocket has that passive effect.
 
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