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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Yes, I understand that, but the brain remains, and at least some parts of memory should correspond to the physical substrate. But ok.
Well, they are not common, so their sense is not common either. But, more seriously, what I meant was that the Council, despite entering (pre-)panic mode is still underestimating and misunderstanding us. If we wanted to setup in a remote area, it wouldn't be Iceland. It would probably be Mars, with artificial dragon nest generators to kickstart local thaumosphere.
There are almost certainly contingencies being developed for our expansion. Some of them probably feature nuclear weaponry and orbital bombardment. That's another reason why we should make the foothold in Chicago - it's harder to nuke us there without risking Demonreach and other important objects. The interlude indicates that we are on a timer - move too fast, and the Council panics too much and employs their doomsday arsenal (which they have to have), move too slowly and they or others develop strategic counter-measures.
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Assuming that we are setting up with the goal of establishing a foothold I think that the moon with it's closer distance and easily escaped gravity well would make more sense.
But for the purposes of establishing long term colonization Mars would be better because our people already have experience colonizing the frozen wastes which Mars is basically a much milder version of.
Yes, that's exactly why I went for Mars. I mean, Mars, or, better yet, Jovian system are fairly close to deep Wastes in terms of environment, with Wastes possibly being harder to survive in. So it should be possible to establish long-term settlements there. Depending on how magic works, with a number of splendors (5 dot ones that produce dragon nests) it might be possible to slowly start saturating / making local leylines. From there we would need to somehow build Ways between Earth and those settlements, but that should also be doable.
Moon is harder due to higher radiation (doable) and less atmosphere (harder). We should think of this long-term (as in a couple of years). Which is another point - our long-term is almost everyone's "blink of an eye", and no one seems to realize how fast we are progressing. Yes, we'll plateau at E5 for a long time, but in terms of development we'll still be advancing.
I wonder if we colonized Mars with or mostly Just inhabitants of our soul if the Nevernever on the other side of Mars would just become the five fold Court. Because we know there's no Nevernever where there are no people that's why they Nevernever doesn't extend out into empty space.
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fictionfan
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Of course if we want to establish space colonies Barren Waste Inflection plus 10 human sacrifices would be the quickest and most efficient way.
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That's very hard to do ethically. The best way to do it, I guess, would be to make 2 3-dot splendors with Second Coming root element that allows for 1 time resurrection. We could probably find some wizard who would let us to kill them for payment in mystical artifacts if we guaranteed resurrection.
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Interesting though. Maybe? I mean, if we made reality closer to Courts, it might help.
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Or say we get VEE and offer a few people on death row a wish.
No I just thought it might be comedic the thousand and second hell it's exactly like the thousand and first hell except it's under Mars.
Baron waste infliction doesn't actually do that it just is essentially physical and spiritual terraforming to match the hell. It isn't actually overlapping or bringing the hell into reality. Though I imagine making gates in those areas that are essentially completely perfect reflections is really easy but that's not the same thing.
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Well that is a bunch of very certainly said information with no equivocation despite not actually being said anywhere on the charm. What is your source of information WOG somewhere?
If the character knows The King and the Kingdom, she may pay 5 Essence during a sacrifice. Doing so prevents the wasteland from growing, and instead transforms it, bit by bit, into a physical incarnation of her inner Hell-realm. After one such sacrifice, the wasteland displays only subtle touches of the Infernal's Kingdom, but after ten such blasphemies, it becomes a perfect Hell on Earth. The sacrifice of a supernatural being is worth five lesser sacrifices for this purpose.
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But that might be me reading too much into the actual wording but that might have been word of God in this quest to the contrary.
Incarnation means to take on a concrete or metaphysical embodiment of a thing it is not actually being the thing. Someone being evil incarnate does not actually make them the concept of evil. The land being transformed into an incarnation of our hell does not actually make it our hell.
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fictionfan
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Sorry misunderstood what you were going for. My meaning was that using Barren Waste Inflection could basically quick build entire copies of our inner cities.
Wasn't really talking about making a gate.
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Oh then the misunderstanding went both ways because I did partially understand you but I read too much into it cuz I thought you meant spiritually as well.
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Actually not sure what the actual boundaries between physical and spiritual would be in this case and we aren't going to be getting any WOG unless we buy the charm. Personally I want the eternal suffering/life to transfer over.
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The White Council is the one institution that realizes Molly's current and future potential, which makes sense given Moly invited wizards into her soul-world. That excerpt from Donald was on-point: while Molly is not currently a supernatural faction by herself (kill her now and everything's fine!), give her a month and she could start role-playing a dimensional invader/extraterrestrial attacker. That is terrifying.
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We kinda are just with our current circle mates of the death god daughter and risen fallen angel. Anyone of us would be considered a big deal by ourselves, but all 3 of use makes a faction. A compact faction but one to take seriously.
After all the black council only has about twice as many members.
Also they can't be at all sure that killing Molly seals away her kingdom there could be all sorts of other results.
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We currently lack politicial agenda to be a faction. We are a high level adventuring party. I wonder when Harry, who canonically plays TTRPGs will make the connection that he's now a member of a real life adventuring party.
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I am sure we could stat him out as a barbarian if he wants.
They don't control the tech sector though. The results of that ask would be something like a sharp spike in fey predation on people in the industry and their families to gain us that control.
Not something we want to be responsible for.
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I don't really know what sort of favors the summer court is good for. Winter court is easy point at enemies you want to suffer. I guess in many cases using both a summer and winter favor on the same thing amplifies the effects since they will not auto oppose each other like normal.
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That is true do you think all the mortal magical practice that the summer Court can acquire at reasonable price and currently possesses would be within the ranks of a grand favor because I do and I get the distinct feeling the courts are in possession of lore near unending.
Though this is what the understanding that grand favors are capable of launching Wars that they have to fight so that is the orientation I'm on but that may be false.
Wasn't it three?
Or was it meant to be two in the older chapter and the three was a typo?
Probably, but it seems like a waste. We probably wouldn't even really want to personally use most of it and teaching other people is very time consuming because mortals don't learn at quest relevant speeds for the most part.
I'm of the opinion that it's better to use them for something specific rather than shot in the dark power grabs. Things that achieve what'd otherwise be out of practical reach.
Get their sorcerer-smiths to make us an item, collect legendary reagents, some types of broad institutional stuff like putting a thumb on the scale of their post-masquerade behavior*, conquer a small nevernever nation to shape into an extension of our domain, stuff like that.
* This one could be very important, and is worth keeping a favor in reserve for by itself. The exact phrasing would need a lot of work, but getting both courts to agree on a particular approach and to push for everyone else to tow it too would make things a lot better for mortal civilization once the current order starts to detonate.