I mean Holden probably would not be down with getting an army of millions from your hell charm. Being able to custom design fomori is small potatoes next to that. The freebie conversion is more of a sticking point, I confess I did not read the rules for Horrors with any great care since I did not think you guys would ever make one of those. I don't really want to go back in my word on a design after giving the go ahead but looking at it @uju32 I think it might be worth it to bring it down to par if you are OK with it. It would be rather odd for Fomori to be strictly better mecahnically than Arcanums which are the result of proper exalted crafting.
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I mean Holden probably would not be down with getting an army of millions from your hell charm. Being able to custom design fomori is small potatoes next to that. The freebie conversion is more of a sticking point, I confess I did not read the rules for Horrors with any great care since I did not think you guys would ever make one of those. I don't really want to go back in my word on a design after giving the go ahead but looking at it @uju32 I think it might be worth it to bring it down to par if you are OK with it. It would be rather odd for Fomori to be strictly better mecahnically than Arcanums which are the result of proper exalted crafting.
So, how would "convert one type of available points to freebie points" work? Because that's, frankly, a can of worms, at least in my opinion. I can see myself using it to dump tetriary or even secondary ability points to get more freebie points for golem and other arcana builds, for example. Or dropping additional arcana features for merits.
On the matter of horrors - Lydia is our circlemate, and her charm works to animate zombies. I am fairly sure that you have previously ruled that her charm can be used to animate horrors. Which is one of the big reasons I was looking into them. And Tiffany has lore of flesh to do some tune ups. Necrotech is actually something we are likely to do.
I'm going to wait for @uju32 before I say anything definitive, like I said I don't like nerfing designs I already approved so I would like to hear what he has to say on the matter, but reducing the amount of freebie points one can convert from 15 to 7 would be the most straightforward way to bring things up to par.
I mean they are both worse than mages and solar can make them.
But that may be my dislike holdens system speaking.
While mages are strictly speaking better in terms of potential a bargain basement fomori will chew the face off a newly Awakened Mage unless the latter is specked for combat and rolls well. They are rather squishy at low levels
The vote is still neck to neck on this one, but it's been a while and I really need to get to writing if I am going to do something today so on we go, Vote closed.
It's actually more, at least in case of 5 dot horrors. At 5 dots you start at 1 dots at all attributes, and you get 3 dots for tetriary attributes (I'll assume that socials are tetriary). The horror special rule reads as "All Social Attribute dots may be traded in for an extra Arcana Feature, if desired. " So, at minimum, you are trading 6 dots of attributes for an arcana feature. I.e. 30 freebie points (assuming 1 to 1 conversion) for 7.
Arc 11 Post 36: Elixirs Brewed, Plans Refined
Elixirs Brewed, Plans Refined
12th of January 2007 A.D.
Over the next few days you find yourself doodling arcane formulas in the back of your notebooks, not a guardian per say, but a caretaker spirit invested in watching over little Amanda Lucia as she grows up, more than mortal in poise and wisdom, able to interface naturally with machines she would be able to send word of peril at once. It wouldn't be that hard to sell Rosie on the notion, the birth had been pretty hard on her and... It's only when you find yourself preparing a new batch of healing potions in the laboratory that it occurs to you that it might be best to stick to simpler fare at least for now. Thresholds would be troublesome and the presence of the Wilsons with whom Rosie still lives with at least until next month when you'll have the time to go apartment-hunting even more so.
Or as Isabela put it. "So let me see if I understand this, you want to make the baby, burbling, barely out of her mother baby an attendant demon? Don't get me wrong that sounds wicked, I wanna see it, but unless you're planning to enthral the parents—" she raises her hand to bat away the objection she had seen on your face "—which you probably aren't from previous indications it's probably better to stick to the basic hellish gift basket, not the deluxe one for the moment."
Augustus looks up from the tax filings he had been doing. "Amazing young lady, a suggestion that would lower the overall amount of chaos in your vicinity."
The younger vampire laughs and blows him a kiss. "Maybe I'm maximizing over a longer period. And anyway it's not chaos I'm after, mundane chaos is boring, I want to see more arcane marvels. You know like magic cyborgs, that is a scintillating addition to the city of Chicago even if none of them wanted to go clubbing with me..." You let the silence grow until she huffs. "It's good socializing experience!"
"Well then convince them of that, I'm not about the micromanage them." Unspoken are the words 'anymore than I do you'.
"Fine, fine," she huffs and settles back into the copy Fundamentals of Thaumic Engineering that she had asked Iris to download on a reading slate.
***
Operation 'get Rosie on her feet' starts with chi balancing tea to deal with the hormonal re-jiggering of no longer having a tenant in residence which seems to work great once she's no longer in danger of snorting up laughing from the perfectly factual description...
"I am going to get you for that Molly Carpenter!"
And finishes with actual healing potions to deal with the aches and pains of surgery. The only consequence of her pregnancy you can't do anything about is the weight gain and that does not need fixing. She'd been underweight before she got pregnant for reasons neither of you like thinking about.
"So," Rosie bounces out of bed, the last vial still in hand. "When are we... you know, moving out? Sorry if this is a rush or a bad time for you, but if I have to spend much longer inside this house. Mom's trying a little bit at least, but Jared's barely said two words to acknowledge me or Amada and my stepbrother's been asking questions that make me wish he'd do the same."
"Oh," you grimace. "He is just a kid.."
"I know, I know, no sense getting angry, but it still hurt to think about it when he asks 'but what's her last name gonna be?'. I'm just sick of having to tiptoe around it, of being measured and weighed and judged... I just wanna start over, or maybe just start, let all this be my weird and dark prelude."
When s Rosie moving out?
[] Next month, as soon as is reasonable after the birth
[] In two months, what Jared would prefer from what Rosie overheard
[] Three months, Rosie's mother would probably prefer this most, she the least
[] Write in
OOC: If you had gotten her an Arcanum or anything else obviously magical there would have been a default option for now with the requisite social rolls. You guys can still write it in if you like, just be aware that there will be questions.
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Tea
Healing potions
That first dot isn't something you buy, you just get it by default for being a character.
Tea
Healing potions
That first dot isn't something you buy, you just get it by default for being a character.
[X] Next month, as soon as is reasonable after the birth
So where are we planning to move to? Renting an apartment in a building we don't own sounds unpalatable since Molly will also live there but buying a house or an apartment building takes more time than that on paperwork alone. Even if it didn't we don't have time to manage it this month.
Would she be uncomfortable with staying in the FCF for a bit while we sort that out?
Also, very silly question but if we used SCCP on Amanda would her random baby screeches that you need to guess on solutions for come out as something understandable?
Do babies count as not sharing a language or not (yet) being capable of using them?
So where are we planning to move to? Renting an apartment in a building we don't own sounds unpalatable since Molly will also live there but buying a house or an apartment building takes more time than that on paperwork alone. Even if it didn't we don't have time to manage it this month.
Would she be uncomfortable with staying in the FCF for a bit while we sort that out?
Also, very silly question but if we used SCCP on Amanda would her random baby screeches that you need to guess on solutions for come out as something understandable?
Do babies count as not sharing a language or not (yet) being capable of using them?
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[X] Next month, as soon as is reasonable after the birth
She wants out asap? She gets out asap.
I do expect we are going to spend an AP on getting her situated and such, but that not a huge deal.
I can't recall, have we introduced Rosie to the Order of the Cauldron? If not, it's a obvious choice for an opportunity expand her social circle.
She wants out asap? She gets out asap.
I do expect we are going to spend an AP on getting her situated and such, but that not a huge deal.
I can't recall, have we introduced Rosie to the Order of the Cauldron? If not, it's a obvious choice for an opportunity expand her social circle.
[X] Next month, as soon as is reasonable after the birth
So where are we planning to move to? Renting an apartment in a building we don't own sounds unpalatable since Molly will also live there but buying a house or an apartment building takes more time than that on paperwork alone. Even if it didn't we don't have time to manage it this month.
Would she be uncomfortable with staying in the FCF for a bit while we sort that out?
Also, very silly question but if we used SCCP on Amanda would her random baby screeches that you need to guess on solutions for come out as something understandable?
Do babies count as not sharing a language or not (yet) being capable of using them?
I mean you have not talked to her about the whole 'I am queen of an alien world' thing, from what I recall. That would be a pretty steep adjustment period and on top of that her mother at least does care about her, even if relations are strained so having Rosanna literally fall off the face of the earth would be its own issue. On the other hand it would be as safe as anywhere Molly can take her, the only known route in and out is through her soul.
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[X] Next month, as soon as is reasonable after the birth
Rent an apartment quickly, then start on getting a properly owned house?
Rent an apartment quickly, then start on getting a properly owned house?
So where are we planning to move to? Renting an apartment in a building we don't own sounds unpalatable since Molly will also live there but buying a house or an apartment building takes more time than that on paperwork alone. Even if it didn't we don't have time to manage it this month.
Would she be uncomfortable with staying in the FCF for a bit while we sort that out?
Also, very silly question but if we used SCCP on Amanda would her random baby screeches that you need to guess on solutions for come out as something understandable?
Do babies count as not sharing a language or not (yet) being capable of using them?
1407 N Hoyne Ave, Chicago, IL 60622
9/18/2007Sold $2,466,250 built in 1885 should be on the market. A old home with strong threshold with land included to build mystical installations and room inside for a great library and alchemy lab and multiple people to just live inside of it.
We win the lottery then we have a fallback point for the order, an actual place that we can set up our own mystical infrastructure for Alchemy and any other mystical Pursuits we want to, we have a place to train Rosie and provide for Amanda it's close to the water so the first time someone attempts to kidnap them they hopefully try to escape via river rather than land so we can catch them immediately.
Hopefully Thomas with his connections to high Society can provide us with the needed Wheels to be greased so we can get the purchase on our way within a month.
I don't see why a baby wouldn't be able to speak using Source Code Compliance protocol. They are trying to convey meaning via sound even if that meaning is Mom please help I am in distress or help I'm uncomfortable or help I'm hungry.
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I'd worry a bit that this interferes with normal language-learning, which seems to be a pretty complicated process.
I'd kind of think it would be the opposite. Studies show that babies cry or make noises with the explicit purpose of getting the attention they feel they need being able to convey what you need whether it be imposed language or not is the intent of making sound in the first place.
Now I can see if you mean what if the child starts speaking in what is essentially old Realm that could be an issue yeah but how could that happen.
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And when her parents want to contact their daughter? visit their granddaughter?
No, it's better to have a residence in the normal world (something we'll also need soon anyway).
[X] Next month, as soon as is reasonable after the birth
I mean, that's the kinda sillyness that great games are about. And on this note, exalted training charms care nothing about the subject's age. We could have that baby be Dex 5, Occult 5 in a couple of months. I wonder how that would affect their development.Also, very silly question but if we used SCCP on Amanda would her random baby screeches that you need to guess on solutions for come out as something understandable?
Do babies count as not sharing a language or not (yet) being capable of using them?
As an intermediary measure, rent something near / above Dresden, refurbish it, and then start working on our own place of residence?
That or they get to justify spending freebies on the good merits with the fact their first word being in enochian/old realm.
More seriously, human brains have a lot of dedicated systems for recognizing and learning languages that are most active when we're young. I would be more surprised by it causing problems than I would be by it giving her an additional mother tongue. Even then only if we did it a lot.
Seriously though I cannot tell you guys what training Charms would do since Molly does not have any of them, but as for Source Code Compilation
*rolls dice*
It would do several things:
*rolls dice*
It would do several things:
- Make them more capable of magic in whatever direction they are inclined. Mechanically you can buy Numia for 1 XP less /level
- Allow them to craft rituals more efficiently, -2 DC to making a ritual, that is a natural part of knowing the language no matter what age you learned it at and...
- Gives them a chance to Enlightening their Essence, chance being the operative word, the mortal would be far more likely to immolate oneself in the flames of one's own soul, but some chance is still more than no chance
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