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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Yog said:
Well, using the burrowing owl form for a talisman is a private in-joke. I am not super attached to it - if you have a suggestion, I'm open to change on this one. I want to keep the triple chain of brass, gold and iron.

Also, as I understand it, iron won't hurt (to touch at least). The protection at least makes her no more vulnerable to it than a human.
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It would no longer hurt her to handle iron, no, just being stabbed with the pointy end.
 
[X] Tears of the Summer Lady

Yog's argument has the taste of potion syndrome in it where we keep stuff around even if we don't have to just because it might be useful down the line. No thanks. I get we may have complications with debts Summer owes us if we use a payment for a service rendered to render another service, but I want this to be well done, not just mathed out.
 
If using red vampire bodies as the material here is a stunt for crafting.
-[][stunt]"Bodies of those who forsook humanity yet filled with the blood of thousands of humans. You refine that blood in a 2 vats one of iron and the other gold. Then when nothing but blood iron remains you forge that into a figure of a burrowing owl which you feed the rest of the blood of forsaken humanity."

[X]Yog
 
[X] Tears of the Summer Lady
A square of plain white silk stained silver, the tears of an immortal mourning her lost mortality

The personnel meaning given to an object from someone who is morning being mortal is one of the most human things to feel. The resulting splendor would have that connection to the mortal condition intact. It might even represent Mollys concerns about being the demon empress and replacing the august personification of jade (gods name in wan quay books).
 
@Yog Wouldn't it make more sense to ask Arianna's head how she knew about Lash? Only a handfull of people shouldv'e been aware of that back then(not including the Angels obviously). Meanwhile you should be able to ask about the Aztec's with any RC focus.
 
BoredMan said:
@Yog Wouldn't it make more sense to ask Arianna's head how she knew about Lash? Only a handfull of people shouldv'e been aware of that back then(not including the Angels obviously). Meanwhile you should be able to ask about the Aztec's with any RC focus.
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I'm not sure if we could use any of the Red Court for Aztec divinity. Arianna's connection is definitely the strongest possible we have. Could you remind me what Arianna knew of Lash? I honestly don't remember her mentioning Lash.
 
Yog said:
Could you remind me what Arianna knew of Lash? I honestly don't remember her mentioning Lash.
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The fact that she even existed? IIRC Broken Seerer was originally offered Lash as payment for his mission. Its in one of the interludes I think. BS got mad over it saying how you can't pay him with the one he'd be killing.

I'll try and find it.

Edit: Arianna is the strongest we have for now as we continue to kill them I do expect us to run into more RC with Aztec relations.
 
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BoredMan said:
The fact that she even existed? IIRC Broken Seerer was originally offered Lash as payment for his mission. Its in one of the interludes I think. BS got mad over it saying how you can't pay him with the one he'd be killing.
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Fairly sure that was unsupported speculation that kept feeding on itself. I remember being frustrated about it.

And to be clear my theory about the White God being a Sidereal is also speculation. It has some support and isn't contradicted, but it's important to keep confidence levels for various theories in mind.
 
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@Yog Alright I found it. I forgot just how long Arc 8 was.
DragonParadox said:
Speak quickly Blood Whore, I have hunted your kind before, we share foes not loves."

The vampire laughs, as though the threat, or the notion that the tainted spirit had loves was the funniest thing it had heart all year, to be fair it might have been. "I offer you a chance to escape the bonds of your masters' parting curse Messenger, to devour a thing beyond them and upon thy throne unmoving to ascend..."

"You offer empty flattery!" the voice from the mound booms as something part serpentine, part leonine and part cephalopod starts to writhe out of the stones before it wraps around itself in a vaguely humanoid form. "Blood and Bone, soul and mind, these things I take as tribute, not in the form of your enemies loose in the world, but bound before me. Do you have this thing beyond my once-masters?"

There is silence but for the whisper of the wind and for a moment it seems as though the blood priestess' pride would overmaster her, but she smooths out the signs of anger upon her false face, speaking again in dulcet coaxing tones: "We have then for we are at war with the wizards of the white and not all whom we take are fit to join the dance macabre. There is another wizard we wish you to harry and to hunt... "
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It looks like it was mostly speculation but Lash would make the most sense here.
 
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Yog said:
But does Molly know to ask this question? If this was jn an interlude where Molly was not present, she would not know that Arianna knew.

Also, this might have referred to Harry being starborn
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It was a Crown question not an interlude, just press the up arrow on the quote. It's how we knew BS was after Dresden not us. You may be right about the Starborn thing tho.
 
Yog said:
Also, this might have referred to Harry being starborn
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It would still be worth asking. We should run into plenty more Aztec focuses because we know the RC are deeply involved with them and we will be more actively dealing with them sooner or later. If we want to know how Arianna knew Dresden was, a Starborn or host to Lash, this would be our best focus for that question period.
 
BoredMan said:
It was a Crown question not an interlude, just press the up arrow on the quote. It's how we knew BS was after Dresden not us. You may be right about the Starborn thing tho.
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BoredMan said:
It would still be worth asking. We should run into plenty more Aztec focuses because we know the RC are deeply involved with them and we will be more actively dealing with them sooner or later. If we want to know how Arianna knew Dresden was, a Starborn or host to Lash, this would be our best focus for that question period.
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It might even have referred to Molly and ner exaltation, I think. The initial offer at least, and then she bargained for Harry to be killed instead.

This would be a very high risk (in the sense of potentially wasting the focus) question, something like "how did Arianna learn about the thing she said to Broken Seeker would be able to free Broken Seeker from the curse of its former masters if consumed?", since we don't actually know what she referred to. Sorry, I think in this case I'm going to stay with my question. It offer high, but far more guaranteed payoff.
 
Rereading this quest it becomes clear just how many difficulties we face that would have been trivial if we had charms we buy later. Like the battle in the lake would have been so easy if we had boiling Seas mastery and Rendered Villain dispersal.

Also our trip in Mexico would have been so easy with
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Calling the Calibration Gate​
The sorcerer offers her Essence to the four points of the compass, then strikes the ground. When she straightens, an ancient, crumbling archway stands before her, granting passage into the otherworlds.
System: Spend 4 Essence and make an extended Intelligence + Occult roll (difficulty 7). Upon accumulating five successes, the Exalt summons a gateway which allows anyone who walks through it to pass into the Spirit World or even should they be so bold intoi the howling madness of Outside. The Calibration Gate remains present for a number of minutes equal to the sorcerer's Essence, at which point it vanishes as suddenly as it appeared.
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Incidentally adaptation of Calling the Calibration Gate has been added to the character sheet. A bit less flexible than I was hoping.

Also @DragonParadox intoi has an extra i.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Nov 21, 2023 at 2:24 PM, finished with 56 posts and 13 votes.
  • [X] Plan Exalted Effort
    -[X] Use two foci to make a 3 dot splendor (Mystically fortified Protection against Possession, Mind Control, and Iron)
    --[X] Head of Arianna Ortega (6th Generation Equivalent)
    --[X] Red Court Elder Corpse (7th generation equivalent)
    -[X] Use the foci for Crown questions before using them for crafting
    --[X] Arianna: Where are the gods that this one stolen from held?
    --[X] Red Court Elder: List of all covert Red Court agents
    -[X] STUNT: The form the charm takes under your hands is a that of a small, burrowing owl carved out of a single piece of bone, so intricate as to seem alive and ready to take flight at any moment. The talisman, and it is clear that this is more than a mere decoration, hangs from a triple strand chain, links of your brass, summer fae gold, and human iron weaving around themselves in an alien facsimile of DNA, interlacing and reinforcing each other, all existing in perfect inseparable harmony. If one was to count them, there's precisely 125 links in each strand, threes and fives of Fates invoked together.
    --[X] Talisman Mechanics: 3 Dot Adornment Splendor: Form of Dreams and Nightmares, Form of Portentous Moonlight, Form of Steadfast Earth, Sacred Protection, Mystic Fortification (-2 DC on Willpower rolls to resist possession or mind-control including multi-element attacks).
    [X] Tears of the Summer Lady
    [X] Plan Exalted Effort
    -[X] Use two foci to make a 3 dot splendor (Mystically fortified Protection against Possession, Mind Control, and Iron)
    --[X] Head of Arianna Ortega (6th Generation Equivalent)
    --[X] Red Court Elder Corpse (7th generation equivalent)
    -[X] Use the foci for Crown questions before using them for crafting
    --[X] Arianna: Where are the gods that this one stolen from held?
    --[X] Red Court Elder: List of all covert Red Court agents
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It's important to note that, even leaving aside the iron thing, a 3 dot splendor is much, much more powerful than a 2 dot one. For a 2 dot splendor the attempt to resist possession or mind control in case of a multi-element attack, such as being struck with a cursed dagger, is made at DC8. For a 3 dot one with mystic fortification, it's DC5. And no, we can't Mystic Fortification into a 2 dot splendor - there's no room, as, I think, we can all agree that both possession and mind alteration protections are needed.

Furthermore, a 3 dot splendor adornment remains manifested for a week, while a 2 dot one only lasts for a day, meaning that it takes far less mana (or whatever it is the fae use as essence analog).

Basically, even if you want to use Lily's tears, add a vampiric elder head as well to boost it to three dots. It's a much better result for a small (relatively) expenditure of resources.
 
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fictionfan said:
Rereading this quest it becomes clear just how many difficulties we face that would have been trivial if we had charms we buy later. Like the battle in the lake would have been so easy if we had boiling Seas mastery and Rendered Villain dispersal.

Also our trip in Mexico would have been so easy with

Incidentally adaptation of Calling the Calibration Gate has been added to the character sheet. A bit less flexible than I was hoping.

Also @DragonParadox intoi has an extra i.
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Fixed, thanks. As for the spell, It is not as subtle as it could be, you are basically invoking calibration, the idea of imperfect boundaries and grey areas to pass boundaries. In a perfect world, one in which no one transgressed the spell would not work, in this one it has limited aiming possibilities since there is no actual Calibration for you guys to invoke.
 
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