Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

On the topic of jade talisman, there's one other test I want to try after we figure out how to make them and before we hand off the existing one to Lydia.

As a trade good it's potential a bad idea, but I'm curious what Harry could do with a bottle of essence to play with. Giving the magical meathead nuclear hand grenades sounds like a highly entertaining bit of mad science thaumaturgy even if it ends up being useless on a practical level.

Maybe he channels it like hellfire, maybe Bob snorts it like a line of coke and goes wild, maybe Harry figures out how to make them into fancy fuel rods for lesser enchantments, who knows what might happen.
 
This isn't human thinking, it's a fey thing. Gift-debt and reciprocation is fine, but if they think you're trying to force claims on them for the purposes of manipulation they get upset.
We would very clearly have reasons other than that though. We are a lifelong practicing Catholic celebrating Christmas, and it has an established tradition of exchanging gifts that predates Molly. We have developed a relationship with Maeve and Mab that including them is reasonable. We're also fellow royalty who have established relations with the Queens of Winter such that not including them could be considered a snub if they were to take it poorly. It's like giving gifts to the guests at a party. You include representatives of Summer and/or Winter as a matter of politeness, and it would be an insult to exclude them.

The issue with Summer is that we're already involved with Winter, and that inherently calls for some sort of balance with Summer.

I'm thinking something like:
I like it.
 
I'm thinking something like:

Arctic Absinthe - A spirit fermented from fresh Ascetic's Root and those few lightless plants of the waste that are edible to mortals. When swirled carefully in a glass the otherwise clear liquid almost seems to contain a trapped aurora borealis. Taken by the shot it is almost bitterly cold, most comparable to an invigorating mint though it doesn't quite match any earthly flavor, settling into a spicy heat.

For winter, and this for Summer:

Bright Brandy - Traditionally distilled from the shock-fruit of the near forests, this beverage undergoes a natural form of electrochemical fermentation over a fivefold distilling process. A cloudy white color, as it moves forking yellow streaks form and break apart, giving a false sense of depth. A sweet and tangy taste, it crackles in the mouth and leaves a tingling numbness going down.

Cause the closest thing to sunshine and constant warmth is the ring of lightning.
This vote has so much discussion and good idea that are not included in any votes.
 
I kind of agree with Uju about not getting people stuff for work for Christmas. The boots and socks are more general at least and I think its too stereotypical to get workshop tools for your dad. At least one of the other siblings are prob gonna do the same thing.
The boots and socks are more work related than what I am proposing, however. They are intended to make their jobs easier. Wood carving tools and home appliances are... well, the tools are for work, but they are not for combat-related work. To me it's important that Molly remembers and reminds MIchael subtly that he's not just a knight of the Cross.

Socks and boots feels way too generic and low effort.
Now would be a good moment as any.
Ok, adding Amoracchus's sword stand in.

And I also added letting Christmas elves do their thing for children, in addition to Courtly toys and, more importantly, sweets. So, a focus of consumables from the courts, and addition of toys from the elves. This is an opportunity after all.
 
Ok, adding Amoracchus's sword stand in.

And I also added letting Christmas elves do their thing for children, in addition to Courtly toys and, more importantly, sweets. So, a focus of consumables from the courts, and addition of toys from the elves. This is an opportunity after all.
Doing both is a bit much, one thing to each person is a better idea.
 
Handing out sweets from a literal alien planet to kids may not be the best idea, the thing is why they are broadly biologically compatible, no one has tested the more subtle or long term effects of such food on earth humans. It is one of those 'it's probably fine but test them on healthy adults first' situations.
 
Vote closed, now let's see what Maeve is up to
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Oct 28, 2023 at 4:59 AM, finished with 60 posts and 12 votes.
 
Would people prefer if I switched over to elven made toys for Amanda, Hope and Harry? on one hand this might be appropriate, but on the other, our courts should also have some good toys. I am not opposed to switching. My hills to die on are Michael and Charity Also, @DragonParadox are we voting for Amoracchius's gift in one of the next votes, or should I write in now?
Just my opinion?

Trying to force magic items on a woman who explicitly has lingering issues with magic? Kind of a dick move.
Especially when that person is supposed to be a loved one.
Respecting a person's boundaries kinda matter. Even when you think they are silly.

Im not saying its wrong to try to try to get her more comfortable with magic; we've had some success there with getting Charity to acknowledge the usefulness and safety of malspresso, for example.

But there's a difference between getting them to change their mind of their own will, and making them the type of gifts that the person would not be able to refuse under normal circumstances without looking like a dick.
At very best they'd just put it away and never use it.

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As for Michael?
I fail to see why he needs magic tools here. He's a carpenter. Not an "I make chairs and tables" carpenter, but a private contractor that does US housing construction work and wooden structures and the like; when he was crippled after Small Favor, he simply moved into house contracting.

Some old-fashioned hammers and stuff, but also a lot of modern power tools.

He doesnt need magic tools for this, and there's no reason to implicitly pressure his wife here by giving him magic tools.
Mastercraft tools maybe, but even those arent really necessary; they dont make his job easier as far as I know, and they may well be harder to maintain at his usual spots.

I'm thinking something like:
Looks good.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Oct 28, 2023 at 4:59 AM, finished with 60 posts and 12 votes.
 
Arc 10 Post 28: A History of Sin
A History of Sin

18th of December 2006 A.D.

"No list?" Maeve asks, a pout upon her borrowed face in response to your nod and instructions to the elves to 'do their thing'.

"I have a good memory," and do not want you reading over my shoulder, you add mentally. There are some things you would be fine sharing with her, concert tickets, the addresses of vampire hideouts, coupons for body bags, if you had any of those maybe, but not Christmas shopping, not for anyone you actually like.

"So, who are you planning to kill?" you ask, echoing a question she asked at your last meeting and calling back to the malk's message last month.

Her laugh is bright and cheery, like someone invited to a picnic. "I found out where a certain rat whose fate is of interest to both of us has gone, false friend and foolish plotter both?"

"Sandra," you spit the name, unable, unwilling really to keep the venom out of your voice and not just to play up to Maeve's predilections. "Where is she?"

"Where every failed gambler goes eventually, Las Vegas." Saying the name she props herself up on one of the tables and pulls a cigarette out of... somewhere, those shorts certainly do not come with pockets. "One more petty wilting flower in the court of the Dragon, or so the others would count her."

"Wait, Dragon?" You have been hearing a lot about those lately.

"Hmm—" she takes a long pull of the cigarette, thin blue smoke taking flight like misshapen birds from her lips. "Not the kind your father might be interested, he's merely called that. He is a Vampire of the Red Court, a count, perhaps he would me more, but he cannot leave for the weight of his true master's chains."

She is practically vibrating with eagerness for you to ask the obvious question, heck at this point she would probably take a question from one of the elves, but alas for her they have all taken the sensible path of staying clear and avoiding eye contact at all costs.

"Wait, you said court. This false 'Dragon', the vampire, he is operating openly?"

"Openly, defiantly," the Lady of Winter snarls as the cigarette is starting to smoke alarmingly the tip smoldering blue.

"Why hasn't the White Council done anything about such a high ranking member of the Red Court in a seemingly exposed position?" you ask careful of the minefield you may be walking into.

"Ha, good one, a bunch of doddering old fools dealing with one whose master staves off Winter itself," she laughs, catches herself. For a moment you can practically see the wheels spinning behind her bright blue gaze, damage control kicking into high gear. "I say this to you due to sharing common foes and out of respect for thine deeds."

Instinctively you know she would take even polite agreement with suspicion, mounting annoyance at the acknowledgement of her weakness. "Sure, sure, what does this have to do with that bitch Sandra?"

Lost 1 Essence -> Now at 13/15

She laughs, shakes her head as if to clear it and starts again. "The Dragon's been there since 1905, this dragon at least, but his liege's been there since the youth of the world when men were just another hunter in the deserts and scrub lands. Ever wondered why among all the boring names this country has, or worse the insipidly 'inspiring' meant to trick some cretin to go out west and die to dysentery there's a place called Death Valley still on the maps?"

"The false dragon's master?" you prompt when it becomes clear she is not going to keep going without audience participation.

"You wish. No this was something from Outside, a being, a pathway, maybe both, Those old medicine men knew enough to be afraid for their lives and souls, for the lives and souls of their children and grandchildren unborn. So they called up a spirit of darker sort a sin eater and they bid it to hold the gate shut, bidding it to devour the unworthy who came close."

"There is a sin eater under Las Vegas?" you ask with dawning understanding, and not a little horror.

Lost 1 Essence -> Now at 12/15 (Occult Excellency)

"Yeah, turns out holding fast the gates of madness can't be done on the strength of eating the odd shifty wanderer forever. Back in 1905 the spirit started getting antsy, get weary maybe. He offered old bat ears a bargain: power, wealth, blood and sex, the works if he would help build a city of sin to feed it into the spirits black heart. Yeah, that's right, middle aged execs blowing their kids' college funds on coke and call girls have been keeping one of the backdoors of reality safe. 'Just one more round of blackjack,' they cried and the world got to keep spinning one more day." Maeve giggles."The Dragon's a cup-bearer, no more and no less, but it gives him great power in his domain, enough that it would be difficult to shift him and even if we did..."

"Your prize would be brand new front, assuming the changeover would even work out cleanly," you finish mind whirling with dark imaginings. "I assume you sent a message about what Sandra is." Truth be told you would not put it past Maeve to not have done that just so she would have her vengeance, but Mab has more sense than her daughter.

"The message has been sent, no answer has been received. Don't know what the old vamp of Vegas is playing at, but Sandra is still there and a Winter warband not be welcome to deal with her. The only fey in the city are a band of wyldfae who are part of his game. But none of that applies to you... You are new. I want you to chase Sandra out of the city so we can both have a piece. I'll consider that a favor to be repaid in kind."

What do you reply?

[] Agree to Maeve's terms (Costs 1 AP next month)

[] Refuse Maeve's terms, there are other means of dealing with this, you could alert the White Council, the White court, there is more at stake that Maeve's vengeance or yours

[] Write in


OOC: The basic premise of this is from the RPG book Paranet Files, but do not assume everything in there is accurate and of course we are pre-Changes so the circumstances will be different because of that too.
 
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Ever wondered why among all the boring names this country has, or worse the insipidly 'inspiring' meant to trick some cretin to go out west and die to dysentery there's a place called Death Valley still on the maps?"
Footnote: Death Valley has a lot of other warning names nearby telling you what to expect. Badwater Basin, Furnace Creek, Hell's Gate, Devil's Cornfield, Funeral Mountains. :D
 
Trying to force magic items on a woman who explicitly has lingering issues with magic? Kind of a dick move.
Especially when that person is supposed to be a loved one.
Respecting a person's boundaries kinda matter. Even when you think they are silly.

Im not saying its wrong to try to try to get her more comfortable with magic; we've had some success there with getting Charity to acknowledge the usefulness and safety of malspresso, for example.

But there's a difference between getting them to change their mind of their own will, and making them the type of gifts that the person would not be able to refuse under normal circumstances without looking like a dick.
At very best they'd just put it away and never use it.
Malcoffee should have been much more traumatic. And it went more than well enough. Carpenter family is deep in the supernatural world already, much more so than in canon, and it's not just us - Daniel is getting deep into supernatural world too, with Leech next on the schedule. It would be good for Charity to overcome her trauma, and I think she's well on her way there.


[X] Agree to Maeve's terms (Costs 1 AP next month)

Don't have the RPG book, but this is an opportunity. Depending on what the thing Outside is, this escalates to us either killing it, or dealing with it, and resolving the whole situation. This should be a good adventure.

Plus, we get a Vegas adventure.
 
Later Mom asks about what we did:

Wanted Sarah, so I had to fight the Dragon.
His boss got angry, so I had to fight the ancient spirit.
Killing that opened the doors of night, so I had to fight an Outsider.
Killing that...
 
This is an interesting one, because even if we can take the big boss killing those guys would obligate us to move to Vegas. Which most sensible people agree is a fate worse than death.


Incidentally, are we past the point where that booze vote could go in? The original gift plan vote had something for them, and I'm not clear if this last vote was just for clarifying a few people or if we discarded that and only our votes for the latest gift set count.

Poor girl might actually blush so hard she has a positive body temperature when she thinks back on this.
 
Later Mom asks about what we did:

Wanted Sarah, so I had to fight the Dragon.
His boss got angry, so I had to fight the ancient spirit.
Killing that opened the doors of night, so I had to fight an Outsider.
Killing that...
Molly: "Long story short, what happens in Vegas no longer stays in Vegas. Mostly because Vegas doesn't really exist any longer. Well, there is a crater..."
 
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