Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Fighting or socialing large numbers of vampires isn't necessarily a problem, especially in bursts, it's just that ExWoD aren't designed with the idea of burning motes continuously for hours.
With 17 soak at DC 4 I feel fairly comfortable having Molly just ignore all Wamp attacks. However less than that and taking on 9 at once might have Molly dieing to chip damage.
 
These are not your average mooks, or even average Whampires AIUI. We should be prepared to see them pulling out all the stops, and at least some of them may be Elders.
We should be *very* wary of engaging potentially dozens or scores of Whampires more or less simultaneously, particularly when a number of them may or may not be Elders of some stripe.
Even if they were average mooks, we don't have the means to deal with large numbers of them quickly while also potentially fighting multiple Whampire Elders. Particularly if the swarm of mooks is being buffed/boosted by one or more of them.
Did we have a read for how many would likely be there?
 
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These are not your average mooks, or even average Whampires AIUI. We should be prepared to see them pulling out all the stops, and at least some of them may be Elders.
We should be *very* wary of engaging potentially dozens or scores of Whampires more or less simultaneously, particularly when a number of them may or may not be Elders of some stripe.
Even if they were average mooks, we don't have the means to deal with large numbers of them quickly while also potentially fighting multiple Whampire Elders. Particularly if the swarm of mooks is being buffed/boosted by one or more of them.
Did we have a read for how many would likely be there?
They might be pulling out all the stops, but most of those stops are going to be high level mind stuff which we have a perfect defense against. I expect the we are going to be hit with enough fear, despair, lust, awe to make even most white council members to have their hearts give out. But without all their presence or domination disciplines Wamp are just fairly fit humans who break their hands trying to punch us well we sword one each tick.
 
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With 17 soak at DC 4 I feel fairly comfortable having Molly just ignore all Wamp attacks. However less than that and taking on 9 at once might have Molly dieing to chip damage.
We're the people arranging the killing, we should have time to turn on our buffs before we need them.

Leaving them on all night as fashion accessories isn't viable from a resource consumption perspective though.
 
[X] To make the order a much harder target, people have been getting along mostly, it's a start

[X] It's a party right, normal party attire sounds good, all the more surprising when you close the trap on the ringleaders
 
[X] To make the order a much harder target, people have been getting along mostly, it's a start

[X] It's a party right, normal party attire sounds good, all the more surprising when you close the trap on the ringleaders
-[X] The dress you made for Lydia's ghostly party

1)We dont want to control Lara.
We want the White Court to stop hurting people.
Those are not quite the same thing.
It is basically the same.

To stop natural predators like this from hurting people we need them under very direct control, just putting one of their own in charge without direct supervision would never work.
Just like we can't expect Fetches to behave while the Eldest Fetch is in charge and nobody is looking over his shoulder.
Having Lara as someone who knows the Court and its members as the management makes sense, but letting her rule without our control will only ever be a slight improvement over other Whampires.
 
[X] To make the order a much harder target, people have been getting along mostly, it's a start

[X] It's a party right, normal party attire sounds good, all the more surprising when you close the trap on the ringleaders
-[X] The dress you made for Lydia's ghostly party


It is basically the same.

To stop natural predators like this from hurting people we need them under very direct control, just putting one of their own in charge without direct supervision would never work.
Just like we can't expect Fetches to behave while the Eldest Fetch is in charge and nobody is looking over his shoulder.
Having Lara as someone who knows the Court and its members as the management makes sense, but letting her rule without our control will only ever be a slight improvement over other Whampires.
Yeah, but we've still got to balance things out.

The white court is a bit more than we can chew right now, so medium term focusing on influence over pressing more overt control is a reasonable play.

We need to be careful not to get outmaneuvered by Lara in doing so, but that was always the case.

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[X] To make the order a much harder target, people have been getting along mostly, it's a start

[X] It's a party right, normal party attire sounds good, all the more surprising when you close the trap on the ringleaders
-[X] The dress you made for Lydia's ghostly party
 
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OK, so it looks like we are not going to ask for reparations and we are going in the dress you mad for the ghost party
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Jun 30, 2023 at 8:47 AM, finished with 63 posts and 16 votes.

  • [X] To make the order a much harder target, people have been getting along mostly, it's a start
    [X] It's a party right, normal party attire sounds good, all the more surprising when you close the trap on the ringleaders
    -[X] The dress you made for Lydia's ghostly party
    [X] It's a party right, normal party attire sounds good, all the more surprising when you close the trap on the ringleaders
    [X] To establish communication channels between the minor practitioners so that information is shared and you can respond earlier to danger. If that happens to build a new network of influence for us, well that's just a cherry on top.
    [X] To get Lara, or, rather, estates of the perpetrators, to pay some kind of compensation to the victims
    -[X] including and starting with families of those killed
    -[X] The concept of weregild is something they should understand
    [X] Dress as you did when you met Mab
    [X] Write in dress
    -[X] You go dressed in skin of steel and covered in broken idols proclaiming your glory. (Steel skin and Viridian Legend Exoskeleton)
    [X] To make sure victims, and families of victims are taken care of, and not left alone.
 
Arc 8 Post 21: Birthday, Opening Night
Birthday, Opening Night

13th of November 2006 A.D.

"Happy birthday boss!" Sarah calls dramatically lifting the the white handkerchief she must have gotten from Isabela to reveal a jumbo sized dugout with caramel chocolate glazing and sprinkles that is quickly joined by a candle. Jack the vampire, wearing a new jacket, striped pants for some reason and an easy smile pulls out a lighter to finish things off.

"You know smocking's bad for you," you joke, to cover for your surprise. After all you hadn't told anyone down here it was your birthday today besides...

As your eyes fall on him Harry shrugs to confirm your suspicions, the gesture amplified by his height. Guess I deserved that for surprising him like that.

Despite your fears the Jade Dogs do not make this weird, no undue deference of trying to outdo each other with gifts. Someone had bought beers and pizza to add to the stuff at the buffet and while the members of the Ordo are surprised to hear it is your birthday today of all times they all get into the spirit of things.'I thought you were older,' does stop being flattering the eighth or ninth time you hear it though.

"Harry do I look old you?" you walk up to him, a pair of plastic cups in hand. Sneak up might have been the better verb. Alas wizard's senses or mayhap just a detective's intuition prompt him to turn his head before you start talking.

"No.. uh... no." He was going to say something else before he caught himself you're sure.

"Let me guess, you weren't expecting them to put on something this big?" you ask, a smile creeping its way upward at the corner of your mouth. "You thought they'd stop at the drought."

"Sorry if you weren't..." he trails off, then launches into a joke. "You know most people do not get sick of birthdays until they are at least thirty."

"It's not birthdays, I'm just kind of bummed out that I can't spend it with Izzy, and Alec, Rosie, people from school, just do the stuff I have been anticipating doing the last year or two."

"Such as?" he prompts, head tipped to the side in that way he does it when asking questions of someone shorter than him, which is to say most people,

"About a third of it's illegal and half of the rest of it is embarrassing," you counter instantly

"Sounds like fun," a familiar voice chirps. Isabela had found you. She looks Harry up and down more like a lumberjack measuring a tree than anything. "You know I thought you would be scarier or something from the way some of the elders talked about you, but you're kind of a dork aren't you?"

"Power there is in being a dork," Harry answers in his best master Yoda impression, which isn't very good, or wouldn't be at least for anyone who could not feel the power gathering around him, not to lash out of course, just to make it clear that this tree is a sequoia.

"Do you want me to come with you?" he asks suddenly and way more intensely than he had been speaking before. After ruthlessly quashing excitement at the fact you realize why he might be feeling like that. The last time he went to a vampire party things did not go well. Odds are good he's feeling even worse about 'letting' you go without him.

"The thralls could still attack tonight." You had been over this before, that is why he is still here not at home. "And we do not know what else could be lurking. I'd like to say the Station is secure, but..." Adam's face flashes though your mind's eye.

"Well if you need me call." He pulls out a phone from his duster Burny to be exact, still holding him a bit like a live grenade, but obviously having made his peace with the dark spirit he'd shared a roof with these past few months.

"Sure thing," you agree before starting the long climb back to the surface and home.

***​

Dad calls in around five PM the day of the party, he's safe and things are going alright in Saint Louis, apparently he is there to deal with a crises of faith on the part of someone who hopefully still has a larger role to play in the fight against the Fallen. He does not say more so as to preserve their privacy, but it's very good to hear that he has been called on for counsel not battle. You do not think you could even pretend to pay attention to a party if you knew he was in danger. Not to mention that you might find yourself enjoying the the second part of the night's festivities a little too much.

The doorbell rings and in the hallway you can hear mom stop pacing, she has not even been pretending not be worried ever since she put the jawas to bed. Even Hope had been able to tell something weird was going on and it was not just that mom managed to burn the birthday cake he made for you. Daniel of course knows the whole thing and he is not happy that you and Lydia are going to a vampire party 'alone'. Your mother had not argued with him, he had just said 'no' and Daniel, ever more dutiful than you, hadn't taken that as an invitation to have a screaming argument, instead just going off to sulk. To be honest you are glad he did, no matter how gently one puts it there's no pleasant way to say 'you would be a liability'.

"Hi," you greet Lydia. "Ready to send a message?" Her choice of dress certainly does, white and leaving one shoulder bare it recalls a Roman toga, but the silver laurel crown on her head does more than 'recall' anything. It is more like a challenge. 'Behold my glory and my power, if you would contest it come forth, else bow your head before royalty'. If you recall your history correctly the actual romans didn't like kings much at least until they wound up reinventing the concept. Hopefully there aren't any scions of the late republic around.

"Yeah, this needs dealing with," she sounds so sombre and calm, like the veil of night over the city, the watchful moon above, but in her eyes there gleams a fire far less serene, you know her well. For she who has chosen to be comforter of the dead has scores to settle with those among the living who sent those unfortunate spirits wandering, whether it be Demetrious the once-vampire or those poor talents you do not even know the names of.

As Black Rider makes his smooth near silent way to the Raith Estate you wonder how best to present yourself. They would never mistake you for someone... normal, not when your soul presses upon theirs like a weight upon a neck forcing a bow, but maybe you could pretend to be out of your depth, see who might come sniffing around. Alternatively you could let your curiosity shine free, meet and greet some people before the festivities begin in earnest.

How do you wish to present at the Festival?

[] Out of your depth, see who is tempted to come to you

[] Go meet some interesting people, there will be time enough to pay back the conspirators when Lara gives the signal

[] Write in


OOC: Hopefully this does not feel like it is rushing too much.
 
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Is the Lord or Lady Skavis here?

I'd like to know if they knew what their heir was doing.
The crown says they are not directly involved, but it's still worth knowing.
 
[X] Go meet some interesting people, there will be time enough to pay back the conspirators when Lara gives the signal

This is the more terrifying option. Because someone powerful behaving uncertain and out of their depth? That is intrigue 101. Someone powerful just going sightseeing? That is a statement of strength. That is saying I am so strong I don't have to care about any of you and I'm just here to have some fun. People will test Molly for that, but she's not likely to be found wanting.
 
[X] Come as what you are, a Prince of Malfeas, a Champion of the Green Sun. A Sovereign from Before. You are here to receive a peace-offering from Lara, so that those that infringed on your domain and hunted undue targets may be swiftly dealt with to the satisfaction of both parties.
 
[X] Come as what you are, a Prince of Malfeas, a Champion of the Green Sun. A Sovereign from Before. You are here to receive a peace-offering from Lara, so that those that infringed on your domain and hunted undue targets may be swiftly dealt with to the satisfaction of both parties.

Molly does not know the names... but she can more or less do this. Expect to be anima flaring when you walk out of the car.
 
[jk]It really was nice of everyone to throw out all the stops to celebrate my birthday.
Its a party specifically in honor of deities who are given homage by proxy when they don't personally attend, for all the old meaning isn't given too much respect anymore. So... close enough?

Two beings that would be called gods if you ignore specific jargon are walking in the door and so arguably the ritual is, for once, performing as intended. Task failed successfully.
 
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[X] Come as what you are, a Prince of Malfeas, a Champion of the Green Sun. A Sovereign from Before. You are here to receive a peace-offering from Lara, so that those that infringed on your domain and hunted undue targets may be swiftly dealt with to the satisfaction of both parties.
Here's the thing: That will undermine Lara tremendously even if Molly comes across as Mab would.

Because while everyone knows Mab isn't one to cross, Mab has rules so everyone knows when they are crossed whereas this is just 'mortal witches are protected now, you can't stop me because you're all too weak.' Unless Molly proceeds to kill everyone at the party but the Raiths, there will be people willing to test that challenge. Even if she does there will be people looking for revenge.

Pushing things so we look like 'Lara's ally' shifts things to a message where it's more 'these are the new rules for the White Court as expressed by the leaders of the White Court' and 'messing with mortal witches is stupid and risky because it could be a Raith trap'.

It's fine if we reveal Molly as scary later at the party so long as we come in as 'Lara's ally' rather than 'Lara's master'.

The former is probably just more productive on solving the problem.
 
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[X] Go meet some interesting people, there will be time enough to pay back the conspirators when Lara gives the signal
 
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[X] Go meet some interesting people, there will be time enough to pay back the conspirators when Lara gives the signal

I'll put my chips on this option until someone suggests something that strikes me. I doubt we would be pretending too hard to be human even with this sort of option. We'd certainly try to pretend as if even the worst things we see are old hat to us.
 
[X] Go meet some interesting people, there will be time enough to pay back the conspirators when Lara gives the signal

I'll put my chips on this option until someone suggests something that strikes me. I doubt we would be pretending too hard to be human even with this sort of option. We'd certainly try to pretend as if even the worst things we see are old hat to us.

You have Demonic Primacy of Essence, as alluded too in the update you cannot pretend to be a human in a gathering of vampires because all of them are going to feel the urge to submit to your will. It is not subtle.
 
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