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[x]Uju32
Gaia left her major sub souls behind and did the same thing though.Autochton had a way to manufacture exalted and was still dying. That's not a good example.
As usual you can blame the government. USA government subsidizes the cost a lot, which means Universities wind up encouraged to both hike up the cost, cram students into classes, and make up useless degrees to support the former two.
1)Conceded.That's wrong:
Rosie was caught at the "conceptual edge of Exaltation", and it was the exaltation that sparked her minor talent into being.
Giving someone magic is influencing them, something angels don't do.
Not really.True, but he is kind of special being the creator god among creator gods and even so he is dying from if I understand it right an infection of that Nowhere.
1)Tuition 63,801 + 7500 maintenance allowance for the 2023/2024 session.No, it doesn't. Tuition rates in the US are absolutely fucking insane, of course, but in 2006 they weren't quite that ridiculous.
In 2006, the annual tuition for the University of Chicago was $32,265. For 2021-2022 it was $62,241. God damn, that's disgusting. Anyway, still not nearly as much as you claimed.
Also, uju, why in the hell would Rosie need a full-time nanny? That's for lazy, rich people and/or very well paid working parents. Even as a full-time student, Rosie isn't looking at more than 20 hours in class each week, and most of her studying can be done at home. Yes, daycare or babysitters would be needed, but not a nanny. And it's not like the nanny option would be safer than babysitters or daycare. If someone was after the baby to use as leverage against Rosie or us, there are always going to be opportunities for them to make a move that don't involve assaulting whatever house they're living in at the time.
This also ignores the possibility that Rosie's mother wouldn't be willing, or even extremely eager, to help watch the baby sometimes. I've known very few grandmothers over the years who weren't happy to have time with their young grandchildren when they were nearby and physically able to handle it. Rosie's mother is still quite young and, IIRC, doesn't work.
The child was inside her at the time, and we have since fueled the flames of her talent while she was still pregnant. It's quite plausible for me that the child is going to be gifted.1)Conceded.
But that only applied to awakening Rosie. Not her kid.
Wasn't Dresden given soulfire as a sort of compensation / reward for passing the trial of rejecting the denarian coin and in a way redeeming a shadow of a fallen?2)Uriel gave Dresden soulfire.
Christian mythology literally attests to blessings as a thing as well.Exposure to the passive field/presence around an angel doesnt appear to count as active interference, and it sure as hell did nothing to the wielders either.
Some of the Denarians have become magic users, but a lot arent, even after decades of exposure.
Then there's all the Fae changelings.
I dont think its reasonable to assume that environmental influence is enough in this case. Especially at third hand.
2)Because 20 hours in-class work, 5 hours time around class, and 5 hours commute(30 minutes either way, five times a week) already adds up to 30 hours a week, or 6 hours a day, 5 days a week. Doing all that while feeding, dressing and caring for a six month old as a single teenage parent is the sort of thing you are really glad for help when you can get it.
A bunch of college work is group assignments, which you cant actually do from home either.
And speaking as someone who has helped raise kids of that age, you really cant focus on study when babysitting one of those little gremlins. God help you when they start teething too. Nannies are a standin for the extended family and local community that would previously help a mother raise a kid.
3)Given the friction here, I dont want to make that assumption in a scenario where keeping the kids is a source of contention..
I am hoping Rosie and her family work things out, but that isnt necessarily helped by by dumping a good chunk of the work of helping raise the kid(s) on their grandmother. If she volunteers, great, but dont make that assumption.
And we dont know how Mrs Wilson spends her day(s).
She may not have a job, but that doesnt mean she sits at home all day watching soap operas.
Charity doesnt, and they're roughly the same age.
You literally had to be a Celestial Exalt's child to get any powers from them in Creation, and Creation was a higher-magic setting than World of Darkness/Dresden Files.The child was inside her at the time, and we have since fueled the flames of her talent while she was still pregnant. It's quite plausible for me that the child is going to be gifted.
Paperwork. And the lack of it.You could also get the local ghouls and vampires to play nanny, they do not expect to be paid for their work more than they already are.
Different world, potentially different rules.Exaltation don't power up people around them, even kids of celestial barely get anything.
To my recollection, it was neither.Uriel did it for reasons of his own, to counter Lucifer/Hell's faction acting.Wasn't Dresden given soulfire as a sort of compensation / reward for passing the trial of rejecting the denarian coin and in a way redeeming a shadow of a fallen?
As to Denarians - they only get the coins after they are born (and most of them only get them after they are fully mature). Mutations, including soul mutations, wouldn't affect them like they would an unborn child. And, again, we are much less contained. Have we ever unleashed our anima in Rosie's presence? I don't remember.
^^^I think it's worth pointing out once more that the plan @Yog put together will trip the warning DP gave on being externally verifiable.
Molly is specifically not on any legal documents related to Chicago Synthetics, there's a quote on one of my last few posts to prove it. She is not conversant in even the basic elements of the field she's claiming to be a genius in. We have no explanation for why we're doing what we are right now congruent with the facts as we'd state them to Rosie's parents.
Fair enough to those who don't like my approach, but any claim backed by telling them we have control of the company walks directly into this issue.
...That's really depends. ExWoD's don't, but Half-Castes outcompeting Dragonblooded was a pretty big thing in 2.5e's.Exaltation don't power up people around them, even kids of celestial barely get anything.
The idea girl of Chicago Synthetics is the literal truth, but isnt plausible.Ok then, we need to:
1) Explain why Rosie is getting a job in Chicago Synthetics (if she's getting one) - the company is hella shady, because, to be fair, it is a front for infernal magic money making scheme
2) Explain where we are getting a lot of money, on a consistent basis
"We are the idea girl behind Chicago Synthetics, which is a startup with innovative diamond making technology" has the advantage of essentially being the truth. Inheritance doesn't pass muster, because there's no one we could have inherited from, and inheritance is easy to check (not sure about USA, but I assume that would appear on tax forms). Various lies require additional setup.
Adding Magic to the mix of what is being told makes it far more believable though. And keeps it even more unverifiable, besides the money being real."We are the idea girl behind Chicago Synthetics, which is a startup with innovative diamond making technology" has the advantage of essentially being the truth. Inheritance doesn't pass muster, because there's no one we could have inherited from, and inheritance is easy to check (not sure about USA, but I assume that would appear on tax forms). Various lies require additional setup.
So what if it's the truth? The truth, in this instance, doesn't make sense without supernatural shenanigans.Ok then, we need to:
1) Explain why Rosie is getting a job in Chicago Synthetics (if she's getting one) - the company is hella shady, because, to be fair, it is a front for infernal magic money making scheme
2) Explain where we are getting a lot of money, on a consistent basis
"We are the idea girl behind Chicago Synthetics, which is a startup with innovative diamond making technology" has the advantage of essentially being the truth. Inheritance doesn't pass muster, because there's no one we could have inherited from, and inheritance is easy to check (not sure about USA, but I assume that would appear on tax forms). Various lies require additional setup.
Why would you tempt the dude in the military-industrial complex with knowledge of magic and its applications?Adding Magic to the mix of what is being told makes it far more believable though. And keeps it even more unverifiable, besides the money being real.
He explicitly would be fine if the Divine Ministers just pressed the wake up button (which they could anytime) and he could manually sort out his problems.
I kinda doubt him just knowing about some things is going to have any consequences.Why would you tempt the dude in the military-industrial complex with knowledge of magic and its applications?
During the War on Terror at that. The last time the military-intelligence-industrial complex got involved with magic in the Cold War, it required the Knights to do cleanup.
Do you LIKE Daedalus shenanigans?
No we won't. If they disbelieve us, ask them what kind of custom diamond they want, within reason, then give them one next day / weekend. That proves our bonafides.The idea girl of Chicago Synthetics is the literal truth, but isnt plausible.
You'd basically have to reveal magic.
We previously talked about Mr. WIlson being a security contractor. I based my assumption of his capabilities on that. Asking for a security check to be run on an associate of his daughter's and such. It's easy enough to learn that no relative of Carpenters' died recently. In fact, given that we are Rosie's best friends, and WIlsons know Carpenters at least a bit, they'd probably know enough to realize that there was no rich granduncle who died recently.Inheritance is both the literal truth, and cannot be disproved.
Gifts are not public record in the US. And your personal tax records from the IRS are private, to the point of it being a felony to disclose them iirc, with max penalties of 5 years and 250k in fines for the offence.
And its not like children inheriting X gifts or X trust when they reach the right age is something new in the US.
Ok, law check (genuine question, I don't know) - are private companies employer records publicly available / can be requested by someone easily? Would that be easier or harder to check for a multi-million inheritance? Because we are talking multi-million.TLDR
The Wilsons can easily check Chicago Synthetics; its registered publicly, and has a legal footprint.
There is however no way for them to check Molly's financial records with the IRS.
I am not totally opposed to showing magic, but let's try and do without it first. At the very least, we should talk with Rosie about that first.Adding Magic to the mix of what is being told makes it far more believable though. And keeps it even more unverifiable, besides the money being real.
We can prove the truth, however, outrageous as it is. Like, the simplest way to prove that we are saying the truth would be to ask them what kind of custom diamond they want, and make them one. Pretty easy.So what if it's the truth? The truth, in this instance, doesn't make sense without supernatural shenanigans.
The truth doesn't always set you free. Sometimes it just makes shit way more complicated than it needs to be.
The revelation of magic would probably come bundled with polite people from the Library of Congress telling him "don't touch, that's not for you". But yes, this is one of the many reasons I am not pushing for that.Why would you tempt the dude in the military-industrial complex with knowledge of magic and its applications?
During the War on Terror at that. The last time the military-intelligence-industrial complex got involved with magic in the Cold War, it required the Knights to do cleanup.
Do you LIKE Daedalus shenanigans?
Isn't he also suffering from the fact that there is nothing in Nowhere and his sickness requires him to use materials from creation to help?
Edit:
*See the thing about us not appearing in the Chicago synthetics documents despite being pretty sure we are*
Ok, cutting that one at the roots:
@DragonParadox, does Molly appear in the documents of Chicago Synthetics?
Yes, you are the owner, otherwise it would be really odd for you to be siphoning out the company funds because you need to empty out a Goodwill or something.