Mechanically possible.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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I've always favored keeping it simple, and letting people draw their own conclusions.
And given that we'll be publicly wielding Exalted charms and Shih arts in addition to both Ancient and mortal sorceries, there's a lot of room to cover.
I mean, recall that while the Gatekeeper has some time magic bullshit with regards to prophecy and precognition, the Mothers explicitly can see potential futures:
I looked back and forth between them. Centuries of dysfunction in this family, Harry. Walk carefully. "I, uh. I think I'd prefer to think of it as a very firm invitation."
"Hah," said Mother Winter, from her hood. Her teeth gleamed. "The Knight knows his loyalties, at least."
Mother Summer somehow managed to inject her voice with profound skepticism. "I'm sure he's overjoyed to owe loyalty to you," she said. "Why did you bring him here now, of all times?"
More teeth showed. "He summoned me, the precious thing."
Mother Summer dropped her herbs. She turned her head toward me, her eyes wide. "Oh," she said. "Oh, dear."
Mother Winter's rocker creaked, though it didn't really seem to move. "He knew certain names. He was not wholly stupid in choosing them, or wholly wrong in using them."
Mother Summer's bright green eyes narrowed. "Did he . . . ?"
"No," croaked Mother Winter. "Not that one. But he has seen the adversary, and learned one of its names."
Calculation and thought flickered through those green eyes, faster than I could follow. "Ah, yes. I see," Mother Summer said. "So many new futures unwinding."
"Too many bright ones," Mother Winter said sullenly.
"Even you must think better that than empty night."
Mother Winter spit to one side.
It started eating a hole in the dirt floor a few inches from one of my feet. I'm not kidding. I took a small sidestep away, and tried not to breathe the fumes.
"I think," Mother Winter said, "that he should be shown."
Mother Summer narrowed her eyes. "Is he ready?"
"There is no time to coddle him," she rasped. "He is a weapon. Let him be made stronger."
"Or broken?" Mother Summer asked.
"Time, time!" Winter breathed. "He is not your weapon."
"It is not your world," Summer countered.
"Excuse me," I said quietly.
Green eyes and black hood turned toward me.
"Hah," said Mother Winter, from her hood. Her teeth gleamed. "The Knight knows his loyalties, at least."
Mother Summer somehow managed to inject her voice with profound skepticism. "I'm sure he's overjoyed to owe loyalty to you," she said. "Why did you bring him here now, of all times?"
More teeth showed. "He summoned me, the precious thing."
Mother Summer dropped her herbs. She turned her head toward me, her eyes wide. "Oh," she said. "Oh, dear."
Mother Winter's rocker creaked, though it didn't really seem to move. "He knew certain names. He was not wholly stupid in choosing them, or wholly wrong in using them."
Mother Summer's bright green eyes narrowed. "Did he . . . ?"
"No," croaked Mother Winter. "Not that one. But he has seen the adversary, and learned one of its names."
Calculation and thought flickered through those green eyes, faster than I could follow. "Ah, yes. I see," Mother Summer said. "So many new futures unwinding."
"Too many bright ones," Mother Winter said sullenly.
"Even you must think better that than empty night."
Mother Winter spit to one side.
It started eating a hole in the dirt floor a few inches from one of my feet. I'm not kidding. I took a small sidestep away, and tried not to breathe the fumes.
"I think," Mother Winter said, "that he should be shown."
Mother Summer narrowed her eyes. "Is he ready?"
"There is no time to coddle him," she rasped. "He is a weapon. Let him be made stronger."
"Or broken?" Mother Summer asked.
"Time, time!" Winter breathed. "He is not your weapon."
"It is not your world," Summer countered.
"Excuse me," I said quietly.
Green eyes and black hood turned toward me.
Speaking of combat buys, something that occurred to me as a lark:
Mind-Hand Manipulation: 2 dots: 8xp
Principle Invoking Onslaught: 3 dots: 12xp
Note that Mind Hand Manipulation has no range restriction besides line of sight, can be used for attack, is an invisible weapon, and allows you to lift up to several thousand pounds of stuff. And that Principle Invoking Onslaught is limited to what appears to be man-portable weapons of created machined parts.
Now consider that, unlike the Davy Crockett's ~20 ton yield and ~4km maximum range, the Special Atomic Demolition Munition was supposed to be carried by one person, had a weight of around 60 pounds and a yield of up to 1 kiloton.
You can spam that just fine at a rate of 1x every six seconds(3 to fire, 3 to reload) for a scene and deploy it via MHM.
Your budget strategic nuclear power combo.
For when you must absolutely burn a location to the ground.
More seriously?
I would also suggest looking at the spell Burning Eyes of the Offender, which raises the difficulty of attacking you by 2 DC. I just dont know if it would be any fun in play, because if the opposition are having to roll at DC8/9, they are kinda fucked.
Principle Invoking Onslaught: 3 dots: 12xp
Note that Mind Hand Manipulation has no range restriction besides line of sight, can be used for attack, is an invisible weapon, and allows you to lift up to several thousand pounds of stuff. And that Principle Invoking Onslaught is limited to what appears to be man-portable weapons of created machined parts.
Now consider that, unlike the Davy Crockett's ~20 ton yield and ~4km maximum range, the Special Atomic Demolition Munition was supposed to be carried by one person, had a weight of around 60 pounds and a yield of up to 1 kiloton.
You can spam that just fine at a rate of 1x every six seconds(3 to fire, 3 to reload) for a scene and deploy it via MHM.
Your budget strategic nuclear power combo.
For when you must absolutely burn a location to the ground.
More seriously?
I would also suggest looking at the spell Burning Eyes of the Offender, which raises the difficulty of attacking you by 2 DC. I just dont know if it would be any fun in play, because if the opposition are having to roll at DC8/9, they are kinda fucked.
On its own, it does not say that.
But it says power level similar to Uriel, not the same as. Thats what says org chart equivalent. They are not peers, else the phrasing would be different.
That and the fact that we dont appear to see them cheating and eating forfeits like Hell and its agents.
And I will point out that weird restrictions are also a Fae Court thing.
The rules about not crossing thresholds with hostile intent, the compulsion to act as a guest, even the inability to mess with mortals who aren't already connected to the Courts, which is part of why they have a Knight?
The stunt's fine.
What Artemis said.
We'd break the setting if we could trivially make our own foci.
Was Ligier ever the sun of Creation? He never had the title "the Sun that Was before the Sun" as far as I recall. Ligier and Sol Invictus never illuminated the same earth, or shone upon the same people to establish such a moniker. The best hypothesis for me would be that some race / people lived in Malfeas, and for them Ligier was the sun. Then at the turning of ages they fled, and there was a new sun. I mean, some Malfean race surviving is kinda possible, I guess.
Also, the title would not apply to exalted.
- Location
- Germany
Ligier was the first burning light that hurt the nearby Raksha.
When Creation was made Adrian had the defence, but in the uncounted time before, each of the Primordials defended themselves from lesser Raksha who attacked them for being real and constant.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I would not try it. We wrote that note just like we wrote the book of Yomi. If we try and use it as a focus we might just cross our wires again depending on the question.
Then again a question "Who knows I know about the information on this note?" Might work because we are asking for information coming from us.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
Both Harry on dad are on their second bottle of scotch and we've been talking for MAYBE two minutes...
We are giving Harry a wad of cash the size of a squirrel after this, that is for sure.
We are giving Harry a wad of cash the size of a squirrel after this, that is for sure.
- Location
- In the Grail's Church
Ligier was explicitly the sun of creation before Sol, along with his Queen Ruvelia when Malfeas was still the Holy Tyrant. Sol Incarna was actually created because Ligier was too good at being the sun: his light pierced everything and there was no room for shadows. The Ebon Dragon convinced Theion to create Sol with him because before his creation, the Shadow of All Things was a just a presence, an idea in the corner of the mind. He needed a light that would allow something in contrast, an opposition, a shadow.
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- She/Her
[X] It is very unlikely those named or other instances of the infiltrators would know about the name, though they might know you suspect the general shape of the plot
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
Our father may not drink but I think he magically absorbed an unopened glass bottle through his face via osmosis.Michael does not drink
...he might make an exception.
Before I was worried about our being disappeared for a few months into the Nevernever. Now, thinking about what happens if Nemesis isn't instantly quashed in its most obvious faces, I'm thinking that going with Mab if she even gently pushes in that direction is the preferable outcome. Nemesis is going to know even if its learning comes half a second in advance of Mab's icy dagger. The timing here... even if there is no way for us to be the information source the timing means we are clearly the information source regardless.
And the next wave of Nemesis sockpuppets will also know.
- Location
- Canada
Never have I wanted anything more
Not sure where/who we could use it against ATM, but I'll bet hearing Molly qualifies as a nuclear-armed nation by herself would give Dresden and Michael even more conniptions
That's sort of what I was going for. Not an outright statement, but a denial on one area before transitioning into a discussion of another temptingly plausible reason for how we did it.
The primary difference between the two versions I posted is that one makes reference only to the knowledge of one bit AS, and the other addresses it as a category.
I'm going to properly vote for that version as it's the one I like the best. Not sure if it's worth actually labeling it as a plan instead of just a stunt at this point though. Tally will probably work it out.
[X] Plan Ancient
-[X] It is very unlikely those named or other instances of the infiltrators would know about the name, though they might know you suspect the general shape of the plot
-[X] Mention the ritual of exorcism and its potential as a treatment before things move any further.
-[X] [Stunt] Matching her gaze once more Molly steels herself against the certainty she feels in the power - the legacy - she has grasped. "It is unlikely that they know they've been found so directly, but they may know I've some knowledge of the general shape of the plot. Though there is a one more thing they almost certainly do not know."
—[X] For a moment she can almost see the ziggurat again, feel the glyphs as she'd once traced them with her hand. Something she allows the barest hint of to leak into her eyes.
—[X] As she speaks, a brazen light glimmers kindles into a subtle presence on her forehead. It's neither light nor dark, but it is absolutely steady and utterly uncaring of mundane obstructions.
—-[X] " For this most serious purpose alone will I share this with you. It should be no surprise that I have access to Elder knowledge. Among that lies what is needed to set right all unnatural joinings of spirit - even this one"
—-[X] Her voice did not drip with sweet venom, nor burn with power, but for a moment it seems to make the shadows shiver and light waver as something that cannot break traces across a world that can. "It is not always without physical consequences, but it is survivable with preparation and it will break any control of the mind, cast out any possession of the spirit, and cut out any usurpation of the senses regardless of the will or power of target."
Good night guys, see you tomorrow as we face most likely... He Who Walks Besides.
You know normal Halloween exorcisms.
You know normal Halloween exorcisms.
Oh, Mab has enough pull to just get Maeve in on short notice and hold her for exorcism? Neat.
She is the boss of Meave yes, I can say that much without spoilers. As long as the presence does not suspect it would have no reason to refuse a summons.
She'd also need to hold her in place somehow for an hour. I am looking forward to see how this goes.
For this I kinda expect Uriel to be allowed to drop in. Especially if we manifest our world-body at the same time.Whoops.
Should really have brought Michael, huh?
This bode well for having 20 Xp to buy our hell past this arc, let's see if we can predict a little of what we'll probably get, low estimation:
-Car for Mab, at least 1XP
-Meeting with Laura, at least 1Xp
-Learn about Nemesis infection, probably 1Xp
-Seeing and capturing spy, at least 1Xp
-Interrogation, probably 1Xp
-Meeting with Mab, at least 1Xp
-Giving info and getting info, at least 1Xp
-Exorcism, at least 1Xp
That's all for now, and that's a very low estimation at 8Xp, but very, very likely that there are several 2 to 3 Xp amongst that, and that we'll do more before the end of the day, also that I am forgetting something, so 20 Xp seems plausible, and the QM himself telling us to brush our Hell's creation kits tells me that it is even more plausible.
They are raksha who play the stories of exaltations...
Question about this for when you're back online; since we picked the option of eating temporary spirits/ fractions of spirits split off to do things for power with MiM if we manage to "kill" an instance of Nemesis after we pull it out but before it slips away do we reduce its host cap until and unless it heals?
If dude didn't intervene when the Queen of Summer murdered the Queen of Winter, committed suicide and then was going to have her corpse defiled as some sort of Outsider plot? If he didn't stop Nicodemus and company setting off the Black Plague? Didn't show up when Cowl and allies were trying to sacrifice a good chunk of Chicago's 3 million people as fuel for an ascension ritual?
He certainly isn't going to show up here for the exorcism of one woman. He might keep watch, but I dont expect him to show up.
This is all mortal/mortal-adjacent business, apparently.
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In fairness, showing up and taking action aren't the same things for him. For a lot of those events he was likely Rube-Goldburging around pushing people into the position to help.
Even if he doesn't do that here, which would be somewhat strange since mentoring Molly is now an official duty of the knights/Micheal in particular, his observation level is probably going to be something like this:
Which is close enough.
