[X] Yes
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Crossover Fantasy
Technically it's three favors with one of them going to voiding previous transgressions, Molly suspects Mab suggested this format because she thinks humans are short sighted and greedy and might ask for the three favors leaving the transgressions in place
See above, Winter is not naturally inclined to think the best of people.
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- USA
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- He/They
[X] Yes
There are more souls in worse positions we can use open favours from the Winter Queen to build capacity to save sooner.
Namely the souls languishing in the Hells past their sentence.
I say take the deal as is, it's so valuable that having the Winter Queen in your debt would be a terrifying curse for a wise mortal.
Freeing Harry is one thing, sure, but this could translate to war materials or unfathomable experienced veterans to train our eventual soldiers or access to the most eldritch secrets to personal tuition by great fae masters of an art.
The deal as is can empower Molly to bring justice to the damned that much sooner and ably.
[X] Yes
Namely the souls languishing in the Hells past their sentence.
I say take the deal as is, it's so valuable that having the Winter Queen in your debt would be a terrifying curse for a wise mortal.
Freeing Harry is one thing, sure, but this could translate to war materials or unfathomable experienced veterans to train our eventual soldiers or access to the most eldritch secrets to personal tuition by great fae masters of an art.
The deal as is can empower Molly to bring justice to the damned that much sooner and ably.
[X] Yes
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Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
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- ALSO SCREAMING.
You have certainly not undermined my belief that Mab is a sweetheart.
I really want to surprise her by just burning the favors to raise our friendship with her court an appropriate level of notches.
Frankly we should never spend the last favor. We should absolutely pull a Mab with it. Just the FACT that we have an open ended favor with basically no limits but existentential ones for WINTER ITSELF is a giant fuck off hammer that's going to make even entire FACTIONS hesitate to take a swing at us. It's a fuck all giant death curse waiting to happen because we can, if all is lost and we are feeling spiteful, make Winter an ETERNAL ENEMY to your faction. Winter wouldn't push that vendetta to the detriment of their internal politics or readiness to defend the gates, but that remains DAMNED far.
"Mab, I want you, and all those who serve under you, to the very limits of your power, to oppose the Red Court, at every opportunity and through every means you think I would not find morally abhorrent, for so long as Winter is capable and that the Red Court exist in any form or under any name, right up to the absolute limit of this favor and what it can compel of both you and Winter."
This is not a nuke in our back pocket. This is an endless nuclear barrage in our back pocket.
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@DragonParadox to the best of Molly's understanding of how the ritual works, would Nemesis be able to harm Maeve in the process of exorcism the like the wicked spirit of yomi was able to harm its host?
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- Scotland
[X] Yes
Should be at 10/12.
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- Dallas Texas
At the very least, we should make sure not to make said favors painful to fulfill, and show that we will use said favors in full good faith.
Buying off Dresden's debt is an option, but having a favor ready to buy it off is just as valuable, if we ever need to.
[X] Yes
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She is going to take lethal damage in the process, but the Lady can certainly soak lethal damage and given the scope of Mab's powers she can heal her once it's done. She might even be able to heal herself.
You guys spent 2 Essence on charms coming in here I just forgot to mark them.
And honestly I think if we told Harry the sheer SCOPE of the favor Mab will owe us he would tell us 100% to not waste it getting him out of his debt. Harry, at the end of the day, has the ability to say no in his contract without cause. Mab has not left herself that option, and Mab is worth a whole lot more than Harry when it comes to favors.
Harry wants out of Mab's debt, but he knows that at the end of the day she can't ask of him anything he absolutely refuses to do.
Harry wants out of Mab's debt, but he knows that at the end of the day she can't ask of him anything he absolutely refuses to do.
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Manifesting in the city that you are under the green sun that is your heart, don't worry Molly, you will learn to be more one day.
Pretty sure Harry just got a heart attack bu proxy without even knowing why.
Hey, it's a classic for a reason, she never said the anima flare was her casting IPP, not her fault it can be seen like that.
Nearest mortal watching this conversation:
"Agugugu"
*Brain is leaking from their ears*
Good thing we did this at Mac's and with no one with us, good god, the number of legendary and beyond legendary rolls there… just show that, as someone pointed out, for all our murdenblender competence we are a social exalt, trading punches at high level when it comes to politics.
[X] Yes
At this point, take the offer, it is already quite big.
Do you want him to faint? Because that's how you make him faint, just saying.
Manifesting in the city that you are under the green sun that is your heart, don't worry Molly, you will learn to be more one day.
Pretty sure Harry just got a heart attack bu proxy without even knowing why.
Hey, it's a classic for a reason, she never said the anima flare was her casting IPP, not her fault it can be seen like that.
Nearest mortal watching this conversation:
"Agugugu"
*Brain is leaking from their ears*
Good thing we did this at Mac's and with no one with us, good god, the number of legendary and beyond legendary rolls there… just show that, as someone pointed out, for all our murdenblender competence we are a social exalt, trading punches at high level when it comes to politics.
[X] Yes
At this point, take the offer, it is already quite big.
Do you want him to faint? Because that's how you make him faint, just saying.
Harry picks himself off the floor from where he had fallen down, his knees having given out under the sheer magnitude of what Molly had. He gripped her firmly by the shoulders and looked her dead in the eye. "Molly, you are under no circumstance and under no condition to use such a powerful favor to free me from my debt. There is no POSIBLE way such a thing will come around again and you absolutely cannot waste it like that."
"But Harry," Molly blinked, looking back at him with false innocence as pure as the undriven snow. "I have two of them!"
Thud.
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- Location
- Germany
Are you sure?
Nemesis is a mental and maybe soul-affecting thing, but it deliberatly causes no physical changes to keep it nearly undetectable.
Being a Formori means that you are merged in body and soul with the bane and violently severing that is what causes the damage.
No other form of possession or mindcontrol in the Exorcism-text causes damage.
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[X] Yes
Holy hell, wow. This was intense.
Holy hell, wow. This was intense.
Nemesis is bound at least as tightly as a Formor.
Still, better to warn Mab
[X] Yes
-[X] Warn her that Nemesis will not go quietly and will try to harm its host as it is exorcised.
I agree with you in all the details, but I think it's worth noting that Harry's case seemed to involve a larger portion of Nemesis as an entity. Since it's split up it wouldn't surprise me if an infecting chunk was more like fighting once tentacle from a squid than the whole animal (or some arbitrary large portion of it where the metaphor breaks down) so to speak.
Exactly like the soul shard we ate when gaining the ability to consume temporary spirits in the first place.
Still needs to be taken very seriously, but isn't necessarily going to be the same difficulty of a fight.
I think Mab knows this and part of what she intends is to go in and incapacitate Maeve completely. If Maeve isn't delivered to us unconscious and sealed in a block of ice formed from the heart of the coldest glacier unable to so much as blink or be aware that she even exists I will be shocked at Mab's carelessness.
There is zero reason for Maeve or Nemesis to be allowed to know what is about to happen until it is already happened. We don't need their consent or even participation save having access to them.
But sure, let's make absolutely sure we are all on the same page. Overcommunication is good.
[X] Yes
-[X] Warn her that Nemesis will not go quietly and will try to harm its host as it is exorcised.
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