- Location
- Germany
Close lead for only having Thomas with us, bigger lead for Yog's questions.
Current Archive is barely a teenager. Unless you are positing that the mantle hijacks the host completely.If attempting to lock the Fae out was ever a serious consideration(remember that we only have Thomas' word for it, and he's barely 40, while the Archive has been fighting the Oblivion War for 5000 years)?
It would have been the Archive's idea, and discarded centuries ago.
Interesting that there's no sense of familiarity about Forgotten Ones from our exaltation. So, they are not Yozi or (at least these ones) Neverborn. Unshaped maybe?
Damn, my reading comprehension is just bad, isn't it?Er... there is, that is what scared Molly there, it feels like when she is trying to turn the crown inward.
The Old Ones are an ancient race of demons or gods. They once ruled the mortal world, but were later cast out and locked away from reality.[2] Being primal spiritual entities, they cannot ever truly be destroyed. Not all are Outside, however; some, like the one known as the Sleeper, are on Earth, but imprisoned and entombed.[3]
Even today, they can be still active, feeding on psychic energy, primarily the fear and awareness of them present in humanity.[3] For that reason, the Venatori seek to wipe out knowledge, and thus influence, of the Old Ones in the Oblivion War.[4] The existence of the Old Ones is also one of the last things wizard apprentices learn about in a traditional apprenticeship.[3]
The Outsiders act as their servants and foot soldiers.[2]
The only known Old One so far is the Lord of the Slowest Terror.[5]
Who or what is stupid enough to think that ambushing us together with Lara and Thomas is a clever idea?
Unless they have a Naagloshii and 2 or more Elder Vampires this is doomed to fail
It doesn't have to be an ambush to be an attempted assassination. If they want it badly enough, have the necessary resources, and completely disregard any concern for collateral damage, there are plenty of muggle methods of killing everyone in Thomas' place of business. The Red Court has had great success with nerve gas, IIRC, and a truck bomb is relatively easy to slap together when you've got access to military grade explosives.Who or what is stupid enough to think that ambushing us together with Lara and Thomas is a clever idea?
Unless they have a Naagloshii and 2 or more Elder Vampires this is doomed to fail
Yeah, I would definitly not bet on us or Lara dying to such tricks.It doesn't have to be an ambush to be an attempted assassination. If they want it badly enough, have the necessary resources, and completely disregard any concern for collateral damage, there are plenty of muggle methods of killing everyone in Thomas' place of business. The Red Court has had great success with nerve gas, IIRC, and a truck bomb is relatively easy to slap together when you've got access to military grade explosives.
The Outsiders, and those who ally with them, only play by the so-called rules when it's in their best interest to keep up appearances.
Honestly, the description of the Old Ones are practically screaming that they are the Yozi.
OOC: I know you guys are impatient to get on to Mab, but this is new information so it makes sense to give you the chance to choose who to take now rather than use the last vote.
Keep in mind Molly's skills are not perfectly known by people who are not her, including Lara.
Seize the moment! Lara's plan is on the side of angels here, and is viable. So, let's help her here. Also, it's possible that we'll discover Thomas's girlfriend here as Nemesis host.
True, but the question being asked won't reveal that, probably. We'll probably want to look at the victim's body or apartment or personal belongings for that.Or that she's the killer.
She is the prime suspect OOC for me right now.
It's an easy swing to take, all things considered, especially when you don't actually care about the consequences of your actions. If it succeeds, great, if not, oh well, better luck next time.Yeah, I would definitly not bet on us or Lara dying to such tricks.
We don't have a perfect defence yet, but we are certainly quite hardy.
Such an attack is not free.It's an easy swing to take, all things considered, especially when you don't actually care about the consequences of your actions. If it succeeds, great, if not, oh well, better luck next time.
Even if Lara survives, such an attack could greatly inconvenience her if the perpetrators or someone else made it known that famous, retired adult film star Lara Romany, was at the scene of the incident and definitely one of the victims. Goodbye public persona, hello new identity. For a White Court Vampire like Lara, that would be a real blow against her power and prestige.
That's true. If we are committed to being bait, I think we should make prep work - lay down the trails to lure in the predators and such.[X] Plan Bait
-[X] Stick with the plan to go alone and meet Thomas there.
-[X] Use Steel Skin before entering Thomas Salon, looking freaky is not in itself a bad thing here.
Getting allies there might spoil the trap.
There is a solid chance that we would look much the same as an Outsider shard or completely stripped down and reengineered puppet, at least to people who look at us in the right way. And its possible that Lara is one of the good guys... is making this particular move with as close to good intentions as is possible for her... and legitimately sees us as the most recent representative of the Outsider threat. Our little band of miscreants being fools suckered in by an Outsider's bargain, since we know that White Court Vampires can and have had their Hunger's edited into more convenient shapes that ways.Er... there is, that is what scared Molly there, it feels like when she is trying to turn the crown inward.
They're not original Yozi, they're the Yozi-equivalents of one of the kalpa between Now and Creation. History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme, again and again and again. Why do you think YHWH doesn't want us scrying him and his paradoxical three-fetich self?I still reckon they're more Neverborn than Yozi.
The Yozi and their demons just aren't so antithetical to existence and the fabric of reality.
Whereas the Neverborn and their servants are WRONG and entirely willing to take any and all approaches to achieve their goals.
I'd also ask how the Yozi got out of Hell when they are Hell.