NWS shows the event that the target considers her greatest sin. I am fairly sure that "interfering with the Winter Lady's mantle out of familial love which led to long term damage to Winter's cause, created an unsuitable WInter Lady and ultimately might have doomed Creation through Nemesis infecting Winter Lady, which she now has to plan to kill" would be what current Mab would consider her lowest point.
1)Literally her saving Winter from corruption and the earth from a major apocalypse.
If that isn't her greatest triumph, its up there in the top ten.
2)It doesn't actually say she damaged Winter. Just that she loved her children enough and was sufficiently strong willed that she got the Winter Queen Mantle to shift. Just a bit. You know, like Winter Lady Molly has done in canon by using Winter to deliver Christmas gifts to Chicago, or Mab delivering personal gifts to Dresden's daughter Maggie.
Winter is capable of some nuance if you know where to look for it. Santa Claus is Winter as well.
And given that Bob got this tale at second hand from Fae nobles, its entirely possible that important details are wrong.
3)That is not true.
Maeve was not Mab's first Winter Lady. We don't know what happened to her predecessor; whether in this AU or in canon.
The Winter Lady Mantle definitely did not drop on Maeve as a baby.
Nor was Maeve's infection her fault; she was targeted, same as the Leanansidhe was targeted.
Mab would feel no guilt there either.
1) You are making my point for me. A 10+ success on a contested roll would be much more impressive.
2) It was absolutely something to brag about.
1) No I wasnt
2) Not against an ex-angel.
Its a lot like boasting about outwrestling an Olympic wrestler when he literally just stood there and let you do whatever you wanted.
The issue is that the probability of Hellscry chakra being able to detect Nemesis in Maeve is negligible. She's already a creature of darkness twice over (winter fae, and Winter Lady's mantle holder), she is already under a separate magical influence / possessed (Winter Lady's Mantle), before Nemesis even comes into equation. And we'd have to have an IC reason to try and see it in Maeve. Hellscry is an active charm that we need to actually activate. SO, we'd need to first suspect Maeve is possessed in order to try and use it on her. At which point we likely won't need to use it on her, because we'd have used the Crown.
Not. Actually. True.
If you looked up what you can do by perceiving a person's aura, you would KNOW its not true.
I just can't pull up the copies of the cited spots in V20; Im not home.
You can tell if a vampire has committed diablerie.
You can distinguish between Vampire, Baali, Fae, Fallen and Nephandus. You can tell when a Vampire is Dominating another Vampire. You can perceive demonic possession of a vampire by looking at its aura, even though they are already undead.
Its well established that you can perceive nuance in a person's aura just fine, even if they are a CoD.
Thats how Karmic Sight works in V20, and how apparently Mages use Prime as a sensory modality in M20.
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Furthermore, Justine, a vanilla human who is Thomas Raith's girlfriend and Lara Raith's personal assistant?
Mother of Harry Dresden's nephew?
ALSO canonically infected by Nemesis
And also a vector for Infection of multiple power blocs.
From the White Court to our personal financial manager.
And almost successfully used to destroy Demonreach.
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We don't need an excuse to justify looking at Mab's daughter and the fourth most powerful person in Winter after Mother Winter, Mab and the Leanansidhe. If we could justify looking at a random bartender in a supernatural dive bar in Chicago, we can justify looking into Maeve quite thoroughly.
TO be fair, the descriptions of the skills do indicate that, in order to actually make arguments, we need to roll Expression, and Empathy is to understand others, not persuading them (with arguments). We might be able to make an emotional appeal with it, but not an argued one.
I AM being fair.
His own quote says, and I quote:
Empathy
You understand the emotions of others, and can sympathize with, feign sympathy for, or play on such emotions as you see fit. You are adept at discerning motive, and might be able to discern when someone's lying to you. However, you may be so in tune with other people's feelings that your own emotions are affected.
Literally convincing people by playing on their emotions is explicitly stated.
Earth-Destroyer is just wrong.
