Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

It still takes active action from Molly to have any effect.

If we are there to push someone, sure that works.
But during simultaneous breaches we won't be, pretty much by definition.
And also we would have to spend actions on protecting our vamps, rather than cutting down the Akuma.
To my understanding, Molly walking into this scene with a warparty and giving instructions? Counts for the scene.

Just like she doesnt have to micromanage every little thing for a minion enjoying Mercy In Servitude, or make individual things go wrong in an organization she has hit with Endless Torment Emanation. Or how the Crown reads off intent/spirit of the question asked and not just the letter, which is why we are sure J is unguarded.

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I honestly can't remember how ways are opened in dresden files I know there are several methods to get through a way. But, like is it a two way portal, a slip through crack in reality where you can only be on one side, a pop in your in and out, or even varying depending on who you are? Wouldn't be surprised if your particularly unlucky you just fall into some gaps during Halloween. I know WE and probably future friends have different methods to get in and powers. But, what about in canon? Cause I honestly didn't pay too much attention to the visuals.
Depends.

For wizards, its a two way portal.
You can open it and go through then close it. Or open it and stand there to keep it open.
I THINK you can open it and leave it open, but it will close on its own, at varying rates.

Other creatures treat it differently.

Vampires can open Ways at places of either personal significance or species resonance to them, depending on the type; Blacks gravitate to graveyards and death-aspected places, Reds to places where blood was spilled from slaughterhouses to battlefields, and Raith House Whites to sex clubs and the like.

Fae can open Ways for themselves anywhere, or just step over; whether they can open it for other people depends on how strong the Fae itself is. Someone like Lea can move whole warparties, or essentially teleport; Toot Toot can just move himself.

Ghosts move themselves, and only themselves.

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Thats just Dresdenverse.
Kueijin can use Rituals or Disciplines to cross into the spirit worlds, and there are different mechanics for each.
 
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You might speak, offer comfort, but you have no voice, only eyes that see... too much. On through stone like it was air to one of the metal buildings that had passed though the hand of time best, the roof is still mostly blue, not rusted solid, the door is still intact, still locked. At the back on a sleeping spot of rags and blankets is Debora holding her baby as far away from the hollow eyed man, playing with the gun in his hand, pointing it now at her, now at at himself. Bakemono, you recognize him, and of that pittiful kindred also you recognize the girl giggling to herself in the corner.

Across the tracks there is another building, mostly intact and filled with far more furnishing beside, pots, pans an electric stove tossed in the corner, a hose leading out the window and in the air the lingering acrid smell of something foul to more than mortal senses, a place of ruin and ruin indeed it was still.
Site A and Site B, the buildings where Deborah+ baby and the other humans are being held, are across from each other.
Separated by train tracks.
Action in one will be heard in the other. But it does mean that we have line of sight coverage from one to the other.

If we approach along the train tracks, we just split there.
 
Semblance of the Ebon Dragon (Yin Prana 5) allows shifting between the material and spirit worlds by shifting to a spirit form at the cost of 3 yin chi as an instant action.

And the update stated that to reach J we would just have to open a gate anywhere in southworks, so I assume the akuma could potentially do that too.

Of course it may not have the needed discipline and be using the normal Rites for nevernever access, in which case those take way too long to be tactically relevant.

About the lesser akuma and sunlight I meant more that Wan Kuei suffer major dice penalties during the day in WoD, regardless of sunlight exposure. While DF vampires aren't as limited, given how severe the effects are in WoD for younger Wan Kuei I was assuming they would still have serious if less harsh problems.
 
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To my understanding, Molly walking into this scene with a warparty and giving instructions? Counts for the scene.

Just like she doesnt have to micromanage every little thing for a minion enjoying Mercy In Servitude, or make individual things go wrong in an organization she has hit with Endless Torment Emanation. Or how the Crown reads off intent/spirit of the question asked and not just the letter, which is why we are sure J is unguarded.

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MiS is supposed to work on minions.

TLoF is pretty clearly written to apply to the Infernal herself.
System: The Infernal needs never make a Survival roll to remain safe, comfortable, and fed in hostile, barren environments such as deserts, tundra, or areas of urban blight. The difficulty to feed and protect others in such environments is reduced by three (minimum of 3). By spending 1 Essence, she becomes completely immune to environmental damage for the rest of the scene
So if Molly personally shoves someone out of the way of a falling wall it would apply, but I don't see any single line that it reduces the difficulty of our minion's actions.
 
About the lesser akuma and sunlight I meant more that Wan Kuei suffer major dice penalties during the day in WoD, regardless of sunlight exposure. While DF vampires aren't as limited, given how severe the effects are in WoD for younger Wan Kuei, I was assuming they would still have serious if less harsh problems.
Are you sure about that?
I just searched the entire KotE book for the word sunlight, and I only found the parts about taking damage and having to sleep.
No word on reduced dicepools like the Kinjin.
 
Semblance of the Ebon Dragon (Yin Prana 5) allows shifting between the material and spirit worlds by shifting to a spirit form at the cost of 3 yin chi as an instant action. Chi Rift (Tapestry 5) would allow opening a gate in three turns, also for 3 chi.

And the update stated that to reach J we would just have to open a gate anywhere in southworks, so I assume the akuma could potentially do that too.

Of course it may not have the needed discipline and be using the normal Rites for nevernever access, in which case those take way to0 long to be tactically relevant.

About the lesser akuma and sunlight I meant more that Wan Kuei suffer major dice penalties during the day in WoD, regardless of sunlight exposure. While DF vampires aren't as limited, given how severe the effects are in WoD for younger Wan Kuei, I was assuming they would still have serious if less harsh problems.
1) Not quite:
5 · Semblance Of The Ebon Dragon ·
The vampire channels Yin through her corpse to transform her entire body into a cloud of pure Yin energy. In this form, she's completely intangible, although she may travel the roads of the Dead and deal with the ghosts of the Dark Kingdom of Jade.

System: Except for the different type of Chi used to activate it, and the fact that the vampire enters the Yin World rather than the Yang World, this power is identical to Semblance of the Scarlet Queen.

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5Semblance Of The Scarlet Queen ·
The vampire floods his entire body with Yang energy in one mighty pulse, transforming him into Yang-substance. In this form, the vampire essentially distills himself to his spirit nature; he may walk among the clouds and treat with the lords of the Yang World.

System: The vampire concentrates for a turn, then spends three Yang Points and rolls Yang + Rituals against a difficulty of the local Wall. If successful, the vampire's body turns to spirit-stuff formed from ray Yang energy, and the vampire passes into the Yang World. While in spirit form, the vampire is invisible and incorporeal to material beings, although he can choose to become visible. He may pass freely through barriers and the like, and material attacks are incapable of affecting him. The vampire can affect and be affected by Yang-spirits (through the use of Hun, P'o, and Willpower). For purposes of spirit combat, the vampire can withstand an amount of damage equal to his health levels + permanent Yang rating. Chi-based attacks (such as Yin ghost-flame) affect him normally. He may be affected by mental attacks, such as the Soul Disciplines, provided the wielder of the power can perceive him at all. The vampire remains in the spirit form until she chooses to re-cross the Wall into the material world (rolling against a difficulty of the local Wall to do so). She may explore the Yang World as she chooses, interacting with the bizarre and terrifying spirits of that place. While in spirit form, the vampire doesn't spend Chi to animate herself, but does spend Chi normally to activate powers and heal her spirit body.
It requires a turn and a roll.
So yes, he can do it but its neither instant or assured. Still something to be aware of.


As for Wan Kuei, I dont recall any penalties applying to just being awake in daytime while being out of the sun.
Besides, given the gusto of the torture session ongoing right now? I think its safe to assume that either those penalties dont apply in this AU, or all these guys have taken measures(Investments, magic, whatever) to negate them.
 
MiS is supposed to work on minions.
TLoF is pretty clearly written to apply to the Infernal herself.

So if Molly personally shoves someone out of the way of a falling wall it would apply, but I don't see any single line that it reduces the difficulty of our minion's actions.
It applies to us leading them as a party. As well as actions we take for their protection. Thats where the whole thing comes in.
It wouldnt be worth very much if we had to do stuff like individually check their shoes to protect them against breaking their ankles on rocky ground for example.

At least thats my understanding.
QM gets to rule, I guess.
 
Sorry I wasn't being clear about what I meant.

You are right they just have a really hard time staying awake and as akuma don't have Dharma ratings they would be rolling straight Hun to avoid dropping into slumber.

They have a much harder time staying awake compared to kindred as they are rolling 1-3 dice compared to the typical 5+, I just thought DP would include this to some degree.

Edit: I just noticed a weird bit of RAW, Wan Kuei use spirit traits while in the spirit world and their effective Rage is based on the P'o virtue, this would mean that a Greater Akuma has 0 Rage as they have no P'o virtue making them incapable of directly harming others with normal combat while there. This is clearly a mechanical oversight but it is amusing.
 
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[X]Plan Dynamic Entry
-[X]Battle Order 1: Pass out any holy water or blessed oils to anyone who wants some
-[X]Battle Order 2: Rally point 20 yards/1x Movement turn from torture building, and camped by Team 4
-[X]Battle Order 3: Explosives on door to Deborah cell by Team 1
-[X]Battle Order 4: Explosives on exterior wall to torture house by Team 2; TLF applies to avoiding damage to pinned Whampires
-[X]Battle Order 5: Way to be opened by Team 3 at rally point
-[X]Battle Order 6: Have Lydia throw Molly in a bottle through the window. Dexterity Excellency.
-[X]Battle Order 7: Simultaneous go on Molly's call
-[X]Molly scenelongs: Anima + Demon Aspects + Boiling Sea Mastery(0m) + Steelskin(1m) + Viridian Legends Exoskeleton(1m) + All Things Betray(1wp) + Imperial Primacy Mantle(1wp): 2m, 2wp
-[X]Tasking
--[X]Team 1: Brother Devsimar + Valkyrie runecaller + 1x Infantry squad: Deborah + baby + bakemono
--[X]Team 2: Molly + Gard + Murphy + Lydia + constructs + 1x Infantry squad: Torture room
--[X]Team 3: Dresden + Michael + 1x Infantry squad: J
--[X]Team 4: 1x Heavy weapons squad: Rally point reserve
-[X]STUNT: You return from the rally point at a rapid trot, your eyes running over the squad of hardbitten soldiers before you, noting the prepared demo charges and finding nothing amiss. Your eyes meet the squad leader's, then Gard's, Murphy and Lydia's in succession. "On my mark.". At the nods, you close your eyes for a brief moment to breathe a quick prayer, then squeeze Lydia's forearm, brass-sheathed fingers leaving oil stains on her jacket. "Mark!" you bark into the tactical radio, then let it drop. Lydia hesitates for a moment until you vanish, then glows as she hurls the bottle at the window.


MOLLY STATUS
Start: 8/12 Essence, 7/9wp
Spent: 2m, 2wp
End: 6/12 Essence, 5/9wp

ATB: -3DC to Perception rolls
Steelskin: +Soak
VLE: +Soak
BSM: -1DC to all rolls
IPM: Defense against mental and emotional attack
Anima: Surprise negator active


LYDIA STATUS
Start: 6/6 Essence, 5/5 WP
Spent: 1m Essence
End: 5/6 Essence, 5/5 WP

Anima active.
Dex Excellency active.


RATIONALE
Devsimar is Shih, and so has experience with bakemono.
He has also met Deborah last night.
So he goes to retrieve her and the bakemono, backed up by a Valk and a squad.

Dresden and Michael have worked together multiple times. Even walked into the NeverNever together.
So they are a natural fit for working together. And Michael has the charisma to talk down a spooked mortal.
Plus, since they open the Way right next to the torture building, they have the quickest chance of being back fast.

Molly takes Gard and Lydia to the torture room.
Gard is a Chooser of the Slain, and Lydia an Exigent of Death. They both enjoy situational bonuses against undead.
Molly as an angry Infernal with Demonic Primacy of Essence has a chance of triggering

Lydia goes with Molly because of
•Her anima power will probably force any akuma or ghost that are immaterial or invisible to materialize or become visible.
•Her Authority of the Psychopomp stands a good chance of triggering wave soul in any akuma.
•She can also lay ghosts and undead to rest permanently, and regain Essence for doing so
 
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I'm going to go with the more generous application of TLoF because it is cinematic to have the very matter of a place of desolation bend to your will so as not to harm those under your control... also ominous for anyone watching, but that is infernals for you :V
 
Ah. Thanks.

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1)How many movement turns for a merc squad or one of Molly's allies to move from the torture building to a spot above the Jade Dog cistern? This assumes Molly can move at least 3x as fast as they can without spending Essence

2)Can Lydia throw a glass bottle of water through the torture buildings window?

3)Are there any flashbangs available?
 
Ah. Thanks.

@DragonParadox
QUESTION
1)How many movement turns for a merc squad or one of Molly's allies to move from the torture building to a spot above the Jade Dog cistern? This assumes Molly can move at least 3x as fast as they can without spending Essence

2)Can Lydia throw a glass bottle of water through the torture buildings window?

3)Are there any flashbangs available?
  1. 4 movement turns going full speed for them, I am averaging things out because Harry is not as good at running as Gard, Michael and the trained mercs
  2. Yes, though she might want to use an excellency. Her Dex+Athletics is only 5, which is good in normal circumstances, but this is not really normal
  3. Yes, all the mercs have them, as well as more damaging grenades
 
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Edit: I just noticed a weird bit of RAW, Wan Kuei use spirit traits while in the spirit world and their effective Rage is based on the P'o virtue, this would mean that a Greater Akuma has 0 Rage as they have no P'o virtue making them incapable of directly harming others with normal combat while there. This is clearly a mechanical oversight but it is amusing.

I think the answer for that from White Wolf back in the day is that Greater Akuma count as having a Hun and P'o rating equal to the sum of what they had before (as their two souls have been combined into one). So if they had seven of each before they virtually have fourteen of each now.

That way they can still use Demonic Disciplines and roll Hun and P'o ratings.
 
  1. 4 movement turns going full speed for them, I am averaging things out because Harry is not as good at running as Gard, Michael and the trained mercs
  2. Yes, though she might want to use an excellency. Her Dex+Athletics is only 5, which is good in normal circumstances, but this is not really normal
  3. Yes, all the mercs have them, as well as more damaging grenades
1)That seems workable.
By the time they get there Molly is almost all the way through the roof.
And she can carry 1x person while flying.

2)Should she? Dex IS a Key Attribute for her, so she cant botch.
And tossing something through a window should be a simple pass/fail at DC6. On the other hand, she should be able to afford the Essence in a fight against undead and summons from Yomi Wan.

I'll draft the stunt to have her thrown through the window in a bottle. Should have called the plan Fastball Special...

3)Cool, cool.
 
Okay, stunt writeup as follows:

[]STUNT: You return from the rally point at a rapid trot, your eyes running over the squad of hardbitten soldiers before you, noting the prepared demo charges and finding nothing amiss. Your eyes meet the squad leader's, then Gard's, Murphy and Lydia's in succession. "On my mark.". At the nods, you close your eyes for a brief moment to breathe a quick prayer, then squeeze Lydia's forearm, brass-sheathed fingers leaving oil stains on her jacket. "Mark!" you bark into the tactical radio, then let it drop. Lydia hesitates for a moment until you vanish, then glows as she hurls the bottle at the window.
 
I know we've talked about Cyber-Devil piloted drones previously, and Lydia's got her wooden combat puppets now (which I hope we'll be helping her to refine and upgrade soon), but what about suicide drones? At least I don't remember it being discussed recently.

With Cyber-Devils overcoming the need for remote control or complex guidance systems, it should be relatively simple to weaponize common flying RC toys well before commercially available quad-copter drones become available. The biggest challenge would be getting our hands on the explosives, and that's hardly a challenge for us at this point.

I wish we had already done this, as a small fleet of kamikaze RC helicopters could have been very helpful in the upcoming confrontation.
 
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