Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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[X] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet
-[X]Etiquette Excellency. -1 Essence.
-[X]STUNT: You make an effort of will to draw on your understanding, and a crown of green fire flickers to life on your brow, eyes searching the darkness for the rest of the pack. The malk flinches visibly at the fire, and you alter your body posture in response, spreading your hands as words come to your mouth. "Be not afraid, winterfae. You shall come to no harm at my hands here as long as you offer no violence in return. Name yourself, and your pack, and explain why you come here unbidden to make accusations of falsehood to one who has not met you before."


RATIONALE
We've spent 6 Essence so far down here. If we spend any more Essence, we should expect to glow
And glowing both activates our Aspects and anima power.
No ambushes happening here.

Our Intimidation and Etiquette ratings are both at 4. So use Etiquette first.

We're rolling Social at Cha/Man 3 + Etiquette 4 + Excellency 7 + Stunt 2 = 16 dice.
Demonic Primacy of Essence gives -2 DC.
Transcendent Lord of Flies triggers in urban blight for -3 DC (keeping the Jade Dogs safe).
 
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Can we just punt the cat?
I don't apprechiate being insulted before an introduction even.
-Insults at first meet are basically a Dresden Files staple. Harry does it all the time, to people a lot bigger than he is.
He who rages loses.

-Like I said earlier, malks travel in packs of 20. Molly could take them alone, but it gets her nothing to do so.
Figuring out why they are desperate, and exploiting that to make a deal, actually pays off for her.
It also reduces the chances of their coming back to attempt to sabotage stuff we've already fixed.

-There's also the small possibility that they have a legitimate grievance.
If someone has been passing themselves off as Molly down here, for example, we probably want to know about it.
 
[X] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet
-[X]Etiquette Excellency. -1 Essence.
-[X]STUNT: You make an effort of will to draw on your understanding, and a crown of green fire flickers to life on your brow, eyes searching the darkness for the rest of the pack. The malk flinches visibly at the fire, and you alter your body posture in response, spreading your hands as words come to your mouth. "Be not afraid, winterfae. You shall come to no harm at my hands here as long as you offer no violence in return. Name yourself, and your pack, and explain why you come here unbidden to make accusations of falsehood to one who has not met you before."
 
[X] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet
-[X]Etiquette Excellency. -1 Essence.
-[X]STUNT: You make an effort of will to draw on your understanding, and a crown of green fire flickers to life on your brow, eyes searching the darkness for the rest of the pack. The malk flinches visibly at the fire, and you alter your body posture in response, spreading your hands as words come to your mouth. "Be not afraid, winterfae. You shall come to no harm at my hands here as long as you offer no violence in return. Name yourself, and your pack, and explain why you come here unbidden to make accusations of falsehood to one who has not met you before."
You sure you want to demand its name if you are de-escalating?
 
Yes.
Im asking for its name, what its known by. Not its Name.
It can always decline.

If I wanted to be rude, I'd give it a name.
Then we ask "what are you called". The difference is important.

[X]Yog

Anyways going to sleep. Maybe Yog will change his mind in the short time left.
 
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Then we ask "what are you called". The difference is important.

[X]Yog
Anyways going to sleep.
The only time when it is is when you are compelling a magical creature to name itself, and that requires asking three times in a quasi-ritualistic manner.
Its not being compelled. It can give a name, part of one, or it can decline.

Good night.
 
We already do know that Nemesis doesn't play by normal DF rules. Why should we assume that it plays by Exalt rules either? For all we know, Nemesis could have a means to bypass our Perfect mental defenses.
IIRC there are some things in certain versions of Exalted that can supersede Perfect defenses?

If it can, that's a bug that's due for correction.

The point of Exalted is that if an Exalt prepares accordingly and digs their heels in, no force between heaven and earth can move them, only destroy them. Even the Great Curse can't make them do something utterly anathema to their nature, just exaggerate their nature until it flies out of control, and that was explicitly a One of a Kind, never to be repeated death curse from world builders.

Nemesis doesn't get to just puppet Molly or any Exalt that has a proper mental defense. It can try to trick them, it can try to kill them, it can try to hurt them, but it cannot subvert their Free Will no matter how hard it tries. An Exalt does what they will until stopped, for better or for worse.
 
Guys the ghouls are not literally all behind you and Charity has gone home for the day, it's just you and Lydia here.
Pity.
I guess Mouse is still here at least.
I saw it the first time, the disconnect is on how he'd react. Even a desperation play should have some rationale to it.
Step one is popping up, insulting the arch fiend, and telling her to beat feet. Step two should obviously have something for when she says no. It doesn't have to be a good something, but a play that he doesn't even believe will change anything is a waste of time.
Why would anyone bank on a demon meekly screwing off?

Desperation can make for some stupid decisions, but he's not a panicky teenager who just saw a vampire get serious for the first time; some basic level of "and then what" planning should be in play.
Its entirely in character for fae.
Reference the first time Dresden summons Toot-Toot in the series onscreen.
I retreated to the trees and called the name of the particular faery I wanted. It was a rolling series of syllables, quite beautiful, really—especially since the faery went by the name of Toot-toot every time I'd encountered him before. I pushed my will out along with the name, just made it a call, something that would be subtle enough to make him wander this way of his own accord. Or at least, that was the theory.
What was his name? Please, do you think wizards just give information like that away? You don't know what I went through to get it.
About ten minutes later, Toot came flickering in over the water of Lake Michigan. At first I mistook him for a reflection of the moon on the side of the softly rolling waves of the lake. Toot was maybe six inches tall. He had silver dragonfly's wings sprouting from his back and the pale, beautiful, tiny humanoid form that echoed the splendor of the fae lords. A silver nimbus of ambient light surrounded him. His hair was a shaggy, silken little mane, like a bird of paradise's plumes, and was a pale magenta.
Toot loved bread and milk and honey—a common vice of the lesser fae. They aren't usually willing to take on a nest of bees to get to the honey, and there's been a real dearth of milk in the Nevernever since hi-tech dairy farms took over most of the industry. Needless to say, they don't grow their own wheat, harvest it, thresh it, and then mill it into flour to make bread, either.
Toot alighted on the ground with caution, scanning around the trees. He didn't see me. I saw him wipe at his mouth and walk in a slow circle around the miniature dining set, one hand rubbing greedily at his stomach. Once he took the bread and closed the circle, I'd be able to bargain information for his release. Toot was a lesser spirit in the area, sort of a dockworker of the Nevernever. If anyone had seen anything of Victor Sells, Toot would have, or would know someone who had.
Toot dithered for a while, fluttering back and forth around the meal, but slowly getting closer. Faeries and honey. Moths and flame. Toot had fallen for this several times before, and it wasn't in the nature of the fae to keep memories for very long, or to change their essential natures. All the same, I held my breath.

The faery finally hunkered down, picked up the bread, dipped it in the honey, then greedily gobbled it down. The circle closed with a little snap that occurred just at the edge of my hearing.
Its effect on Toot was immediate. He screamed a shrill little scream, like a trapped rabbit, and took off toward the lake in a buzzing flurry of wings. At the perimeter of the circle, he smacked into something as solid as a brick wall, and a little puff of silver motes exploded out from him in a cloud. Toot grunted and fell onto his little faery ass on the earth.
"I should have known!" he exclaimed, as I approached from the trees. His voice was high-pitched, but more like a little kid's than the exaggerated kind of faery voices I'd heard in cartoons. "Now I remember where I've seen those plates before! You ugly, sneaky, hamhanded, big-nosed, flat-footed mortal worm!"
"Hiya, Toot," I told him. "Do you remember our deal from last time, or do we need to go over it again?"
Toot glared defiantly up at me and stomped his foot on the ground. More silver faery dust puffed out from the impact. "Release me!" he demanded. "Or I will tell the Queen!"
"If I don't release you," I pointed out, "you can't tell the Queen. And you know just as well as I do what she would say about any dewdrop faery who was silly enough to get himself caught with a lure of bread and milk and honey."
Toot crossed his arms defiantly over his chest. "I warn you, mortal. Release me now, or you will feel the awful, terrible, irresistible might of the faery magic! I will rot your teeth from your head! Take your eyes from their sockets! Fill your mouth with dung and your ears with worms!"
"Hit me with your best shot," I told him. "After that, we can talk about what you need to do to get out of the circle."

I had called his bluff. I always did, but he probably wouldn't remember the details very well. If you live a few hundred years, you tend to forget the little things. Toot sulked and kicked up a little spray of dirt with one tiny foot. "You could at least pretend to be afraid, Harry."
"Sorry, Toot. I don't have the time."
"Time, time," Toot complained. "Is that all you mortals can ever think about? Everyone's complaining about time! The whole city rushes left and right screaming about being late and honking horns! You people used to have it right, you know."
I bore the lecture with good nature. Toot could never keep his mind on the same subject long enough to be really trying, in any case.
"Why, I remember the folk who lived here before you pale, wheezy guys came in. And they never complained about ulcers or—" Toot's eyes wandered to the bread and milk and honey again, and glinted. He sauntered that way, then snatched the remaining bread, sopping up all the honey with it and eating it with greedy, birdlike motions.
"This is good stuff, Harry. None of that funny stuff in it that we get sometimes."
"Preservatives," I said.
"Whatever." Toot drank down the milk, too, in a long pull, then promptly fell down on his back, patting at his rounded tummy. "All right," he said. "Now, let me out."
"Not yet, Toot. I need something first."
Toot scowled up at me. "You wizards. Always needing something. I really could do the thing with the dung, you know." He stood up and folded his arms haughtily over his chest, looking up at me as though I weren't a dozen times taller than he. "Very well," he said, his tone lofty. "I have deigned to grant you a single request of some small nature, for the generous gift of your cuisine."
I worked to keep a straight face. "That's very kind of you."
Toot sniffed and somehow managed to look down his little pug nose at me. "It is my nature to be both benevolent and wise."
I nodded, as though this were a very great wisdom. "Uh-huh. Look, Toot. I need to know if you were around this place for the past few nights, or know someone who was. I'm looking for someone, and maybe he came here."
"And if I tell you," Toot said, "I take it you will disassemble this circle which has, by some odd coincidence no doubt, made its way around me?"
"It would be only reasonable," I said, all seriousness.
Toot seemed to consider it, as though he might be inclined not to cooperate, then nodded. "Very well. You will have the information you wish. Release me."
I narrowed my eyes. "Are you sure? Do you promise?"
Toot stamped his foot again, scattering more silver dust motes. "Harry! You're ruining the drama!"
I folded my arms. "I want to hear you promise."
Toot threw up his hands. "Fine, fine, fine! I promise, I promise, I promise! I'll dig up what you want to know!" He started to buzz about the circle in great agitation, wings lifting him easily into the air. "Let me out! Let me out!"
A promise thrice made is as close to absolute truth as you can get from a faery. I went quickly to the circle and scuffed over the line drawn in the dirt with my foot, willing the circle to part. It did, with a little hiss of released energy.
Toot streaked out over Lake Michigan's waters again, a miniature silver comet, and vanished in a twinkling, just like Santa Claus. Though I should say that Santa is a much bigger and more powerful faery than Toot, and I don't know his true name anyway. You'd never see me trying to nab Saint Nick in a magic circle, even if I did. I don't think anyone has stones that big.
I waited around, walking about to keep from falling asleep. If I did that, Toot would be perfectly within his rights as a faery to fulfill his promise by telling me the information while I was sleeping. And, given that I had just now captured and humiliated him, he'd probably do something to even the scales—two weeks from now he wouldn't even remember it, but if I let him have a free shot at me tonight, I might wake up with an ass's head, and I didn't think that would be good for business.
So I paced, and I waited. Toot usually took about half an hour to round up whatever it was I wanted to know.

Hell, we see much the same thing with every summoned demon in Storm Front and Fool Moon.
To be fair he who is vaporized by a pissed off infernal also loses, Harry tends to be rather slow to set things on fire, for all his reputation, that does not mean you have to play Molly like that
Dresden is slow to set humans and property on fire. Nonmortals dont get the same presumption. :V

Thing is, Dresden comes with the imprimatur of the White Council.
There's over a century of precedent about what he can or cannot do.
Friends and foe alike know the limits; they're broadly advertised.

And Dresden doesnt have many vulnerable family or friends for people to take out their ire on.

Molly does not get that presumption. She reads as a hell-lady to almost everyone with the senses to see and smell her magical signature. She does not have a reputation for following supernatural custom. So when we already start with a reputational handicap among the broader community, we really shouldnt worsen it by playing to stereotype.

That may be fine if you chose to play a too school for cool antihero who doesnt need no friends and has a fast gun.
Its not so much if you have a large social circle to watch out for.


This is especially relevant for all the people who immediately default to playing the heavy at the slightest provocation.
They leave us no room to escalate, and they leave hurt feelings behind them that can come back to bite.

Specifically in this vote, the people voting to Intimidate someone that has clearly been noted as desperate/pushed in a corner have not considered that Intimidation might not work. We might hit an Intimacy or geas or other magic-boosted imperative and bounce.
They might spend WP and Join Combat like Adam did, or just flee and come back to trash stuff when we arent here.

Or they might go off and badmouth us to the other winterfae, and we have more trouble in the future.

Its just.....ill-advised to behave in that way.
There are always consequences for that sort of shit with people who arent Dresden.
The stick is only supposed to be your first option with people you have no compunctions killing if necessary.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Dec 18, 2022 at 6:26 AM, finished with 82 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet
    -[X] Etiquette excellency and intimidation excellency
    -[X] Stunt: Once again you draw upon the memories of your encounter with Winter's Queen. You posture shifts slightly, becoming more regal, even as the aura of frost sweeps across the tunnel. Carefully modulating your voice and choosing your words, you speak, offering advice and asking a question in equal measure, lest there is debt created between you and this fae: "Be careful, little hunter, when accusing others of falsehoods unearned or making demands in the territory of others. Some would take offence, unless swift is your explanation and wise are your words. "
    [X] Fairy kind, bound by rules and bindings. You've obviously hit something that makes them feel like you're about to play exterminator. You need to de-escalate so diplomacy has a chance.
    -[X] Etiquette excellency
    -[X] Make a show that you have no weapons bared and no intent on violence, as paltry as that is at the moment. "In the interest of peace, I would offer you a place at my table as a guest and promise that no harm shall come to you should you direct no harm to me and mine." Offer him guest right and protection while under your banner, and in turn gather information.
    [X] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet
    -[X]Etiquette Excellency. -1 Essence.
    -[X]STUNT: You make an effort of will to draw on your understanding, and a crown of green fire flickers to life on your brow, eyes searching the darkness for the rest of the pack. The malk flinches visibly at the fire, and you alter your body posture in response, spreading your hands as words come to your mouth. "Be not afraid, winterfae. You shall come to no harm at my hands here as long as you offer no violence in return. Name yourself, and your pack, and explain why you come here unbidden to make accusations of falsehood to one who has not met you before."
 
Its entirely in character for fae.
Reference the first time Dresden summons Toot-Toot in the series onscreen.
I retreated to the trees and called the name of the particular faery I wanted. It was a rolling series of syllables, quite beautiful, really—especially since the faery went by the name of Toot-toot every time I'd encountered him before. I pushed my will out along with the name, just made it a call, something that would be subtle enough to make him wander this way of his own accord. Or at least, that was the theory.
What was his name? Please, do you think wizards just give information like that away? You don't know what I went through to get it.
About ten minutes later, Toot came flickering in over the water of Lake Michigan. At first I mistook him for a reflection of the moon on the side of the softly rolling waves of the lake. Toot was maybe six inches tall. He had silver dragonfly's wings sprouting from his back and the pale, beautiful, tiny humanoid form that echoed the splendor of the fae lords. A silver nimbus of ambient light surrounded him. His hair was a shaggy, silken little mane, like a bird of paradise's plumes, and was a pale magenta.
Toot loved bread and milk and honey—a common vice of the lesser fae. They aren't usually willing to take on a nest of bees to get to the honey, and there's been a real dearth of milk in the Nevernever since hi-tech dairy farms took over most of the industry. Needless to say, they don't grow their own wheat, harvest it, thresh it, and then mill it into flour to make bread, either.
Toot alighted on the ground with caution, scanning around the trees. He didn't see me. I saw him wipe at his mouth and walk in a slow circle around the miniature dining set, one hand rubbing greedily at his stomach. Once he took the bread and closed the circle, I'd be able to bargain information for his release. Toot was a lesser spirit in the area, sort of a dockworker of the Nevernever. If anyone had seen anything of Victor Sells, Toot would have, or would know someone who had.
Toot dithered for a while, fluttering back and forth around the meal, but slowly getting closer. Faeries and honey. Moths and flame. Toot had fallen for this several times before, and it wasn't in the nature of the fae to keep memories for very long, or to change their essential natures. All the same, I held my breath.

The faery finally hunkered down, picked up the bread, dipped it in the honey, then greedily gobbled it down. The circle closed with a little snap that occurred just at the edge of my hearing.
Its effect on Toot was immediate. He screamed a shrill little scream, like a trapped rabbit, and took off toward the lake in a buzzing flurry of wings. At the perimeter of the circle, he smacked into something as solid as a brick wall, and a little puff of silver motes exploded out from him in a cloud. Toot grunted and fell onto his little faery ass on the earth.
"I should have known!" he exclaimed, as I approached from the trees. His voice was high-pitched, but more like a little kid's than the exaggerated kind of faery voices I'd heard in cartoons. "Now I remember where I've seen those plates before! You ugly, sneaky, hamhanded, big-nosed, flat-footed mortal worm!"
"Hiya, Toot," I told him. "Do you remember our deal from last time, or do we need to go over it again?"
Toot glared defiantly up at me and stomped his foot on the ground. More silver faery dust puffed out from the impact. "Release me!" he demanded. "Or I will tell the Queen!"
"If I don't release you," I pointed out, "you can't tell the Queen. And you know just as well as I do what she would say about any dewdrop faery who was silly enough to get himself caught with a lure of bread and milk and honey."
Toot crossed his arms defiantly over his chest. "I warn you, mortal. Release me now, or you will feel the awful, terrible, irresistible might of the faery magic! I will rot your teeth from your head! Take your eyes from their sockets! Fill your mouth with dung and your ears with worms!"
"Hit me with your best shot," I told him. "After that, we can talk about what you need to do to get out of the circle."
I had called his bluff. I always did, but he probably wouldn't remember the details very well.
If you live a few hundred years, you tend to forget the little things. Toot sulked and kicked up a little spray of dirt with one tiny foot. "You could at least pretend to be afraid, Harry."
"Sorry, Toot. I don't have the time."
"Time, time," Toot complained. "Is that all you mortals can ever think about? Everyone's complaining about time! The whole city rushes left and right screaming about being late and honking horns! You people used to have it right, you know."
I bore the lecture with good nature. Toot could never keep his mind on the same subject long enough to be really trying, in any case.
"Why, I remember the folk who lived here before you pale, wheezy guys came in. And they never complained about ulcers or—" Toot's eyes wandered to the bread and milk and honey again, and glinted. He sauntered that way, then snatched the remaining bread, sopping up all the honey with it and eating it with greedy, birdlike motions.
"This is good stuff, Harry. None of that funny stuff in it that we get sometimes."
"Preservatives," I said.
"Whatever." Toot drank down the milk, too, in a long pull, then promptly fell down on his back, patting at his rounded tummy. "All right," he said. "Now, let me out."
"Not yet, Toot. I need something first."
Toot scowled up at me. "You wizards. Always needing something. I really could do the thing with the dung, you know." He stood up and folded his arms haughtily over his chest, looking up at me as though I weren't a dozen times taller than he. "Very well," he said, his tone lofty. "I have deigned to grant you a single request of some small nature, for the generous gift of your cuisine."
I worked to keep a straight face. "That's very kind of you."
Toot sniffed and somehow managed to look down his little pug nose at me. "It is my nature to be both benevolent and wise."
I nodded, as though this were a very great wisdom. "Uh-huh. Look, Toot. I need to know if you were around this place for the past few nights, or know someone who was. I'm looking for someone, and maybe he came here."
"And if I tell you," Toot said, "I take it you will disassemble this circle which has, by some odd coincidence no doubt, made its way around me?"
"It would be only reasonable," I said, all seriousness.
Toot seemed to consider it, as though he might be inclined not to cooperate, then nodded. "Very well. You will have the information you wish. Release me."
I narrowed my eyes. "Are you sure? Do you promise?"
Toot stamped his foot again, scattering more silver dust motes. "Harry! You're ruining the drama!"
I folded my arms. "I want to hear you promise."
Toot threw up his hands. "Fine, fine, fine! I promise, I promise, I promise! I'll dig up what you want to know!" He started to buzz about the circle in great agitation, wings lifting him easily into the air. "Let me out! Let me out!"
A promise thrice made is as close to absolute truth as you can get from a faery. I went quickly to the circle and scuffed over the line drawn in the dirt with my foot, willing the circle to part. It did, with a little hiss of released energy.
Toot streaked out over Lake Michigan's waters again, a miniature silver comet, and vanished in a twinkling, just like Santa Claus. Though I should say that Santa is a much bigger and more powerful faery than Toot, and I don't know his true name anyway. You'd never see me trying to nab Saint Nick in a magic circle, even if I did. I don't think anyone has stones that big.
I waited around, walking about to keep from falling asleep. If I did that, Toot would be perfectly within his rights as a faery to fulfill his promise by telling me the information while I was sleeping. And, given that I had just now captured and humiliated him, he'd probably do something to even the scales—two weeks from now he wouldn't even remember it, but if I let him have a free shot at me tonight, I might wake up with an ass's head, and I didn't think that would be good for business.
So I paced, and I waited. Toot usually took about half an hour to round up whatever it was I wanted to know.
Hell, we see much the same thing with every summoned demon in Storm Front and Fool Moon.
Faeries share some properties, but they aren't all psychologically the same. Toot and a malk have as much in common as a mouse does with a cat.

Still, I prefer your plan to the other options. We can always escalate from civility if we need to.

Might want to mess with the phrasing a bit; no harm for no violence could be loopholed, as unlikely as it is for this particular fey to have the leverage for it.
[X] uju32
 
Faeries share some properties, but they aren't all psychologically the same. Toot and a malk have as much in common as a mouse does with a cat.
You'd be surprised.
Look at the entire scene in Cold Days where they capture Lacuna, and Toot-Toot goes, and I quote:
None of us but the major general.
Toot dropped down from where he'd been crouched atop a bookcase, intercepting Hook's darting black form, and tackled the other little faerie to the floor in the middle of the living room. They landed with a thump on the carpeting, wings still blurring in fits and starts, and tumbled around the floor in irregular bursts and hops, sometimes rolling a few inches, sometimes bounding up and coming down six feet away.
Toot had planned for this fight. He'd tackled Hook into the carpet, where the hooks on his armor would get tangled and bind him, slowing him down. Furthermore, Toot's hands were wrapped in cloth until it looked like he was wearing mittens or boxing gloves, and he managed to seize Hook by the hooks on the back of his armor. He swung the other little faerie around in a circle and then with a high-pitched shout flung him into the wall.
Captain Hook slammed into the wall, putting gouges in the freshly painted drywall, then staggered back and fell to the ground. Toot bore down with a vengeance, drawing his little sword, and the armored figure held up a mailed fist. "Invocation!" he piped in a high, clear voice. "I am a prisoner! I invoke Winter Law!"
Toot's sword was already in midswing, but at those last two words he checked himself abruptly, pulling the weapon back. He hovered there over Hook with his feet an inch off the ground, gritting his teeth, but then he buzzed back from Hook and sheathed the sword.
"Uh," I said. "Toot? What just happened?"
Toot-toot landed on the kitchen counter next to me and stomped around in a circle, clearly furious. "You opened your big fat mouth!" he screamed. After a moment, he added, sullenly, "My lord."
I frowned at Toot and then at Hook. The enemy sprite just sat there on the floor, making no further effort to escape. "Okay," I said. "Explain that."
"You offered to take him prisoner," Toot said. "By Winter Law, if he accepts your offer he may not attempt escape or offer any further resistance to you for as long as you see to his needs. Now you can't kill him or beat him up or anything! And I was winning!"

I blinked. "Yeah, okay, fine. So let's make with the questions already."
"You can't!" Toot wailed. "You can't try to make him betray his previous covenants or terror-gate him or anything!"
I frowned. "Wait. He's a guest?"
"Yes!"
"By Winter Law?" I asked.
"Yes! Sort of."
This of course, before Toot Toot realized Lacuna was a beautiful girl pixie, at which point this happened:
Just then, Toot buzzed back into the apartment from somewhere. He zipped in frantic, dizzying circles, starting at the point he'd last seen Lacuna, until his spiral search pattern took him to the kitchen. Then he swooped down to Lacuna, landing neatly on the counter.
I peered at the two little faeries. Toot held out to Lacuna a wrapped watermelon Jolly Rancher, as if he were offering frankincense and myrrh to the Christ child. "Hi!" he said brightly. "I'm Major General Toot-toot!"
Lacuna looked up from her food and saw Toot's gift. Her eyes narrowed.
And then she sucker punched Toot-toot right in the face.
My little bodyguard flew back a couple of feet and landed on his ass. Both of his hands went up to his nose, and he blinked in startled bewilderment.
Toot had dropped the Jolly Rancher. Lacuna calmly kicked it into the disposal drain of the kitchen sink. Then she turned her back on Toot, ignoring him completely, and went back to eating her meal.
Toot's eyes were even wider as he stared at Lacuna.
"Wow!" he said.
Which has set the tone for their relationship.
:V

Fae are weird. Just saying.
Malk behavior would be a lot more acceptable if they were half to a quarter their actual weight, for starters.
Like their domestic cat cousins.
Might want to mess with the phrasing a bit; no harm for no violence could be loopholed, as unlikely as it is for this particular fey to have the leverage for it.
I spent an hour working on it, and that was about the best I could do. I trust the QM will go with the general intent.
Im not binding Lydia or Mouse, should this particular fae try to play wordgames.
 
If it can, that's a bug that's due for correction.

The point of Exalted is that if an Exalt prepares accordingly and digs their heels in, no force between heaven and earth can move them, only destroy them. Even the Great Curse can't make them do something utterly anathema to their nature, just exaggerate their nature until it flies out of control, and that was explicitly a One of a Kind, never to be repeated death curse from world builders.

Nemesis doesn't get to just puppet Molly or any Exalt that has a proper mental defense. It can try to trick them, it can try to kill them, it can try to hurt them, but it cannot subvert their Free Will no matter how hard it tries. An Exalt does what they will until stopped, for better or for worse.
Things may have changed in ExWoD, seeing as Exaltations are powered down to the point where Mages can now tamper with Exaltations. p248, "Gilgul and Other Acts of Hubris". There's heavy caveats about how it's very difficult, always vulgar magic, the Exaltation resists with Arete 10, the mage needs multiple spheres at 5, and so on, but it's theoretically possible for a mage to alter or even destroy an Exaltation.
 
Things may have changed in ExWoD, seeing as Exaltations are powered down to the point where Mages can now tamper with Exaltations. p248, "Gilgul and Other Acts of Hubris". There's heavy caveats about how it's very difficult, always vulgar magic, the Exaltation resists with Arete 10, the mage needs multiple spheres at 5, and so on, but it's theoretically possible for a mage to alter or even destroy an Exaltation.

"Hypothetically speaking, an omnipotent entity has a small chance of success if they're willing to pay a tremendous price for doing so" is not the same as "Nemesis can absolutely do it."

Arete 10 is functionally omnipotent, and that's what the Exaltation resists as, and when you combine that with "The mage needs multiple Spheres at 5".... Yeah.

Just because something is hypothetically possible under perfect conditions by a nearly omnipotent being who's willing to pay a tremendous price to even try to do it, doesn't mean it's a significant risk. Nemesis is dangerous because it's a sapper who got behind the walls and it's very subtle, not because it can manfight the White God and have a respectable chance of winning. Which is what it would take to damage or alter an Exaltation currently embodied in someone and doing its job properly.
 
Things may have changed in ExWoD, seeing as Exaltations are powered down to the point where Mages can now tamper with Exaltations. p248, "Gilgul and Other Acts of Hubris". There's heavy caveats about how it's very difficult, always vulgar magic, the Exaltation resists with Arete 10, the mage needs multiple spheres at 5, and so on, but it's theoretically possible for a mage to alter or even destroy an Exaltation.
Yeah, but those are WoD mages, and the notes on that talk about how it's intended to reflect that they're nascent reality warpers on a quest to ascend to hyper-divinity or whatever the end goal of the ascension war is. There isn't anything in the Dresden files even remotely like what a WoD mage is or can become.

They also can't pierce perfect defenses that way. Ripping out your soul is distinct from changing what you're thinking about inside of it.

On a more OOC note, it's also included as a special rule in mage: the ascension specific games. I don't see why it should be a general outside of that context.

A large part of that is just that I think it's a lame ruling though, so I won't even try to claim being unbiased.
 
[X] Ask why it had called you false when you had not spoken a single word yet
-[X]Etiquette Excellency. -1 Essence.
-[X]STUNT: You make an effort of will to draw on your understanding, and a crown of green fire flickers to life on your brow, eyes searching the darkness for the rest of the pack. The malk flinches visibly at the fire, and you alter your body posture in response, spreading your hands as words come to your mouth. "Be not afraid, winterfae. You shall come to no harm at my hands here as long as you offer no violence in return. Name yourself, and your pack, and explain why you come here unbidden to make accusations of falsehood to one who has not met you before."
 
And Shadow Spite Curse lights up all nemesis infected persons everywhere in the world. For a couple of seconds, yes, but still. For the cheap price of 8 XP we get to ruin Nemesis forever.
It would be a mighty blow, but Nemesis built its network from nothing, it can do so again given time.

This also is assuming that everything goes well. In Nemesis's position, I would use the Identification as an excuse for more coordination. I would claim that my netwrok are a group of unrelated individuals who are being targeted by an infernal with screams of outsiders to cover a bloody power grab. Molly can't be everywhere and a civil war between those fighting Nemesis and those it can convince to side against the new devil is an easy method of damage control.
 
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