Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.

Was the car particularly tricked out?

Mercedes CLS-AMG high performance four door fastback. Thats either the -55 AMG or the -63 AMG; essentially a tarted up E-class.
A hundred and thirty thousand dollars plus of luxury sports car, with either a 469hp or 507 hp V8 under the hood.
Only around 44,000 of this model were sold in the US between 2014 and 2010.

Its not a 2008 BMW E60/E61 M5(V10, 500 horsepower) or an 2008 Audi RS6(V10, 579 horsepower), which are arguably better sports cars of the period, but to step up seriously in sports cars performance in this era you're probably looking at dropping around twice its price on something like a Lamborghini or a Ferrari, which would probably be a two seater.

I like the idea of getting the ridder, but where do we keep it afterwards?
In our drive way? Duh. Or a longterm parking lot with security.
Just make sure you acquire it legallyish from the city. Its an expensive car, even used, so you can be sure a bunch of connected people who heard it being seized are probably keeping an eye on when it will go up for sale.
 
Can someone list out all the get money quick schemes that have come up in the thread? I know that there has been many of them. It seems like this will likely be the time to use them.
VEE someone 5 dots of background resources.

Boring. Practical.
Red court, formorians, the pathfinders ..
We sort of put annihilating Red Court on hold for a moment, but I don't think anyone would be particularly sad if we Crown-Scry for the Fomori-affiliated money.
 
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I like the idea of getting the ridder, but where do we keep it afterwards?
Obviously we make a Batcave. I mean, we have TTC. Why not put it to good use?
Can someone list out all the get money quick schemes that have come up in the thread? I know that there has been many of them. It seems like this will likely be the time to use them.

From memory:.
  • Craft up a bunch of stuff and sell it.
  • Crown lottery numbers and other valuable information.
Crown world map, ask for the largest (in monetary value) unclaimed treasure or precious metal vein. Terribly wasteful though.

Raiding fomori bases. Raiding Red Court operations.

Mercy in Servitude lord Raith / Lara Raith / some rich red court half vampire.

Stack CCC, TLF, WHWH, BSM and stunt, make the best possible winter wear / winter clothing line - the most fashionable and simply the best. Sell it to Mab / Maeve. Or patent it / start a hautr couture fashion house. We could stack close to 20 successes right now. I am fairly sure our dress clothes would both be very comfortable, warm and beautiful enough to give attribute bonuses.
 
Obviously we make a Batcave. I mean, we have TTC. Why not put it to good use?

Crown world map, ask for the largest (in monetary value) unclaimed treasure or precious metal vein. Terribly wasteful though.

Raiding fomori bases. Raiding Red Court operations.

Mercy in Servitude lord Raith / Lara Raith / some rich red court half vampire.

Stack CCC, TLF, WHWH, BSM and stunt, make the best possible winter wear / winter clothing line - the most fashionable and simply the best. Sell it to Mab / Maeve. Or patent it / start a hautr couture fashion house. We could stack close to 20 successes right now. I am fairly sure our dress clothes would both be very comfortable, warm and beautiful enough to give attribute bonuses.

Crafting something and especially selling it for how much it would be world would take more than the four days you have unless you want to hand them to Marcone or something.
 
Can someone list out all the get money quick schemes that have come up in the thread? I know that there has been many of them. It seems like this will likely be the time to use them.

From memory:.
  • Craft up a bunch of stuff and sell it.
  • Crown lottery numbers and other valuable information.
Artificial diamonds. Artificial sapphires. Artificial rubies. Jewel quality.
The first is just processing allotropic carbon, and the next two are different forms of aluminium oxide with various trace elements. Tool Constructs should do it, as long as we know or can find someone willing to buy them off us.

Might ask Dresden who his material science dealers are; he's been paid in gold and had to sell it, and he also got diamonds from Hades vault in Skin Game and sold those.
Yog has raised this before.
Find someone you do not like and hack their account to wire you money is another thing that just got easier now that you have minions who can hack.
Niemi is dead. He's precisely the sort of arsehole to have bank accounts in Panama or the Cayman Islands. You can empty some of them into charities and hide the movement of some in the shuffle. But the financials of someone who is likely to be the subject of a criminal investigation is probably wiser to stay away from.

Just make a bunch of jewel-quality stones and find sell them at a 50% discount.

The actual problem is figuring out our tax filings for 2007.
Because an 18 year old buying a hundred kay sports car is kinda interesting to tax authorities.
Of course, given that we intend to do the lottery thing in November, that might not be a problem.
 
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[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.
 
We have a circle mate w8th lawyers and likely accountants managing her funds. Ask her for help.
Fair point.
There's even good odds that if Arawn's contact is knowledgeable and connected enough to move and mask the financial assets of a supernatural for decades, he can also arrange the sale of any jewel quality stones we show up with. For a fee, of course.

We just have to craft the diamonds/sapphires/rubies.
 
[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.
 
Well order of operations
  1. Have our cyber devils poke around and see if they can find any opportunities to steal money from some group we dislike. It's always possible we might get lucky. Make of those group are old and not up to date on the technology thing.
    1. the pathfinders
      1. Likely easier then normal considering the money laundering and the disarray they are currently in.
    2. formorians
    3. Red court
  2. Well they work on that we craft off a bunch of things to sell.
    1. Electronics (Might as well make Dresden a computer at the same time)
    2. Gems
  3. Also check up on black rider and make sure it makes itself as unsellable as possible. Better if we can buy at a cut rate price.
By the time we do those we will likely have more information about what opportunities we have.
 
Electronics (Might as well make Dresden a computer at the same time)
We'd want an excellency before starting to make electronics for sale. We are "craft: mechanics" specked. This probably means stuff like custom pens, clocks (or wrist and pocket watches), various mechanical knicknacks, etc. We could also probably do custom knives.

For Dresden's computer we could either:
1) Get a stock computer HMPed before gifting it to Dresden (rolls excellency with difficulty adjusters to convince him to take it)
2) Teach Bob to possess it as an HMP analogue
3) Use black jade for magical insulation (might or might not work).
 
We'd want an excellency before starting to make electronics for sale. We are "craft: mechanics" specked. This probably means stuff like custom pens, clocks (or wrist and pocket watches), various mechanical knicknacks, etc. We could also probably do custom knives.

For Dresden's computer we could either:
1) Get a stock computer HMPed before gifting it to Dresden (rolls excellency with difficulty adjusters to convince him to take it)
2) Teach Bob to possess it as an HMP analogue
3) Use black jade for magical insulation (might or might not work).
Well for making money our best bet might be to find some junker car. You know the sort the owner is just willing to give away if you haul it away. Then repair it to pristine condition.
 
Electronics (Might as well make Dresden a computer at the same time)
Point of order:
Dresden doesnt have electricity in his house. He uses magic and candles for illumination, and an icebox for food preservation.
He takes cold showers in Chicago winter, and either coal or wood in his fireplace for heating.

No idea what he cooks with, or how he does laundry.
Computers are pretty low down on his quality of life issues.
Lots more important things to fix.

Figuring out how to sidestep techbane is a prerequisite for intervention.
Everything from electronics to getting him a new car(s).
 
[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.

Natural Linguist (2 pt. Merit) You're especially good at understanding how people communicate. Every purchase of the Language Merit (see above, and Mage 20, Appendix II) secures two languages for you, not just one. You also get three bonus dice when making rolls based upon clear communications, typically ones employing Art, Expression, Etiquette, Leadership, and other Traits that involve "speaking their language" to impress someone else.
Maybe we should get this, as it will net us extra dice for social skills.
Can someone list out all the get money quick schemes that have come up in the thread? I know that there has been many of them. It seems like this will likely be the time to use them.

From memory:.
  • Craft up a bunch of stuff and sell it.
  • Crown lottery numbers and other valuable information.
Crown lost treasure (unlikely as we'd have to deal with claimants)
Crown sites with oil or gold (though would need to have money to buy and mine it).
 
[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.


Probably should yoink the nice car before something happens to it in impound
 
[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.
 
Well for making money our best bet might be to find some junker car. You know the sort the owner is just willing to give away if you haul it away. Then repair it to pristine condition.
Cars are also probably technology. I think we are better off with art type objects. I really like the custom knives idea. It's plausible that Molly can do this, and high-end knives go for tens of thousands of dollars and more. We can probably make a knife in an hour, with absurd successes. The best ones we could keep, the worse, but still legendarily good ones, we could sell.
Figuring out how to sidestep techbane is a prerequisite for intervention.
Everything from electronics to getting him a new car(s).
1) Cars with GPS can be HMPed - that's considered enough computerization. So, for example, a boiler with a heat sensor and the possibility of controlling the rate of burning could be HMPed too. Same with everything else. Slap some sensors and a wifi module on it, then HMP it.
2) Black jade can be used to contain both gossamer and an exaltation. It might be usable to either insulate tech from techbane or to contain Harry's techbane emanations within him.
 
[X] A Rose's Tale: Follow up on Rose of Autumn, you are sure she will be happy to learn what became of the Pathfinders in Cleveland
[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer

I'm just not very interested in the car. Our first reaction when we saw it was that it was really conspicuous. And don't we already have a car? We can make a much better car.
The minion can be rehoused and will be perfectly fine. Getting the car is a pointless extravagance. I would much prefer interesting personal interactions. Personally I would prefer the "A Rose's Tale" but either is better then the car.
 
Cars are also probably technology. I think we are better off with art type objects. I really like the custom knives idea. It's plausible that Molly can do this, and high-end knives go for tens of thousands of dollars and more. We can probably make a knife in an hour, with absurd successes. The best ones we could keep, the worse, but still legendarily good ones, we could sell.

1) Cars with GPS can be HMPed - that's considered enough computerization. So, for example, a boiler with a heat sensor and the possibility of controlling the rate of burning could be HMPed too. Same with everything else. Slap some sensors and a wifi module on it, then HMP it.
2) Black jade can be used to contain both gossamer and an exaltation. It might be usable to either insulate tech from techbane or to contain Harry's techbane emanations within him.

Keep in mind that just because it is the same substance does not mean it is the same purity that contained an Exaltation. The Fomori 'just' needed to contain gossamer, and even that over a short distance. In fact that way they were doing it the containment would only last tens of minutes in transit hence why they needed to set up shop here, between the population of victims and the underwater Dragon Nest.
 
Keep in mind that just because it is the same substance does not mean it is the same purity that contained an Exaltation. The Fomori 'just' needed to contain gossamer, and even that over a short distance. In fact that way they were doing it the containment would only last tens of minutes in transit hence why they needed to set up shop here, between the population of victims and the underwater Dragon Nest.
What woud we need to roll to refine it? Occult? Alchemy? That 5 dot crafting charm? Also, can we use it ask the crown for "the location of (way to) the largest undiscovered and unclaimed black jade deposit in the world"?
 
What woud we need to roll to refine it? Occult? Alchemy? That 5 dot crafting charm? Also, can we use it ask the crown for "the location of (way to) the largest undiscovered and unclaimed black jade deposit in the world"?
  1. Alchemy, that is the material science of magic. You could also do it with wonder crafting.
  2. That is a valid question, though it's best to leave out 'the world' since this does not seem like the kind of thing that can be found in mundane reality
 
That is a valid question, though it's best to leave out 'the world' since this does not seem like the kind of thing that can be found in mundane reality
Don't tell me that in an exalted crossover Black Stone wouldn't be black jade. On the other hand, this is fair, I specified "undiscovered" - if I didn't we were liable to get the path to a certain Tibetan prison.

Also, no jade asteroids floating around as remnants of some old cosmic conflict?

In any case, a Nevernever expedition at some point is probably a must.
 
1) Cars with GPS can be HMPed - that's considered enough computerization. So, for example, a boiler with a heat sensor and the possibility of controlling the rate of burning could be HMPed too. Same with everything else. Slap some sensors and a wifi module on it, then HMP it.
2) Black jade can be used to contain both gossamer and an exaltation. It might be usable to either insulate tech from techbane or to contain Harry's techbane emanations within him.
1)Dresden is tentatively fine with cyberdevil equipment for other people. Even for Mouse.

That does not mean that he is fine with cyberdevil equipment for himself. He is a high ranking law enforcement/military commander for a magical nation that is at war, where communications security is at a premium, and they would have legitimate questions about possessed equipment that is always in listening mode.


2)Doesnt matter.
Its a rare enough material that its not really a repeatable protocol, and it would leave him reliant on us.
We want something that ideally in our absence he can still put up for himself, and teach wizard allies to use.


3)The thing is, we know its canonically possible to shield against techbane.
Fae and other supernatural magic users dont affect technology unless they want to; Mab doesnt, Maeve doesnt, Lea doesnt, Gard doesnt, the Archive doesnt.

And plenty of lesser human talents live with normal mortal tech without frying it.

Dresden knows at least one way to do it, even; he canonically had a suppression spell running during a TV interview on not!Jerry Springer at the start of Death Masks, which is around two years ago iirc.
Its just that it required a lot of concentration to hold it.

What we actually need is to pick up Summoning/Binding/Wards Path and work with Bob to invent a ward that protects mortal technology from techbane. Basically magical Faraday shielding.
We either apply it around his home(and in his car), or we build a magic thingy to hold the ward.

Write down the instructions and proliferate it among magic users.
 
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