Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[X] A Rose's Tale: Follow up on Rose of Autumn, you are sure she will be happy to learn what became of the Pathfinders in Cleveland
 
Is this Vampire Odin?

Also whats the crossovers exalted dresden and Chronicles right?

[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer
 
[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.

Leaving demon cars around being bored is a bad idea.
 
A car from the 80s and before is probably mechanics. After would probably be Technology. If we wanted to fix Harry's car we'd want Mechanics, if we want to fix the Black Rider we'd want Technology.
I see no reason to limit ourselves that way. Why even pick mechanics if you don't think it applies to vehicles? It's like the car companies have brainwashed people into thinking cars are impossible to repair. They really aren't.
 
Hm. A thought occurs. How far is DragonParadox willing to go writing Molly's weird (but canonical) thing for older guys? Because I was thinking about how Marcone is gonna try and handle Molly, and I'm worried that the uh, soft sell might work really well on her. Like, he'd be a pretty dangerous social threat unless we get the stats/charms to resist that.
 
Hm. A thought occurs. How far is DragonParadox willing to go writing Molly's weird (but canonical) thing for older guys? Because I was thinking about how Marcone is gonna try and handle Molly, and I'm worried that the uh, soft sell might work really well on her. Like, he'd be a pretty dangerous social threat unless we get the stats/charms to resist that.
Even if this situation occurs, I find it difficult for him to be a social threat, we may not have won but we also didn't lose in a social fight with Mab and that's even before our skill increases.

Not to mention that even if he succeeds against us we still have to vote to agree with something, example: Charity social defeated us in the beginning by rolling like God but we always had the option of "fuck this" and ignore her completely (consequences included), this with her being our mother and Molly loving her. Marcone, or anyone else, even Harry, is not going to be any different.
 
Even if this situation occurs, I find it difficult for him to be a social threat, we may not have won but we also didn't lose in a social fight with Mab and that's even before our skill increases.

Not to mention that even if he succeeds against us we still have to vote to agree with something, example: Charity social defeated us in the beginning by rolling like God but we always had the option of "fuck this" and ignore her completely (consequences included), this with her being our mother and Molly loving her. Marcone, or anyone else, even Harry, is not going to be any different.
That's basically how it'd go, but it's worth noting that ignoring social attacks requires spending temp willpower.

We probably won't end up in a situation where we're totally tapped and under social attack, but it's not impossible for something like that to happen if we screw up hard enough.

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Hm. A thought occurs. How far is DragonParadox willing to go writing Molly's weird (but canonical) thing for older guys? Because I was thinking about how Marcone is gonna try and handle Molly, and I'm worried that the uh, soft sell might work really well on her. Like, he'd be a pretty dangerous social threat unless we get the stats/charms to resist that.
1)Not really weird. A lot of teenage girls and young women crush on older guys.
Many just dont follow up on those that are age-inappropriate, whether out of good judgement, good support structures, or the subject of their affections declining.

2)Molly has Intimacies towards her father and Harry Dresden.
You can be relatively comfortable she isnt going to be making calf eyes at the local crime boss who Dresden....disapproves of.
Besides, he's not really her type.

3)Marcone isnt canonically characterized to be that kind of social threat.
Maybe because we largely see him from Dresden's PoV, but that doesnt really seem to be a factor.
He's smart and methodical, but his skillset doesnt seem to lean that way.
 
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[X] Rescue for the Rider: Get Black Rider loose one way or another. You are pretty sure you can make the money you need in an at least semi-legitimate way now, or the impound lot could snuffer from a unfortunate technical glitch at just the wrong, or the right time.
 
Would we need to go back to the tattoo parlor basement to be able to retrace our steps to Porter or do we have another route?

Edit: I realized crown directions may be an option here but am not sure what the focus would be.
 
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Hm. A thought occurs. How far is DragonParadox willing to go writing Molly's weird (but canonical) thing for older guys? Because I was thinking about how Marcone is gonna try and handle Molly, and I'm worried that the uh, soft sell might work really well on her. Like, he'd be a pretty dangerous social threat unless we get the stats/charms to resist that.

Er... I would not say it is terribly weird, I mean statistically a lot of teenagers have crushes who are older than them. Now the fact that her feelings towards Harry are a good bit more solid than 'casual crush', that has to do with who Harry is, what he has done and Molly's own perspective on the world

She may have a thought or two of aesthetic appreciation for Marcone the same way Harry remarked that Gard looked nice, but there are a whole lot of reasons why it would not go any further than that.
 
1)Dresden is tentatively fine with cyberdevil equipment for other people. Even for Mouse.

That does not mean that he is fine with cyberdevil equipment for himself. He is a high ranking law enforcement/military commander for a magical nation that is at war, where communications security is at a premium, and they would have legitimate questions about possessed equipment that is always in listening mode.
That's what excellencies are for. Excellencies aren't mind control. They are bringing our best arguments to the discussion. And we can order the cyberdevils not to report to us anymore and not to listen to us anymore. And they'll follow our order. We know this, because CCC abuse can work. So we could transfer their loyalty to Dresden. Verifying said transfer would take a bit of work, but is doable.
2)Doesnt matter.
Its a rare enough material that its not really a repeatable protocol, and it would leave him reliant on us.
We want something that ideally in our absence he can still put up for himself, and teach wizard allies to use.
Which is why we need to look for and secure industrial scale deposit(s). I am willing to bet White Council would like to have access to such materials.
What we actually need is to pick up Summoning/Binding/Wards Path and work with Bob to invent a ward that protects mortal technology from techbane. Basically magical Faraday shielding.
We either apply it around his home(and in his car), or we build a magic thingy to hold the ward.

Write down the instructions and proliferate it among magic users.
I am fairly sure it doesn't work like that, and fae not producing techbane is a sign of their inhumanity. Powerful human magic users generate techbance, and there's no weird trick around it. No mortal weird trick anyway. Otherwise people like McCoy would have developed it by now.
 
Fey and other non-humans do not produce tech-bane because their will is always aligned perfectly with their magic, unlike mortals who do not have a fixed nature to cast around. Dresden calls that 'a lack of free will', though it should be noted that White Court Vampires who certainly have free will also do not produce a constant tech bane, so maybe his understanding is not perfect.
 
I checked, it looks like we entered at the tattoo parlor basement, found Porter, got him to give us a ride to where Lydia was, then Gard got him to drive us to an exit near an elevator that emerged in one of Marcone's warehouses.

So we either need to retrace our steps from the tattoo parlor basement or get directions somehow from whatever point of entry we use.
 
Fey and other non-humans do not produce tech-bane because their will is always aligned perfectly with their magic, unlike mortals who do not have a fixed nature to cast around. Dresden calls that 'a lack of free will', though it should be noted that White Court Vampires who certainly have free will also do not produce a constant tech bane, so maybe his understanding is not perfect.
They have free will. But they don't have magic. Their hunger does, and they can coach it to use it on their behest. And the hunger likely doesn't have enough free will to cause techbane.
 
They have free will. But they don't have magic. Their hunger does, and they can coach it to use it on their behest. And the hunger likely doesn't have enough free will to cause techbane.

That assumes their hunger is an entirely separate being from the soul it is linked to, that it can act as an intermediary the same way a summoned demon can. How true that might be you guys will have to find out IC if you want to poke White Court vampires.
 
That's what excellencies are for. Excellencies aren't mind control. They are bringing our best arguments to the discussion. And we can order the cyberdevils not to report to us anymore and not to listen to us anymore. And they'll follow our order. We know this, because CCC abuse can work. So we could transfer their loyalty to Dresden. Verifying said transfer would take a bit of work, but is doable.
-As has been demonstrated, not all mortals are pinatas for social magic.

Both heroic mortals and wizards channelling Intimacies can rock up against supernatural social dice pools even without magic. Furthermore, your persuasive ability means nothing when the people who need convincing are not there in the first place, and are receiving second and thirdhand reports from field agents.

I dont see how you can honestly believe the White Council thats had hundreds of wartime losses due to information leaks is going to risk communication security on the word of an Infernal. Especially since there are both dupes and actual moles in the White Council looking for an excuse to frame up Dresden for something.


-We cannot by definition order the cyberdevils not to report to us.
Their loyalties are locked to Molly Carpenter and her Exaltation, and arent transferable; others giving them instructions is backed by our authority, not theirs.

We can countermand any orders we or anyone else gives them at will. We know it.

Even if we said otherwise, the only people who would believe that statement are allies and friends who know us intimately.
Noone else.
Its a nonverifiable claim, and we're not Fae who are bound to not speak lies.

It would be like Dresden telling the White Council that he picked up Lasciel's coin, but everything is fine, and he's in control of Lash's Shadow, honest.
Please dont kill me. (they would absolutely kill him)

Note how Dresden didnt get reinstated as Deputy Warden-Commander after coming back from the dead as Winter Knight?

By definition, they are industrial scale, and require industrial scale exploitation. Industrial scale mining and transport both.
Thats nationstate business.

Its here I also point out that we are barely a couple months old. There have been wizards and other supernaturals about for literally millenia. If industrial scale deposits of valuable magic material even exists, there's probably very good reasons wizards dont have stockpiles they either mined or traded for,

Even no expense spared operations by supernatural nationstates like happened in Cleveland only had limited quantities for storing magic unobtainium.

am fairly sure it doesn't work like that, and fae not producing techbane is a sign of their inhumanity. Powerful human magic users generate techbance, and there's no weird trick around it. No mortal weird trick anyway. Otherwise people like McCoy would have developed it by now.
1)Gard was/is human. The Archive is human.

Elaine Mallory, who is accounted by Dresden to be near his magical equal in strength and his superior in control, is human and has no apparent trouble lodging in hotels and normal homes without burning everything out. Mortimer Lindquist, who is, according to the Leanansidhe in Ghost Story, a Dresden-tier medium and ectomancer, lives in an apparently normal home.

2) Citation:
Larry Fowler pranced up to us and pumped my hand, then Mort's with equally exaggerated enthusiasm. "Welcome to the show," he said into a handheld microphone, then turned to face the nearest camera. "Our topic for today is 'Witchcraft and Wizardry-Phony or Fabulous?' With us in order to share their views are local medium and psychic counselor Mortimer Lindquist."
The crowd applauded politely.
"And beside him, Harry Dresden, Chicago's only professional wizard."
There was a round of snickering laughter to go with the applause this time. I couldn't say I was shocked. People don't believe in the supernatural these days. Supernatural things are scary. It's much more comfortable to rest secure in the knowledge that no one can reach out with magic and quietly kill you, that vampires exist only in movies, and that demons are mere psychological dysfunctions.
Completely inaccurate but much more comfortable.
Despite the relative levels of denial, my face heated up. I hate it when people laugh at me. An old, quiet hurt mixed in with my nervousness and I struggled to maintain the suppression spell.
Yeah, I said spell. See, I really am a wizard. I do magic. I've run into vampires and demons and a lot of things in between, and I've got the scars to show for it. The problem was that technology doesn't seem to enjoy coexisting with magic. When I'm around, computers crash, lightbulbs burn out, and car alarms start screaming in warbling, drunken voices for no good reason. I'd worked out a spell to suppress the magic I carried with me, at least temporarily, so that I might at least have a chance to keep from blowing out the studio lights and cameras, or setting off the fire alarms.
It was delicate stuff by its very nature, and extremely difficult for me to hold in place. So far so good, but I saw the nearest cameraman wince and jerk his headset away from his ear. Whining feedback sounded tinnily from the headset.
I closed my eyes and reined in my discomfort and embarrassment, focusing on the spell. The feedback died away.
Canonically, Dresden has had a suppression spell as of the events of Death Masks, two or three years ago IC.
Its delicate, difficult for him to hold, and requires constant attention, but it does exist, and works well enough that he can hold it in a TV studio without frying everything.

At least until Ortega startled him.

Where there's one option, there's a good chance there's others.
Especially since the techbane is a relatively new phenomenon that hasnt been well explored; magic mutates every couple hundred years apparently, and where its jamming tech now, it used to do things like make candles burn funny or spoil milk.
 
Hm. A thought occurs. How far is DragonParadox willing to go writing Molly's weird (but canonical) thing for older guys? Because I was thinking about how Marcone is gonna try and handle Molly, and I'm worried that the uh, soft sell might work really well on her. Like, he'd be a pretty dangerous social threat unless we get the stats/charms to resist that.
This is ridiculous harry crush is the result of hero worship. Also Marcone isn't like that anyways.

I should also probably note tech bane isn't what wizards always had before pasteurization failing it was warts and weirdly colored fires. Even if it's always been tech or innovation bane in quest.
 
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[X] A Rose's Tale: Follow up on Rose of Autumn, you are sure she will be happy to learn what became of the Pathfinders in Cleveland
[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer

I really, really just don't care about the car.
 
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