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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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@DragonParadox, every time she gets mentioned in the story, you mistakenly spell Gard's name as Grad instead. I thought it was just a typo at first, but it's cropped up enough that I think you're probably just misremembering her name.
 
Goldfish said:
@DragonParadox, every time she gets mentioned in the story, you mistakenly spell Gard's name as Grad instead. I thought it was just a typo at first, but it's cropped up enough that I think you're probably just misremembering her name.
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Here I am googleing like a idiot because I can't figure out who grad is… thx. So we can like still take her right? Even if we can't, fighting her is totally what a exalted would do!
 
DragonParadox said:
Katrina, you do not need to see the next message on screen to suddenly freeze mid picture, but you appreciate is nonetheless. Priority, Priority, partial match, relevant to present search: Katrina Sigfriddotir.
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Just for the record:
DragonParadox said:
The answer unfolds like a parchment before you, or maybe like a tapestry unfurling, each name a thread dipped in blood:

Dr. Hans Ulrich Speer, Bone Digger, Stone Breaker
Johann of Cleaves, Wizard, Pianist, Lover of Flames
Katrina Sigfriddotir, the Forsaken Sister
Lucian of Cephaloedium, the Thrice Betrayer, Namshiel's Bearer
Marcus Scribonius Libo Drusus, the Hollow Seer
Theodosius Cristos, the Broken Bridge​
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Nazi-Alarm

We have a Thule-Valkyrie here, time to warm up the hellfire!
 
I don't know how the rules on kill-it-keep-it are in Illinois, but I do hope that we can take her car after taking her head.

[X] Offer to take this someplace more private, maybe she thinks she can take you in a fight, you would wager she is probably wrong (Manipulation+Empathy)
 
So...we're going to fight, right?

[X] "She's a real beauty, has that look about her that she could do the Kessel Run in less than 20 parsecs."
-[X] "You shouldn't worry too much about your car, Forsaken, not when your continued existence depends entirely on old man Matthews' continued good health."
 
[X] Try to bluff that you had just been passing through and are interested in cars and... the interesting people who drive them (Manipulation+Subterfuge)
 
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We don't have to act like a bored dawn caste, and can always default to sword if being subtle fails.

She's also probably pretty dangerous, and more importantly dangerous is ways that we aren't yet aware of. Even if she can't win a sword fight she might still be able to pull out some weird bullshit.

Besides, if we go somewhere quiet we can't use clippy to subtly order the devil in her car to repeatedly run her over. :V
 
Goldfish said:
So...we're going to fight, right?

[X] "She's a real beauty, has that look about her that she could do the Kessel Run in less than 20 parsecs."
-[X] "You shouldn't worry too much about your car, Forsaken, not when your continued existence depends entirely on old man Matthews' continued good health."
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I don't think threats are appropriate here.

Just ask her out to a fight to the death.
 
BronzeTongue said:
1) To be clear, I'm not suggesting doing something like this over the course of an afternoon. Money is really useful, and a secure income stream is something we should invest time and effort into.

This is also why it's best to target boring and obscure systems in ways that don't easily correspond to existing problems with corruption. People only notice what they look for.
Though I do think this is too out of character for Molly having given it a second thought.

I don't expect them to roll over, but only so much can be done with this sort of thing And if we actually take the time to do it right we have good odds of avoiding detection.

2) yeah, but we're going to be getting into situations where that doesn't apply. Self defense usually presupposes that you can't otherwise escape and have no reasonable response available save what you used.

Hunting red vampires for money and/or favors from the white council, or busting into a maxi safe house and stabbing berserker werewolves to death aren't self defense.

Also, vampires do leave behind bodies that can get us in trouble. Butters got sent to a funny farm because he insisted that the charred remains of some reds were not human rather than simply warped by heat.

3) I don't know what to tell you but that you're wrong here. Wealthy people hide money all the time. Some of it is even legal. Most of it requires bank accounts in places like Panama, but it's possible and practical.

4) You're expecting more forethought and competence than I am out of individual actors below the organizational level.

5) This is a ridiculous argument. Everyone has those things and so you can get lost in the crowd. That's part of what's so dangerous about knowing just a little bit about the supernatural; it can make you stand out at interesting.

Dinner that comes with millions of dollars is more attractive than dinner that doesn't.

The particular scheme I posted isn't IC, but operating a system is still a better idea than getting huge chunk of change right off the bat that makes us a target, which we can only use in the most basic of senses.
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1)Its literally impossible to do that in three or four months, and I dont see why we should suffer the opportunity costs of trying.

For some perspective, I just got done watching part of The Big Short, about the 2006 financial crisis. Cornwall Capital(Brownfield Capital in the film) was a pretty successful small hedge fund. Two guys. It took them three or four years to make 30 million dollars with an initial seed of about 110k, and they were pretty successful for smalltime traders.

The types of payoffs we need for what we need going forward are eycatching anyway.
What they made in four years we'll need in three months.

2)Defense of others also applies in addition to self-defense.
The legality by US law, and the legal code of most countries, is not really in dispute.

I just went back to check Death Masks, and it isnt clear about if the Reds leave bodies and under what conditions.
Mordite disintegrates bodies, but the Archive et al left the other Red vamp bodies there after the festivities at the stadium duel without worrying about disposal suggesting that they decompose.

But Ariana left a body in Changes that I remember.
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3)Wealthy people dont hide money in the US financial system. At least not directly; they put them in external tax havens who try to obscure that legally. And when we're potentially dealing with the national security apparatus, the opposition is a lot more seriousface than just dealing with FBI Criminal Division or the IRS.

4)Perhaps. But I dont think its unrealistic.
You dont get to the point where you have access to a significant number of the levers of a supernatural Player without exhibiting competence. Else someone will eat you. Possibly literally, in the vampire Courts.Its a dog eat dog world out there.

5) 13 million US households are worth more than 1 million dollars.
More than 560k US households filed tax returns with a yearly income of more than 1 million in 2016. More than 1.4 million filed tax returns of more than 488k in the same year.

There's a ton of rich people out there to parasitize if you had supernatural predators being opportunistic instead of actually owning chunks of the economy and criminal underworld.

I mean, remember that Molly is not exactly going to have much of a secret identity here.
The riptide of her magical presence and the impression it has on the world makes that clear. Nobody on the supernatural side with eyes is going to look at her and say "Let's hustle her for lunch money".

Its opportunistic mortals that we have to worry about there.
Yog said:
Modern can be implied from "five times faster than normal". Normal meaning without the use of the charm (more strongly, without the use of any charms but an excellency, I would posit). Meaning using what tools are available outside the use of the charm. Thus, no replicators. Though there is a good question of "if we build a magitech one-of-a-kind replicator, using excellency, charms, etc, would we then be able to replicate it using TTC?".
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Not really.
Not when the Wicked City themes are for advanced technology beyond anything possible IRL, and especially when one of the optimization options for our inner Hell is for better than modern technology.

This is a gameplay determination.
 
She has good taste in cars if nothing else. Also good taste in jumping immediately to life or death combat with strangers. The nazi angle really kills it sadly.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Rolls
You have no sensing charms active so you have to roll alertness here to sense magic indirectly. Unfortunately it's a botch so you do not get the +1 success from the Willpower
You do get the +1 on this one
And you roll high enough to recognize that she is the same sort of being as Grad
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1)We tripped a magic alarm on the first roll with the botch. I was worried about that. Lets see if we can talk our way out of it; we did promise Charity we wouldnt throw ourselves into danger.
If she isnt murdering or coercing Mathews we dont have to intervene.

2)Successful roll on possessing the car means that we get all the data.Excellent.

3)So a renegade Valkyrie, and a member of the Thule Society's governing board.
Which puts her on both Odin's and the White Council's shitlist.
I bet we could get mad points from Gard by telling her we know where to find one of her renegade sisters.
 
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uju32 said:
If she isnt murdering or coercing Mathews we dont have to intervene.
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I think we pretty much want / have to, though. She is a renegade evil nazi valkyrie. We should be commanding Clippy to contact Gard with the information, and engaging her in deadly combat, after maybe using the crown to learn how she fights.
 
[X] Offer to take this someplace more private, maybe she thinks she can take you in a fight, you would wager she is probably wrong (Manipulation+Empathy)
-[x] intimidate use excellency
—[x] Stunt 'Nice runes you have their be a shame to waste such artwork.' 'Tell you what come work for me and one of your ex sisters won't be taking you to see the old man.' Activate Melee excellency and draw your sword striking an epic pose.
 
What do you expect to get from her with a fight?

With the FBI watching us we really shouldn't place her in our trunk.
 
uju32 said:
Update!

1)We tripped a magic alarm on the first roll with the botch. I was worried about that. Lets see if we can talk our way out of it; we did promise Charity we wouldnt throw ourselves into danger.
If she isnt murdering or coercing Mathews we dont have to intervene.
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Are you sure she isn't? Are you even certain Matthews is still alive? If it got out he talked to Dresden...
 
When we unavoidably fight:
1) Use Crown on her to learn "what to expect from her in a fight" or "how she fights"
2) Use her true name to at least distract her mid combat. Even if it's not from her own mouth, it is still her true name, and as an immortal, that should affect her
zxzx24 said:
Perhaps we should check up on Matthew's. Just a touch.
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He's most likely either dead or bleeding out after being tortured throughout the night.
 
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