Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

I dont think the QM is looking to be quite that granular, judging by the last set of fights.
Or maybe that will come with time.
Dunno.
The last time we didnt specify we'd attack AND parry for example got us shot in the van.

We definitely have to be, based on past experience.

Treshold succs exist, then. I am happy. No need to mega split pools.
 
We can either be superfast, or learn to fire magic lasers, or make a gun.
With the benefit that the gun wont stand out the way that a magic laser will, if you're trying to stay a little covert, and is a relatively cheap dip.

Guns are an issue in Chicago. IDK what year it is in universe off the top of my head, but if it's before 2010, then even getting a gun that isn't an antique would be illegal.

Plus, our protagonist is under aged. (21 is the legal age here. plus you need two different permits to carry.)

On the other hand, running around chopping shit up with a sword isn't legal either- there are actual restrictions on blade length iirc, in terms of what you can carry in public. Plus the whole "vigilante" thing.

Really, the police already have things they could aggro us over if they really felt like it. If we can safely conceal the gun when it's not in use, it probably won't be too big of an issue.
 
Guns are an issue in Chicago. IDK what year it is in universe off the top of my head, but if it's before 2010, then even getting a gun that isn't an antique would be illegal.
Plus, our protagonist is under aged. (21 is the legal age here. plus you need two different permits to carry.)

On the other hand, running around chopping shit up with a sword isn't legal either- there are actual restrictions on blade length iirc, in terms of what you can carry in public. Plus the whole "vigilante" thing.

Really, the police already have things they could aggro us over if they really felt like it. If we can safely conceal the gun when it's not in use, it probably won't be too big of an issue.
Airguns are legal for possession above the age of 13.
Hence why I only began to talk about it when it when I confirmed we could make a smart airgun whose performance can vary.
Since we have to worry about SI as a factor, something we wont necessarily have to clash about helps.

And according to Google, longarms(ARs, shotguns) are legal at 18.
Its handguns and concealed carry permits that need to wait until 21.
At least under current rules anyway.

Our demon sword will vanish at will.
No physical evidence it exists.
 
On the other hand, running around chopping shit up with a sword isn't legal either- there are actual restrictions on blade length iirc, in terms of what you can carry in public. Plus the whole "vigilante" thing.
Our sword only existswhen we want it to.

That makes it a lot harder for the police to get us over that issue.
 
On the other hand, running around chopping shit up with a sword isn't legal either- there are actual restrictions on blade length iirc, in terms of what you can carry in public.
Knife blade limits.
Not sword blade limits. Just like switchblades are illegal.

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Chicago Municipal Code

8-24-020 Carrying dangerous weapons.
(a) No person shall sell, offer for sale, keep, possess, loan or give to any person any knife, the blade of which is released by a spring mechanism, including knives known as "switch-blades", any blackjack, slingshot, sandclub, sandbag, metal knuckles or bludgeon. No person shall sell, offer for sale, loan or give to any person 18 years of age or under any type or kind of knife, any blade of which is two inches in length or longer.
(c) No person shall carry or possess any knife, the blade of which is released by a spring mechanism, including knives known as "switch-blades", any blackjack, slingshot, sandclub, sandbag, metal knuckles or bludgeon. No person 18 years of age or under shall carry or possess any knife, the blade of which is two inches in length or longer.
(d) No person shall carry or possess with intent to use same unlawfully against another a dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto or other dangerous or deadly weapon.
(f) No person shall carry concealed on or about his person a or dagger, dirk, stiletto, bowie knife, commando knife, any blade of which is released by a spring mechanism, including knives known as "switch- blades" or any other type or kind of knife, any blade of which is more than two and one-half inches in length, ordinary razor or other dangerous weapon except that no person 18 years of age or under shall carry concealed on or about his person, any knife, the blade of which is two inches in length or longer. Provided, however, that this provision shall not apply to the following officers while engaged in the discharge of their official duties: sheriffs, peace officers, and corrections officers; nor to the following employees or agents while engaged in the discharge of the duties of their employment: conductors, baggagemen, messengers, drivers, watchmen, special agents and policemen employed by railroads or express companies; nor to persons lawfully summoned by an officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace, while so engaged in assisting such officer.
(g) Any person violating the provisions of subsections (a), (c), (d) or (f) of this section shall be fined $200.00 for each offense, or shall be punished by imprisonment for a period not to exceed six months, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
(h) Any weapons used in violation of this section shall be forfeited to the city
 
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And according to Google, longarms(ARs, shotguns) are legal at 18.
Its handguns and concealed carry permits that need to wait until 21.
At least under current rules anyway.

Chicago had a law making it illegal to trade or own guns that weren't already registered with the police- that is to say, only guns registered before the law was put into effect were legal. It was rescinded in 2010.

That's why the year matters.

And anyway- sword vanishes or no- if we get caught with it in hand, we can technically be arrested.
 
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DP has already confirmed that we can craft our own firearms using the Tools charm. If we want a handgun, we can just make one without serial numbers or other identifying marks.

It's illegal either way, but at least this one wouldn't be able to be tracked back to us or any other buyer or seller.
 
Chicago had a law making it illegal to trade or own guns that weren't already registered with the police- that is to say, only guns registered before the law was put into effect were legal. It was rescinded in 2010.
That's why the year matters.

And anyway- sword vanishes or no- if we get caught with it in hand, we can technically be arrested.
The year is 2006 btw.
We can be technically arrested anyway for bullshit; Ive heard stories about the CPD IRL, and while Molly is a blue-eyed blonde haired white girl, she already has a record, which exponentially increases risk.

But swords are apparently legal in Chicago; the thrust of the law seems to have been to criminalize cheap concealed blades in the hands of gang members, not big expensive swords that generally belong to people of money and social status for display.
So are machetes, which are a work tool. So are airguns, which are a popular toy for kids and adults.

So yeah, go off queen :) :rofl2:
 
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The year is 2006 btw.
We can be technically arrested anyway for bullshit; Ive heard stories about the CPD IRL, and while Molly is a blue-eyed blonde haired white girl, she already has a record, which exponentially increases risk.

But swords are apparently legal in Chicago; the thrust of the law seems to have been to criminalize cheap concealed blades in the hands of gang members, not big expensive swords that generally belong to people of money and social status for display.
So are machetes, which are a work tool. So are airguns, which are a popular toy for kids and adults.

So yeah, go off queen :) :rofl2:

That's actually kind of nuts. Most state have laws dictating both how long, and how short, a carried blade can be. I should probably check what the state of Illinois has to say about it but, TBH, I just don't have the time right now.
 
That's actually kind of nuts. Most state have laws dictating both how long, and how short, a carried blade can be. I should probably check what the state of Illinois has to say about it but, TBH, I just don't have the time right now.
Illnois is apparently very knife friendly, as long as you are not on public property.

WHICH TYPES OF KNIVES ARE LEGAL IN ILLINOIS?​

TYPE OF KNIFE

LEGAL (*WITH RESTRICTIONS)

ILLEGAL

POCKET KNIFE / FOLDING KNIFE​

X​

BUTTERFLY KNIVES​

X*​

SWITCH BLADE​

X​

BOWIE KNIVES​

X*​

MACHETE​

X*​

SWORDS​

X*​

DIRKS / DAGGERS / STILETTOS​

X*​

BALLISTIC KNIVES​

X​

MISLEADING KNIVES​

X​

HIDDEN KNIVES​

X​


hobanco.com

Knife Enthusiasts Guide to Illinois Knife Laws

Illinois is one of the states which references the intentions of the knife wielder in ascertaining whether or not it is legal for them to be in possession...
chicagocode.org

Chicago Decoded - Illinois Forms and Laws for Non-Lawyers

Discover the Chicago laws and get copies of the Illinois forms and templates in any format you like on the Chicago Decoded website.
 
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Yes, we're talking pistols.
People are recorded to have done triple digit yard shots with a 1911 .45; the videos are up there on Youtube. When you're rolling Dex 4 + Laser Sight 1 + Demon 2 + Stunt 2, you are very close to what the theoretical max dice pool for an unassisted human could be.
Ive considerd the weapons charm, but it doesnt fit our current theme atm.
Also, it costs 12 XP for a 3 dot charm.
I cant justify it yet as an expenditure.
oookay? so why is lightning bolt gun worse then bullet gun here?
Also, there is 2 dot hellish wind charm, you don't like it either? well, we could reskin it easily into Lanka charm, where we fire off beams of green sun of lanka instead of cutting wind.
Bullets are mundane. Dead bodies with bullets in them are a workaday event for homicide investigators, assuming there are any bodies. Corpses who have weird energy beam damage or exotic poisons or (god forbid)radiation are Interesting. They draw investigators. CDC sends investigative teams to see if there is a risk. Doctors write articles about them and submit to NEJM.
I don't have a concrete source on how it's treated IRL in US. But in DF all the supernatural damage gets buried, carted off to special investigations and never solved. That's where Murphy works.
 
Chicago had a law making it illegal to trade or own guns that weren't already registered with the police- that is to say, only guns registered before the law was put into effect were legal. It was rescinded in 2010.
All this can be side-stepped by making laser / pulsed energy projectile weaponry, instead of straight firearms.
 
Sandstrike Blast would have an advantage over conventional firearms. Or several actually:
1. No issue with the law, they can't prove you can shoot deadly sandstorms from your hands.
2. Good range compared to pistols.
3. Good damage compared to pistols.
4. Can be used as a reflexive action to avoid multi-action, so we can shoot it and still charge and melee-attack another foe.
5. If it is important we hit then we can use it as an AoE-attack and don't have to roll to hit.
 
And I'm saying that that is wrongheaded thinking: just because she wasn't initially placed as an asset to use against us doesn't mean she can't be forced into being an asset used against us.

Because again, if she's a changeling half the problem is the other Fae
oooookay? anyways for white court I just realized some word of jim said true love other than sexual works against the raiths and extended family of that side. They include true love of platonic kinds they have to aside form being reciprocal also be one of equals so the love between a parent and child don't work even though it counts as true love. Platonic true love between friends or siblings does work though also objects of true love like wedding rings though fairly sure its only objects of true love with true love attached to them like the ring between two married partner not the idea of wedding rings.
 
oookay? so why is lightning bolt gun worse then bullet gun here?
Also, there is 2 dot hellish wind charm, you don't like it either? well, we could reskin it easily into Lanka charm, where we fire off beams of green sun of lanka instead of cutting wind.
Because there's no such thing as a ranged lightning bolt gun, which means that we'd be edging into Wonder territory.
Because electric discharges play unpredictably with all the metal in cities.
Because Chicago is on the Great Lakes, and gets significant amounts of rain, and water + lightning is a bad mix.

I have looked at Sandstrike Blast.
It looks nice, but a little more indiscriminate than we might prefer to be.
I don't have a concrete source on how it's treated IRL in US. But in DF all the supernatural damage gets buried, carted off to special investigations and never solved. That's where Murphy works
Not all. Not reliably. And we dont know who is doing it.
Butters ended up in a psych ward because he came across evidence of nonhuman remains on his autopsy table and refused to let it go. But "they" let that stuff get to him in the first place.

We will be strong enough to be able to shrug off any reasonable amount of attention
But we arent yet.
Sandstrike Blast would have an advantage over conventional firearms. Or several actually:
1. No issue with the law, they can't prove you can shoot deadly sandstorms from your hands.
2. Good range compared to pistols.
3. Good damage compared to pistols.
4. Can be used as a reflexive action to avoid multi-action, so we can shoot it and still charge and melee-attack another foe.
5. If it is important we hit then we can use it as an AoE-attack and don't have to roll to hit.
1)It also does leave evidence that someone can shoot deadly sandstorms from their hands in the middle of a city. And the distinctive data trail allows trackers to follow basically your activity over years. There is safety in the anonymity of the herd that uses ballistic weapons.
2)True, at least for mundane pistols. Customwork is probably different.
3)True
4)Not sure why this is supposed to be special
5)Also does friendly fire, including to self.
 
4)Not sure why this is supposed to be special
Regular attacks are regular actions, meaning multi-action rules apply.

Reflexive actions are "free" actions that can be taken in addition to others.
Multiple actions mean less dice and higher difficulty for each action.
So basically shooting a Sandblast (in the non-AoE variant) is something we can do in addition to other actions without making those harder.

5)Also does friendly fire, including to self.
Yes, but with the choice given between single-target or AoE it's pretty good.

Besides, raising Athletics is a generally good thing that improves other actions besides throwing weapons and this charm.
Raising Firearms is only good for shooting.
 
while anonymity is all nice and well its also annoying and often not needed. Those who we don't really want to know everything about us will learn things eventually and you know for the mundane discovering murder via sand well that seems a them problem and lets see them get us charged with that! I fully expect us to become well known supernaturally rather quickly maybe not anything approaching the truth of what we are known none the less though.
 
Not a lot of votes so I'll leave this for tomorrow
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 10, 2022 at 2:53 PM, finished with 164 posts and 11 votes.
 
[X] Lydia's background, see if you can get her to talk about her family more
-[X] Lead into the conversation by asking what attracted her to our dorky baby brother.


If this were WoD I would be betting on her being retainer to a vampire, or part of a full family of retainers/Ghouls.
Being used to cold skin, being isolated from normality (because your family is obsessed with a Vamp due to blood-bond) and thinking nothing of weirdness are all pretty typical for that setting.

But this isn't WoD and I doubt Red or White keep the same kind of retainers. Blacks might keep some highly-functional Renfields if they can, but those are too rare.
 
Regular attacks are regular actions, meaning multi-action rules apply.

Reflexive actions are "free" actions that can be taken in addition to others.
Multiple actions mean less dice and higher difficulty for each action.
So basically shooting a Sandblast (in the non-AoE variant) is something we can do in addition to other actions without making those harder.


Yes, but with the choice given between single-target or AoE it's pretty good.

Besides, raising Athletics is a generally good thing that improves other actions besides throwing weapons and this charm.
Raising Firearms is only good for shooting.
1)I see your point, but you are mistaken.
You spend 1 Essence reflexively to activate the power, but you still have to take regular actions to aim and use it it.

2)Gonna need basic Firearms anyway because clones from Splintered Gale are/will be a thing.
In the meantime, weapon bonuse will be enough.

[X] Lydia's background, see if you can get her to talk about her family more
-[X] Lead into the conversation by asking what attracted her to our dorky baby brother.


If this were WoD I would be betting on her being retainer to a vampire, or part of a full family of retainers/Ghouls.
Being used to cold skin, being isolated from normality (because your family is obsessed with a Vamp due to blood-bond) and thinking nothing of weirdness are all pretty typical for that setting.

But this isn't WoD and I doubt Red or White keep the same kind of retainers. Blacks might keep some highly-functional Renfields if they can, but those are too rare.
Reds do in Latin America.
Whites dont; the Raith family seemed to recruit teens and adults.
Blacks break the minds of their servitors. I dont even think its possible for them.
 
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