- Location
- Germany
Oh, I thought you meant the actual skill Politics, since that is on the character-sheet too.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
- Crossover Fantasy
Yes you can, though it will not be easy.
[X] You know what? Fine, but dad gets to veto which subjects I am allowed to teach you.
-[X] What you teach doesn't need to be something relating to combat. "Utility" knowledge is something you could teach relatively safely without putting temptation of going out to fight in front of them.
-[X] What you teach doesn't need to be something relating to combat. "Utility" knowledge is something you could teach relatively safely without putting temptation of going out to fight in front of them.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Teaching Matthew is a bad idea. Not only because of his age and our parental baggage (i.e. Charity), but because actual teaching of this sort is a huge time sink and we have better things to do than waste our time trying to make a decent minion out of our little brother.
[X] Because I'm not ready for the weight of being a teacher. And you're thirteen. When you're eighteen and if you still want to; we'll go talk to mom and dad.
[X] Because I'm not ready for the weight of being a teacher. And you're thirteen. When you're eighteen and if you still want to; we'll go talk to mom and dad.
Time is less of a concern than one might imagine with the right charm
Chirality Prohibition Index (•••)
The Infernal may lead a group of mortals or bakemono
in a regimen of training, worship, and indoctrination,
quickly forming them into a shape of her
desiring and creating the nucleus of a cult.
System: During each day of training a group of
mortals or bakemono, spend 1 Essence per acolyte.
At the end of seven days of training, all students gain
30 experience points to spend raising their Physical
Attributes, Manipulation, and Alertness, Brawl, Intimidation,
Larceny, Melee, or Occult Abilities. No
Ability can be raised higher than that of their Infernal
instructor. This Charm can be used on the same acolytes
repeatedly, but bestows only 20 experience points
on subsequent training regimens. Any unspent experience
is lost.
Completing a training regimen under this Charm
makes the acolytes into creatures of darkness, if they
were not already. Additionally, each course of training
alters an acolyte's personality in the following fashion:
• After one course of training, he will grow to violently
despise one concept specified by the Infernal.
• After two courses of training, he will only speak
a selection of languages approved by the Infernal, and
will learn the primary language among this approved
list if he does not already speak it.
• After three courses of training, he will only wear a specific
uniform or style of clothing endorsed by the Infernal.
• After four courses of training, he will shun and
scrupulously avoid certain actions or modes of thought
proscribed by the Infernal.
• After five courses of training, he will adopt one obligation
he must regularly discharge, as defined by the Infernal.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
[X] Tell him to get dads permission, then we'll talk.
-[X] What you teach doesn't need to be something relating to combat. "Utility" knowledge is something you could teach relatively safely without putting temptation of going out to fight in front of them.
[X] You know what? Fine, but dad gets to veto which subjects I am allowed to teach you.
I see no issue there. We don't need to teach jack shit in the way of combat in order to give someone a niche that makes them feel, and actually be, special. If you can't punch through walls, so fucking what, you can do one other thing to the limits of human ability and perhaps a couple steps beyond.
If we want to teach somebody how to make shit or diplomance, great. They get to be really fucking successful later in life. Everybody should be happy. Combat can be put off a few years though even then its probably less important for a human being than anything else they could be doing. Being a beatmachine is great but being a tech-polymath corporate overlord with actual ethics changes the world.
As for the other matter? I mean... in terms of cults, even if we stick right to the side of the Church, as we should, cults of personality are a thing. We may be lukewarm in term of religious leaning, though we very much are considering God a fairly close friend in this and will continue to do so, but a figure with a philosophy and a mission will tend to drag people in their wake. And we very much have a mission in life. I could see that mission spreading.
-[X] What you teach doesn't need to be something relating to combat. "Utility" knowledge is something you could teach relatively safely without putting temptation of going out to fight in front of them.
[X] You know what? Fine, but dad gets to veto which subjects I am allowed to teach you.
I see no issue there. We don't need to teach jack shit in the way of combat in order to give someone a niche that makes them feel, and actually be, special. If you can't punch through walls, so fucking what, you can do one other thing to the limits of human ability and perhaps a couple steps beyond.
If we want to teach somebody how to make shit or diplomance, great. They get to be really fucking successful later in life. Everybody should be happy. Combat can be put off a few years though even then its probably less important for a human being than anything else they could be doing. Being a beatmachine is great but being a tech-polymath corporate overlord with actual ethics changes the world.
As for the other matter? I mean... in terms of cults, even if we stick right to the side of the Church, as we should, cults of personality are a thing. We may be lukewarm in term of religious leaning, though we very much are considering God a fairly close friend in this and will continue to do so, but a figure with a philosophy and a mission will tend to drag people in their wake. And we very much have a mission in life. I could see that mission spreading.
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-Im surprised none of the kids have heard of Mab. If nothing else, Shakespeare talks about her in Romeo and Juliet.
Has the American educational system struck again?
-Leech is wicked smart for an 11 year old.
-Usum is hilariously incapable of reading the room. Or is deliberately trolling, Im not sure which.
Nah, Michael knows better than to forbid his kids....stuff. He might place preconditions and shit, but a flat no is unlikely.
Molly v Charity was an educational experience.
Going to note that Daniel Carpenter for example was a member of the Chicago Alliance in canon, and a skilled knife fighter, which is frankly mad. Later joins the military, goes to Afghanistan, returns, but has reenlisted by the time of Battlegrounds, which is around his 24th/25th year of life. It gives you an idea of his mettle.
This was while Molly was hoboing it up as the Ragged Lady.
Michael's beloved, but his opinions dont really stop his kids, any of his kids, from moving in dangerous circles.
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[X] Maybe you could do something for him eventually
REASON
Hyocrisy is part of the human condition, but I dont think that the girl currently butting heads with Charity about being wrapped in cotton wool would treat her siblings the same way.
She is likely to stretch things out, hedge with preconditions, but a flat no is unlikely.
If nothing else, she can just pass on knowledge she feels is safe.
Because she does remember what ignorance almost cost her.
And her siblings just lived through the fetch invasion. They know that magic and the supernatural exist, and are dangerous.
- Location
- Earth
I think this part is a bit of a deal breaker for Molly's Dad.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/They
[X] You know what? Fine, but dad gets to veto which subjects I am allowed to teach you
Fair, it would not be a flat no, it would be 'no until you are older' which from where Matthew is standing might as well be a flat no.
- Location
- Germany
Daniel is 16. By the time he gets started with the Chicago Alliance he's propably adult.
Matthew is 13.
[X] Because I'm not ready for the weight of being a teacher. And you're thirteen. When you're eighteen and if you still want to; we'll go talk to mom and dad.
Right now we can't really teach anything, and we have significant time and exp requirements just to get Molly set up and functional.
Even if that wasn't the case our training charms come with major drawbacks that will cause significant family tension at best.
Get him training with the monk or something if we have to do something; it doesn't matter if it takes him ages to get anywhere, since making him a combat minion isn't worth the trouble for us in the first place.
Right now we can't really teach anything, and we have significant time and exp requirements just to get Molly set up and functional.
Even if that wasn't the case our training charms come with major drawbacks that will cause significant family tension at best.
Get him training with the monk or something if we have to do something; it doesn't matter if it takes him ages to get anywhere, since making him a combat minion isn't worth the trouble for us in the first place.
- She is a reasonably obscure character from a moderately well known play. Wile some of them may have heard the name that does not mean they would remember or make the connection
- She also has Wits 1 and low willpower which translates into a lot of bully punching. On the bright side brawl 1, knows how to throw a punch
- Usum: Would I be anything more than helpful Serene Majesty in Darkness?
- Location
- Germany
Good INT, some basic combat-ability and very bad decision making?
Sounds like a great minion.
- Location
- florida
[X] Tell him to get dads permission, then we'll talk.
-[X] What you teach doesn't need to be something relating to combat. "Utility" knowledge is something you could teach relatively safely without putting temptation of going out to fight in front of them.
[X] You know what? Fine, but dad gets to veto which subjects I am allowed to teach you.
-[X] What you teach doesn't need to be something relating to combat. "Utility" knowledge is something you could teach relatively safely without putting temptation of going out to fight in front of them.
[X] You know what? Fine, but dad gets to veto which subjects I am allowed to teach you.
For minerals Jadeite or pure jade is better overall, as it goes for over a million a carat. Which is nothing weight wise. Buy some random plot of oh it just so happens to have these masterwork jewelry from some forgotten time.
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Because I'm not ready for the weight of being a teacher. And you're eleven. When you're eighteen and if you still want to; we'll go talk to mom and dad.
Note that Molly doesnt yet know what being a creature of darkness entails. We dont either, not in this cosmology.
And Michael is a lot more tolerant than it would first seem.
Dude works with Thomas, remember?
Fair.
I think he'd be careful to avoid seeming like a no, because he did live with Charity's perceived restrictiveness making Molly act out even more. Good enough parent not to make the same mistake twice.
Besides, fetches have entered his home.
A certain amount of knowledge or training might help with giving the kids a sense of reestablishing control over their lives.
And Molly was 13/14 when she first started acting out.
Dude has lived through this.
Basic pattern recognition suggests he'd try to head things off at the pass.
Fair.
Wits 1 for a baseball player? Doubt it; Wits 2 minimum. Maybe even Wits 3.
Handling a ball hurled at your face requires fairly quick reflexes
Low willpower I'll grant you, even though I find it hilarious that she has higher Brawl than Molly.
Yup Usum is definitely trolling.
That, or deliberately getting the measure of the Exalt in whose head he's currently riding.
After all, we've only been together a week.
- Location
- Germany
Molly was dressing goth at that age.
She waited a bit longer before secretly learning magic and getting herself into serious danger.
- Location
- Norway
"Creatures of Darkness" in Exalted is a very much non-conceptual term, it means being on the Unconquered Sun's naughty list, a concrete list kept somewhere in the Celestial Bureaucracy. There are some default category entries, but sufficiently convincing prayer-appeals to the Unconquered Sun can get a human added to the list, or get a ghost removed from it.
I have no idea how it works in this crossover, but I would not assume the Unconquered Sun's opinion is a dealbreaker for Michael.
- Location
- Germany
There's a list what counts as CoD in the crossover book, but no explanation who made the rules.
WeylandSmith
Loose Cultivator
- Location
- [Global State]
[X] Because I'm not ready for the weight of being a teacher. And you're eleven. When you're eighteen and if you still want to; we'll go talk to mom and dad.