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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)

Yes, just yes. This will mean that it works on PLR as well which would be fantastic. Focusing its themes on resilience and revitalization seems like it would work really well with protecting our work, but also it would be a very nice addition help to Zhengui's repertoire. Walls and vines that creak but don't break, clouds of ash that never seem to leave. I'm drooling at the potential here!
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)
 
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Hmmm...

My feeling here is that UGM seems more meaningfully connected to the narrative as presented here? And ofc has had more previous build-up.

"Rather than motion and advancement, perhaps simple implacability was the path. "

It looks like it's doing stuff related to our SCS insight, which is also ofc tied into our heart demon. This suggests some pretty interesting character stuff maybe? I'm pretty curious about how that could make UGM more relevant and fitting, and how it might shape LQ's thoughts on her cultivation here.

The WHR stuff... ok, I'm not opposed to any of it, and actually I'm supportive of those ideas! But the practical "make it so it doesn't only apply to music" change is something we've been pointing out since forever, and is something we'd do ourselves without this anyway imo. The "focus on resilience and revitalisation" is also something I'm down for, but it doesn't seem like it's had as much build up and work in the actual narrative?
 
But the gardening scenes with Zhengui were very enjoyable, love to see them longer and Qi more hands into setting up garden though.
 
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yrsillar said:
"Gui thinks about the stuff we saw in the many cold places," Gui chirped, though at his size even that was a deep rumble. "Gui thinks it is not bad for needley trees to sleep in the winter and the cold. This is not stagnation. It is like the tough trees that are scorched on the outside, but live on the inside. Growing new is good, but so is being very tough! Gui appreciates the needley trees more now!"
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So...he discovered the flammability of pine resin yet? Coz their fallen needles burns a treat.
 
UGM as a fixed point "stay away" art ruins UGM. Full stop. Half of the issue in fighting with Zhengui is that Ling Qi either is moving around too much to properly work with him since enemies just avoid him and the battle moves away from him, or Ling Qi instead sacrifices using her mobility to stay with Zhengui. New UGM keeping people away from and enhancing fort Zhengui, is either already the problem, or again is encouraging Ling Qi to sacrifice her potential mobility to stay near a fixed point, which given how as Wind Thief develops added to our flight ability makes us one of the zoomiest greens to ever zoom is like, a crime.

UGM has just started getting potent enough for Ling Qi to bring out Hammer and Anvil tactics, being able to use her high mobility and UGM's built in cheap repeatability to push them into Zhengui. Like...honestly, the modification would be more appealing if it gave the ability to pull enemies to a fixed point.
 
I really like the idea of the modded WHR, because that is what Ling Qi has already done. She previously destroyed her family connections, but through the course of her cultivation has rekindled that hearth and is making it stronger. As long as the family isn't dead, it can bloom again. It really seems to me that this modded WHR can really connect to the overarching family story that Ling Qi is doing.
 
yrsillar said:
"I, Zhen am pleased to work Sister's melodies into reality," his other half agreed, curling around her.

Ling Qi rested her hand on his head, and looked up at the night sky, even if that was true, was it good enough?

No, perhaps she was thinking too hard about this. Already many would call her willful, stubborn, implacable. That maybe, was the thing she most shared with her little brother, and could be the vessel by which she could complement him. The Winter Hearth Resounding Art wasn't perfect for that purpose, but it held the potential to be more.

"Gui likes it most when Sister is near, but knows that Sister cannot always stay close," Gui said suddenly. "So it makes Gui happy to make things with Sister."

Ling Qi hummed to herself, maybe that in itself was was something too look to. The Hearth's arts protected her music, but not others constructs. Could she do something with that? Infuse her little brother's constructs, his walls and his spikes with a little bit of her song?
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Ok, just seen the new stuff on WHR added to the end.

Yeah, I like this. Simple, straightforward, fits our interest in support and collaboration well addressing both Zhengui and Hearth's themes. Potentially ties into heart demon. The art change itself is very safe imo and basically has no potential problems.

I like all this I think.
 
@yrsillar : Can Hanyi learn Covetous Wraith's Yearning as either a successor art or complement to Lonely Winter Maiden?

There are many similarlies between the two arts.
 
[] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)

Adding pushback could be pretty awesome combo'd with Zhengui's thorny wall, but this has a chance of comboing with all our other stuff as well. Only Hanyi really doesn't have any constructs in our group, and there is a decent chance Hanyi will develop in that direction as well.
 
TimEd said:
[] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)

Adding pushback could be pretty awesome combo'd with Zhengui's thorny wall, but this has a chance of comboing with all our other stuff as well. Only Hanyi really doesn't have any constructs in our group, and there is a decent chance Hanyi will develop in that direction as well.
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Seconded. WHR's modification sounds like it has a lot more tactical Zhengui synergy when we use it to reinforce Zhengui's wood fortress and ash zones too. UGM is chancier, it depends more on the scenario whether it'd help or hinder.
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)
 
[X] Modify Unstoppable Glacier's March (Invert the arts themes of advancement and motion. Making it an art which drives targets away from a fixed location, and enhances fortifications)
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)

This is perfect. Forget the mechanics of enhancing qi constructs in general, though that's great, but making WHR focus on resilience and revitalization gives it a clear thematic tie to Zhengui and makes it more of what we wanted back during that terrible art vote a year ago. Slam dunk imo.
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)
 
...We're revoting, huh. Ugh. Oh well.

*Reads update*

Sadly, I think the offered change to Glacier's March ruins it, so I am reluctantly voting for this.

[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)
 
[X] Modify Unstoppable Glacier's March (Invert the arts themes of advancement and motion. Making it an art which drives targets away from a fixed location, and enhances fortifications)
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)
 
[X] Modify Winter Hearth Resounding (Modify the art away from enhancing just music, to enhancing qi constructs in general and narrow its focus to resilience and revitalization.)

Honestly I just don't like UGM much.
 
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