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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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[X] Plan Basket, plus prepare the defenses

As long as we are not adding comissions I think we are good, still would like to finish 1 pass on Master Rune of Valaya before finishing that commission. After this- my research priorities are alchemy (since understanding that locks 1 odd place mat and may be needed for later steps of rune metal), rune metal pt 5 (because working towards T5 rune metal is big as once we unlock that we can make some very very good items) and rune metal pt 3b (because figuring out how to let smiths makes gromil chain is going to be a big boost to the Dawi)
 
Right, let me propose something for planning consideration.

If we do not add two actions into Valayan armor this turn, we will have to spend almost all of turns 41 and 42 on the Gazal commission, only a single action to spare in each.
 
[X] Plan Basket, plus prepare the defenses
yannoshka said:
I was not calling you out on calling it hyperbole.
I was calling you out on what I perceived as an unwarranted case of a dismissive attitude towards your fellow poster.
If I am misunderstanding you, I do apologize.
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I fail to see how calling something hyperbole is a dismissive attitude we've hardly called you out for having a dismissive attitude for saying anything anyone else has said has been hyperbole (for me that's because I just think that's your opinion which you're entitled to). What it does mean in my opinion is that we have a disagreement and we can disagree without being dismissive of each other and I earnestly believe what Tempest said was hyperbole and so far the tracking I've done of our actions seems to agree with this we seem to hover at a 1.5:1-2:1 rate of commission actions to research actions thus making his statement in my opinion hyperbole.
 
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[X] Plan Preemptive Appeasement

I don't like leaving stuff undone, especially when there's a deadline for us to give it to someone else. I know we can theoretically push off finishing the Valayan commission to next turn, but we didn't expect to have to secure those tunnels, and we don't know what else will pop up for us to do.
 
[X] Prepare for the Grave
-[X] Render Aid:
-- [X] Elderly Expertise: 1 Retainer Action
-[X] [Simple] Defence. In. The. Depths: 1 Action
-- [X] Expedite: x4
-- [X] Retainer Expertise: 1 Retainer Action
-[X] Wardstones: 3 Actions
-[X] ORDER: A T4 Pegasus Heart, or Equivalent
-- [X] Kingly Expedite: x2
 
Hey, @soulcake .

We currently have dozens of master runesmiths hanging out in our workshop to learn the Rune of Forged Limb directly from Snorri himself. Gromril Chain/Chainforger is a waaaaay bigger deal than forged limb. Even if Snorri releases the Chainforger blueprints at runkalbrogg, it seems many runesmiths will come North to learn from the source anyway. Therefore, a few questions.

1. How many runesmiths does Snorri expect to see coming to learn the chainforger direct from Snorri? Hundreds? Multiple hundreds?
2. Will further expansion (for example into the basement caverns) be necessary to accommodate the expected influx? Are we prepared to accommodate runelords for significant periods?
3. If expansion is necessary, should we plan for it to cost actions?
3. While teaching 3 dozen runesmiths has not cost actions before, if the number drastically increases, should we anticipate an action cost?
 
Jreengus said:
I actually had the same idea a while back, but I used hearts instead of blood, the Sky King gained his powers from eating hearts so the hope is it would bring the magical effect closer to his powers by using hearts, I also tried to use construction materials from the same being the original hearts came from. My idea was to use it as a sidearm for Snorri but I wouldn't be completely opposed to making it as a commission, the only issue is I'm not sure how a Brana themed weapon would be taken outside of the far north.
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Ayyy, great minds think alike I guess. :V I love the way you made use of the non-reagent mats honestly, I'd be very down for following that design. When I was suggesting the axe before I was convinced that Snorri's well set for destructive potential and the design would be better saved for a commission. As far as how it would be taken outside of the Far North, I think it would be taken as "a Living Ancestor Runelord made a weapon of legend for the King and the Hold beardling, it'd be downright shameful to even think about nit-picking over ornamental design choices." Also, the Brana are our allies and making a statement that speaks to that, especially making such a statement specifically outside of the Far North, is worthwhile to me in its own right and definitely not cause for balking at the idea IMO.

[X] Plan Basket, plus prepare the defenses
 
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We should just finish our valaya commision first before we do anything else, in a turn or two we get 1 action back from the karak founding anyway and we can finish off the defense option with that spare action.
 
Silver719 said:
Right, let me propose something for planning consideration.

If we do not add two actions into Valayan armor this turn, we will have to spend almost all of turns 41 and 42 on the Gazal commission, only a single action to spare in each.
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t 41 1 action on the Runelord meeting, T42 we can use one action to finish off defense in depth. So we have stuff for those single action slots to do. (not to mention Places of the Odd progress on other turns we have single slots)
 
Kliden said:
Hey, @soulcake .

We currently have dozens of master runesmiths hanging out in our workshop to learn the Rune of Forged Limb directly from Snorri himself. Gromril Chain/Chainforger is a waaaaay bigger deal than forged limb. Even if Snorri releases the Chainforger blueprints at runkalbrogg, it seems many runesmiths will come North to learn from the source anyway. Therefore, a few questions.

1. How many runesmiths does Snorri expect to see coming to learn the chainforger direct from Snorri? Hundreds? Multiple hundreds?
2. Will further expansion (for example into the basement caverns) be necessary to accommodate the expected influx? Are we prepared to accommodate runelords for significant periods?
3. If expansion is necessary, should we plan for it to cost actions?
4. While teaching 3 dozen runesmiths has not cost actions before, if the number drastically increases, should we anticipate an action cost?
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1. More, he cannot truthfully say.
2 -4. No because Snorri won't teach more Dawi than he can ensure are properly trained. There is no growing higher than this number for the forseeable future because any more and Snorri can no longer guarantee they're learning the Rune right/hes giving them the right amount of attention.
 
Sir LagsAlot said:
[X] Plan Basket, plus prepare the defenses

I fail to see how calling something hyperbole is a dismissive attitude we've hardly called you out for having a dismissive attitude for saying anything anyone else has said has been hyperbole (for me that's because I just think that's your opinion which you're entitled to). It means we have a disagreement we can disagree without being dismissive and I earnestly believe what Tempest said was hyperbole and so far the tracking I've done of our actions seems to agree with this we seem to hover at a 1.5:1-2:1 rate of commission actions to research actions thus making his statement in my opinion hyperbole.
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Again.
I am not taking umbrage at calling it a hyperbole.
Call it whatever yo want (so long as we all try to remain respectful of each other).
I was calling you out for the whole "No need for..."
That to me sounds an awful lot like you are calling @TempestK opinion irrelevant because you consider it a hyperbole.
While using hyperbole yourself.
If you cannot see the inherent hypocrisy therein, I don't know what to say.
Now, I am specifically not calling you a hypocrite or anything of the nature.
I am just pointing how it looks to me, and ME specifically.
And, While I am pretty weird myself, I doubt I am unique in perceiving it in such a matter.

And, with that said, I am done with this topic whatever anyone else has to say.
I've said my bit and that's it from me. Any more, and I'd consider myself to be engaged in derailment since at this point I am not discussing the topic of the quest itself.
A fine morning/day/evening/night to all of you fine folks, and all the best.
 
soulcake said:
1. More, he cannot truthfully say.
2 -4. No because Snorri won't teach more Dawi than he can ensure are properly trained. There is no growing higher than this number for the forseeable future because any more and Snorri can no longer guarantee they're learning the Rune right/hes giving them the right amount of attention.
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Might be wise then to convince some of the Runelords at the conclave to teach the Runes and the contraption in their home Holds then, otherwise the spread will take a while.
 
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