Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I was looking through some of the Arts in the old Forge of Destiny thread and was unable to find where Ling Qi advanced to Sable Crescent Step 3. She reached SCS 2 in Y43W12 with further advancement being locked due to a needed spine meridian. She opened up the required spine meridian and also started working on SCS 4 in Y43W25, and attained SCS 4 in Y43W27. She seems to have skipped SCS 3. Can someone explain to me what happened?
There is an art tracker.
Art Upgrades And Histories
I've put together a registrar of the different levels of the arts we've had so far. Below, you see the different arts we have subdivided by level, with each level highlighting new additions in bold.
It has SCS step three being learned week 19. Looking at the thread mark I don't see any rolls, so we likely got close enough on a prior role that omake points pushed it over the edge. Or the roll wasn't recorded for some reason. But we learned step three during week 19.
 
There is an art tracker.

It has SCS step three being learned week 19. Looking at the thread mark I don't see any rolls, so we likely got close enough on a prior role that omake points pushed it over the edge. Or the roll wasn't recorded for some reason. But we learned step three during week 19.

Thanks, that's very useful. Nevertheless it's still odd because while we know there were 0 successes for SCS 3 in week 12 because it was locked due to the need for an additional spine meridian, looking through all of the thread posts between week 13 and week 24 turns up no rolls for SCS 3 in any of those posts. I also didn't see any rolls for the spine meridian prerequisite until week 25 when cultivation on SCS 4 began. I looked up one of the sentences specific to SCS 3's power list in google and only turned up posts by @PrimalShadow or references to them, nothing by @yrsillar. This is rather strange. Did @yrsillar inadvertently zap his description of SCS 3 while editing his old posts?
 
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Thanks, that's very useful. Nevertheless it's still odd because while we know there were 0 successes for SCS 3 in week 12 because it was locked due to the need for an additional spine meridian, looking through all of the thread posts between week 13 and week 24 turns up no rolls for SCS 3 in any of those posts. I also didn't see any rolls for the spine meridian prerequisite until week 25 when cultivation on SCS 4 began. I looked up one of the sentences specific to SCS 3's power list in google and only turned up posts by @PrimalShadow or references to them, nothing by @yrsillar. This is rather strange. Did @yrsillar inadvertently zap his description of SCS 3 while editing his old posts?
I don't know what to tell you. There was likely a mistake made in showing the rolls and art description. Mistakes like those happen. This error in record keeping is nearing four years old though. Whatever information was supposed to be displayed is almost certainly gone, lost in the seas of time.
 
I don't know what to tell you. There was likely a mistake made in showing the rolls and art description. Mistakes like those happen. This error in record keeping is nearing four years old though. Whatever information was supposed to be displayed is almost certainly gone, lost in the seas of time.

Yep, there's a lot of bookkeeping involved in Ling Qi's advancement, I can easily see how an error might creep in every so often. And given that it was almost 4 years ago as you point out, it's not worth harping on further. Ok, I'm going to drop it and move on unless someone else cares to shed some light on what happened way back when.
 
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So, the RR release brought something up:
Chang He spoke the words even as she mulled them over in her thoughts. "The fallen star stirs. Destruction burns below," the old man said slowly, sounding troubled.

"It is afraid," Ling Qi confirmed what she could sense him thinking, and wasn't that a worrying thought. "Ask it where the 'star' is."

Chang He repeated his question, but the reply was only marginally helpful. "South, always south and deep below," Chang He grimaced as the rumbling ceased.

Further questioning proved mostly useless, and they received only fragmented answers and vague references. There was 'Poison rising from the deepest depths', and the 'the winter winds would awaken the crumbling titan'.
The fallen star is obviously the thing that hatched out of it,
Might want to watch for signs of the other two, particularly the last one as it's likely involving the sleeping mountain we're currently on.
 
So, the RR release brought something up:

The fallen star is obviously the thing that hatched out of it,
Might want to watch for signs of the other two, particularly the last one as it's likely involving the sleeping mountain we're currently on.
Poison rising from the deepest depths probably refers to the shishigui. Especially the one that killed Zhao.
 
Poison rising from the deepest depths probably refers to the shishigui. Especially the one that killed Zhao.
Nah, its probably the starstone. The Shishigui have been living underground for at least as long as the Sect has been there, why would something be changing now? The starstone is an foreign material, alien and by all accounts harmful to this world in many ways. The sky, sun and moon all filter starlight that reaches the earth so its harmless but the higher in the atmosphere u go, the more toxic the starlight becomes. Naturally, if a piece of a star falls to earth, the environment wouldn't be protected from its effects. If I recall correctly, when Ling Qi was just looking at a giant chunk of starstone for the first time, her vision began to blur and her eyes began to water and ache.
 
Nah, its probably the starstone. The Shishigui have been living underground for at least as long as the Sect has been there, why would something be changing now?
It could be the star stone, but as for why things are changing now? They were literally planning an attack on the sect at that point and built something potent enough to kill Zhao, looking at their cultivation style that would create a lot of poison. They haven't ever done anything as significant since the sect has been around.
 
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It could be the star stone, but as for why things are changing now? They were literally planning an attack on the sect at that point and built something potent enough to kill Zhao, looking at their cultivation style that would create a lot of poison. They haven't ever done anything as significant since the sect has been around.
The starstone was buried deep for a long time. The Ylithkai dug it up for bargaining purposes only recently
 
It could be the star stone, but as for why things are changing now? They were literally planning an attack on the sect at that point and built something potent enough to kill Zhao, looking at their cultivation style that would create a lot of poison. They haven't ever done anything as significant since the sect has been around.
They powered up one of their people to kill Zhao. After Zhao was exhausted from fighting a cloud tribe guy at his level, one of the Shishigui powered themselves up and did a suicide attack. Their most powerful techniques involves self sacrifice. It was revealed during the infiltration mission down there that the higher the Shishigui go in cultivation level the less time they have to live. Which is why they considered a suicide attack to be worth it, is my guess.
Okay getting off topic lol, my bad. I just wanted to make a correction, there was no device they built or poison they made that killed Zhao. It was their method of self sacrifice and attacking when he was already exhausted in battle that dealt the killing blow to Zhao. It was stated in Elder Yongrui's interlude.
 
Okay getting off topic lol, my bad. I just wanted to make a correction, there was no device they built or poison they made that killed Zhao. It was their method of self sacrifice and attacking when he was already exhausted in battle that dealt the killing blow to Zhao. It was stated in Elder Yongrui's interlude.
By built I meant powered up a shishigui to the point where they would have a chance to kill Zhao. No device and they didn't poison him. A regular green or even cyan Shishigui Sacrifice tech wouldn't be near powerful enough to kill even a weakened Zhao. They needed at least an indigo (probably violet) shishigui that they knew wouldn't be coming back. As shishigui cultivate impurities (which is poison to things on the surface) they need a ton of that to create a shishigui capable of taking down a weakened Zhao.
 
Given that going through the forest of wild spirits lead to an unexpected Hui base and massive amount of loot, I'd be willing to bet that trying to talk to the Underworld dragon would have lead to learning about the "Destruction burns below." While "Poison rising from the deepest depths" could be the shishigui, burning destruction does not seem to fall in their wheelhouse.
 
I wonder if the Y'lith'kai polity has been rendered unstable due to something even deeper waking up, depleting the quality of their land and making the status quo untenable.
 
The shishigui power-up method seems to involve internalizing highly toxic corruption. That may be the poison in question, as they're literally carrying it up into the lands above inside themselves.
 
turn 11: Arc 6-6
For a long moment, Ling Qi's gaze lingered on the crone. Something in the cold iron visage resonated with her, the chilling note of silence and endings which she had cultivated in the form of the Frozen Soul Serenade and the Starless Night's Reflection arts. More than that, there was something lonely there, in the hunched shoulders and shadowed, wrinkle lined face. Ling Qi felt Hanyi squeeze her hand then.

She glanced down at Hanyi and the spirit looked back curiously. "Why'd we stop Big Sister?"

"It's nothing," Ling Qi said quietly. It seemed disrespectful to speak loudly in this place. "Let's go."

She wasn't sure what she had expected. Something more like the sun shrine perhaps? But this place was empty, save for her, and the silence in it hung heavy, like a thick cloak. Overhead, the ceiling twinkled with a thousand thousand points of light, like a clear night sky, and frost dusted the bare iron floor. The walls behind the statue were bare, but Ling Qi could sense twisting patterns of temperature in the black iron. She thought they might have been images, but her sense for that sort of thing wasn't clear enough to make them out. At her side, Zhengui's each step made a faint sizzling sound as the frost under his feet melted, and twin risers of steam arose from his mouths.

The eyes of the statues seemed to fall upon her, twinkling and aware. It made the back of her neck itch, the feeling of being watched. As she approached the statue of the young woman, she glanced down at the floor and the pattern on tile that lay under the carpet of frost. At the center was a circle of polished blue and white, surrounded by larger and larger concentric rings. On the next ring out was a sphere of tarnished silver, and the next ring had a circle of gold on the opposite side, smaller circles of varying colors marked the rings that radiated out. It took a second for Ling Qi to realize what it was. The half remembered images from a book she had read while figuring out the vagaries of stellar and lunar qi came to mind. It was a depiction of the heavenly spheres.

The people of the Polar Gates had pretty advanced astronomy it seemed.

"Gui does not like this place very much," her little brother muttered, stretching his neck from his shell to look back up at the statue of the older woman's snarling face.

"Gui should not whine," Zhen hissed, he faced backward, eyeing the crone statue suspiciously.

His voice shook her from her thoughts, and Ling Qi looked up at the statue looming overhead. The statue of the young woman loomed overhead, cold and metallic, yet nearly alive in its shape and silhouette. The folds of her iron gown seemed ready to rustle and move with the wind, and her chest seemed ready to begin rising and falling. The young woman's expression was resolute, and the line of her back and the set of her shoulders screamed of confidence and poise, the orb held to her chest gleamed with contained power. Blue light sparked in eyes of cold iron, and Ling Qi's breath hitched.
Pride.

Pride and rule. Guidance and responsibility.

She felt as if she knelt once more before the throne of Xiangmen, pierced by the sight of something wholly beyond her.

She felt small. What pride did she have? What right to guide anyone. She was just a foolish girl who struggled to balance her own time and family. Even now, she wasn't strong, she was always trailing behind others.

She was still so often afraid.

Imperious blue eyes stared back at her. They judged her.

Ling Qi caught her breath then, staring once more at a visage of iron. She found herself subtly straightening her own shoulders as she looked on, feeling a stirring of pride in her chest. It was a spark of heat at first, and then a growing warmth. Though the final leg had been dangerous and painful, had they not made it hear? Had they not crossed through most of the Wall in a matter of weeks?

Had she not grown as far as she had in less than two years, shooting up to tread just behind the prodigies of great houses. Had she not done so without abandoning her family and responsibilities and becoming a hermit cultivator?

Things were far from over, and their actions, her actions might still change the path of nations, if only in a small way. She couldn't claim full credit for that, but there was no point in shrinking from the accomplishment.

Yet she was still just a child. Lacking in clarity and decisiveness, but that would come in time.

The moment passed, and worry and self recriminations for mistakes returned to nibble at her thoughts. The injection of pride still burned in her spine, but she had to wonder what it had meant. Why had she thought of herself as a child? Was it Black Skys words haunting her? Was it simply her weakness? Ling Qi took a shuddering breath and lowered her eyes from the statue's face. Clapping her hands twice, she bowed her head.

"I think I like her," Hanyi said. Beside her the young spirit looked up, her expression one of admiration. There was no sign that she had felt any of what Ling Qi had. "I wanna be a Lady like that."

"You'll get there," Ling Qi said absently, touseling her hair. She couldn't even disagree. It would be nice, to be so self assured and powerful, would it not?

"It's not all about power you know," Sixiang murmured. "And oh boy does this feel weird. Is this what being disapproved of feels like? I'm not actually totally feckless you know?"

"You're not, most of the time," Ling Qi said quietly, drawing a curious look from her other spirits. Despite Sixiang's words, it did come down to power though. Without it, you couldn't accomplish anything.

Examining the lower portion of the statue, the dais it stood upon, Ling Qi wondered what appropriate offerings for these foreign gods was. She saw no place for incense, but… ah there was a well hidden grate, libations then?

As she was pondering this she heard the faint brush of cloth against the floor at the entrance of the chamber and turned her head. There she saw a young woman in a plain brown robe, belted at the waist and marked by repeating stitched patterns. Her head and the upper half of her face was covered by black headwrap. In one hand she held a stone bucket filled with water, and in the other a somewhat ragged piece of cloth.

They were clearly the tools of a cleaner. Which was why Ling Qi was so baffled that the girl felt like a third realm, if a new one, to her senses. It was more startling that she hadn't noticed her sooner. The most alarming thing though, was that the girl had no heartbeat. Ling Qi could feel her breathing, but there was no pulse in her chest nor warmth in her veins. Yet, Ling Qi was quite certain that she was human and not a spirit

Still, the girl herself seemed startled as well, the water in the bucket sloshed as she came to a sudden stop. "Forgiveness for my intrusion, Emiss-" the girl began to say immediately only to stall and fall silent as she turned her blindfolded head, first toward Hanyi and then Zhengui.

"It is fine, I am only a visitor," Ling Qi said, studying her. Her hands were covered by dark blue gloves as well. In fact the only part of the girl visible was the narrow slice of flesh around her pale blue lips as well as her neck. "I am sorry if my presence is inappropriate."

"The lesser shrine is open to all. I am merely here to clean, Emissary," the girl demurred, holding the rag up to her chest. The liquid in the bucket sloshed with the motion and Ling Qi realized that it must be some kind of oil, both from the scent and the fact that it wasn't frozen. "I will wait if you require more time for communion."

"No, it's fine," Ling Qi said with a faint frown. Hanyi was ignoring the girl, staring up at the statue. Gui was eyeing the girl warily at her side, though Zhen's gaze remained fixed on the crone. She turned back to the statue. "Why is no one here? The other shrine was much more lively."

She heard the shuffle of the girl's cloth slippers on the frosted ground as she entered the shrine behind Ling Qi, moving toward the central statue of the older woman. Still no heartbeat, even as she strained to hear it. "This is a small and peaceful outpost, the warriors do not need to offer blood to Fryja, nor silver to the Crone often outside of their holy days, and Lady Jaromila and the Voice have their own worship place for Sudica."

Ling Qi hummed in response, looking up at the regal figure before her. "This is 'Sudica' then?"

"Yes Emissary," the girl said calmly, kneeling before the middle statue, there was a sound of splashing liquid as the girl began to polish the dais. Ling Qi saw, scrubbing away the faint stains of old blood. She supposedly made the scandalous woman with the axes Fryja by process of elimination.

"I admit, I am very far from home. These names and faces you give to the great-" Ling Qi paused. Calling great spirits gods wasn't in fashion among imperial cultivators, but it seemed to be here. "The gods are unfamiliar to me. "It seems to me that the sun should be matched to the moon, but that doesn't seem to be the case?"

There was a moment of quiet as the girl continued her cleaning work.

"The moon is only part of the night sky and the cold it brings," the girl seemed bemused. "The bright moons are the lantern of Sudica illuminating the night and it's terrors. The crescents are the axes of Fryja, raised against the stars. The Black Moon is the cloak of the Crone, thrown over the world, that good folk know to close their homes and pray, so that her curses touch only the demons of the night."

"Feh, Grandmother's not just a lantern," Sixiang huffed. "...But I guess that's not quite right. I have a feeling I'd be sunnier if I was born down here. Ugh, the shame of it."

Perhaps, Ling Qi thought, considering the statue above her. Or perhaps they just didn't know enough to see the connections yet.

"Hey, how come you're dead," Gui said sharply, startling her a little. He rarely spokeout of turn. At her side he had grown a little bit larger, not taking his eyes off the girl.

"Zhengui," Ling Qi hissed chidingly. She gave him a stern look, and his head sank a little. "I'm sorry, that was a rude insinuation."

The girl just looked puzzled, turning her head towards them from where she knelt on the floor. "It's fine, I think?" her practiced formal speech slipped a little. "...Lady Emissary, what is that spirit at your side?"

"Zhengui is my companion and-" Ling Qi paused it was probably better to avoid confusion. "Little brother, not by blood of course."

Zhen briefly pulled his eyes away from the crone to peer up at her.

The girl if anything looked even more puzzled after her answer. "...I see. Do your lands lie at the northern gates then?"

Ling Qi frowned, growing concerned that she and the girl were talking past each other now. "I do not think so," she said slowly.

"Oh, that makes more sense," the girl said, to herself. "The tales always said the northern gates were a world away. Your spirit feels like the spirits of the earthflames that ring the Polar gates is all."

Gui perked up a little, looking interested. "Gui is new, but very good at making fire come out of earth."

"I, Zhen am better," his other half muttered. "But why does Nameless girl have no heart if she is not dead?"

Ling Qi winced, he wasn't going to let that go. "Zhengui, I'm sure it's just an effect-"

"Oh," the girl said, wringing out her rag. "I offered my heart and eyes to my godmother as my ascension price," she said proudly. "It was a dangerous choice, but I'm certain it was the right one, I will complete my first quest and craft a new heart before my mortal one decays."

Ling Qi's words died in her throat, and she stared at the blindfolded girl. She couldn't actually mean…

"Yyyyyyeah, that's a really big scar," Sixiang said. "I didn't think you meat folk could open yourselves up like that."

For once, Ling Qi didn't even chide Sixiang for peeping. Instead, she just recalled her time in the burning library and the book Hanyi had brought, about the mountainfolk, and their self mutilating cultivation practices. She had thought it was just imperial exaggeration.

Apparently not.

"Oh wow, you can just make yourself a new one? That's so cool," Hanyi piped up, finally drawn into the conversation.

The girl beamed, looking pleased at the praise. Ling Qi turned around, looking back to the statue of Sudica. Clearing her throat she spoke. "If I may ask, I am unfamiliar with the names that your people give to the Great- the gods. Could you tell me more of Sudica. She seems like the patron of Emissaries."

"She was the first," the girl replied humbly. "When the Daniar and the other New tribes arrived through the gates, Sudica and her sisters were those who wisely saw that allowing old and new tribes to war would only bring victory to the Outer night. She gathered the first great althing, and laid down the first laws of the confederation. In her apotheosis, she became the face of early winter, who prepares us for the Night."

So an ascended cultivator. Something kind of like the Sage Emperor for them then. "Is that what the Emissaries do then? They keep everyone connected?"

Nodding, the blindfolded girl set down her rag. "Yes, to be an Emissary is to be one who speaks to both the gods and kings, and ensures that the conflict between wanderers and landsfolk does not rise to the level of kinstrife. To have been given as an Initiate to the cult of the Threefold Winter is a great honor."

Well, they said that these three were not just the moon, but it certainly sounded similar enough. Three aspects instead of eight. This Sudica seemed to blend the reflective and guiding moons a bit. "Thank you for your time," Ling Qi said, bowing her head. It was a small thing, but Ling Qi felt more certain of how to act now. She was glad that she had approached the way she had thus far. "Ah, I'm sorry, but your name…"

"I have not earned my true name but right now, I am Initiate Sveta Emissary," the girl replied.

"And I am Emissary Ling Qi," she returned. "I will let you get on with your tasks and stop distracting you then."

"It is no trouble, I can clean and speak," Sveta replied cheerfully. Really her attitude was disconcertingly at odds with her appearance. "If time allows, might I be allowed to ask what faces of the Goddess you follow, Emissary?"

"I suppose," Ling Qi replied. It would only be polite.


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By the time she left the shrine, a fair amount of time had passed. Sveta had been a little baffled by her explanations. She saw the Crone in the Hidden Moon, but Ling Qi's other patrons seemed not to match up well.

They were very manly apparently. Sixiang hadn't stopped snickering for awhile after that. Still as they left, Ling Qi's gaze turned back to her little brother. He had been quiet during it all. "What were you seeing Zhengui?" she asked gently as they left the shrine and Sveta behind.

"Destruction," hissed the serpent, bereft of his usual aplomb. "Zhen sees Winter, it is as hungry as fire."

"Well duh, I could have told you that," Hanyi said. She walked with her hands behind her head, wholly relaxed. She had liked the shrine.

"Hanyi eats alot, but not that much," Gui said.

She shot him a dark look, which seemed not to affect the shrunken tortoise.

Ling Qi's attention remained on Zhen.

"I, Zhen, think I have learned something. I am looking forward to working with Big Sister more," he said, still seeming lost in thought.

"Me too," Ling Qi said quietly. It really was past time for her to stop waffling on some things. She had no right to the pride the statue at thrust into her head, but it was true that she had let herself lack clarity for too long on some matters.

A heavy footfall reached her ears from up the hall. Ling Qi looked up curiously, and felt the approach of Gan Guangli. He rounded the corner shortly thereafter. He looked both thoughtful and a little harassed.

"Ah, Miss Ling, there you are!" he said, waving to her from down the hall.

"Gan Guangli?" Ling Qi asked, nonplussed. "Is there something wrong?"

"No, no," he dismissed with a nervous chuckle as they met in the hall. "Sir Osrik was just insistent that I find you if I was leaving."

Ling Qi raised an eyebrow.

Gan Guangli's shoulders sagged, and when he spoke it was at a much lower volume than his usual boom. "Is this what it is like to be an unmarried young lady? Treated as if you cannot possibly fend for yourself?"

"I wouldn't know," Ling Qi said wryly. "I've hardly been a lady long."

Gan Guangli sighed, running a hand distractedly through his hair. "I suppose. Still as kind and knowledgeable as Sir Osrik was, I found the need to go somewhere less stifling. Where did you plan to go next?"

Ling Qi hummed to herself. They should start gathering back up soon to discuss their findings. Who should she look for next?

[] To the dining hall, to find Meng Dan
[] Toward the barracks to find Xia Lin
[] Toward the stairs, where she could feel Cai Renxiang
 
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[X] To the dining hall, to find Meng Dan
 
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While I'd love to go see Xia Lin and get a scene with the two jocks together, I also want to see Renren alone with just her two main retainers.
 
A very interesting update. Looks like Zhengui got some insights in how to match his nature of destruction and renewal to Ling's more wintery nature. Very excited to see how that unfolds.
 
"Oh," the girl said, wringing out her rag. "I offered my heart and eyes to my godmother as my ascension price," she said proudly. "It was a dangerous choice, but I'm certain it was the right one, I will complete my first quest and craft a new heart before my mortal one decays."

Ling Qi's words died in her throat, and she stared at the blindfolded girl. She couldn't actually mean…

"Yyyyyyeah, that's a really big scar," Sixiang said. "I didn't think you meat folk could open yourselves up like that."

For once, Ling Qi didn't even chide Sixiang for peeping. Instead, she just recalled her time in the burning library and the book Hanyi had brought, about the mountainfolk, and their self mutilating cultivation practices. She had thought it was just imperial exaggeration.
Ah, here's the Ice Lady cultivation. Self-mutilation being part of the practice
 
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