Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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The point isnt danger (setting aside that a G8 had us isolated in the middle of a combat zone while fresh right this second), the point is success

And trying to get greedy without a firm understanding of things is a spectacular way to have your efforts blow up in your face

Then why were you fearmongering about being eaten. After the fight, we have the power given she doesn't have a large retinue and we do. And the issue with you option is that we actually cannot easily prmise to talk to them afterwards if they don't help us. It will be a decision made by the sect elders, and they might just prefer to capture her for more info than a shor conversation gets. Its harder to do that to someone who actively helped your forces though.
 
[X] Tell her to leave for it isn't safe for her here, you can talk later.
[X] Tell her to leave if she doesn't want to face the empire.

Roughly equivalent, as far as I can see.
 
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[X] Tell her to leave for it isn't safe for her here, you can talk later.

I don't want her "help"!

EDIT: Approval vote

[X] I am the Student of [Winter's Muse][Songstress of Endings], Feel free to join the performance how you see fit
 
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[X] Tell her to leave for it isn't safe for her here, you can talk later.
[X] Tell her to leave if she doesn't want to face the empire.
 
[X] Tell her to leave for it isn't safe for her here, you can talk later.

[X] I am the Student of [Winter's Muse][Songstress of Endings], Feel free to join the performance how you see fit
 
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BTW, hope no one missed this line right at the end.

And there was a charge in the air, something dangerous in the storm above, something that made her instincts scream danger despite the feeling of their reinforcements coming over the rim, and the slightly more distant rise of Diao Gen's qi in the south.

Things are about to go to shit in a srs way. Remember all those worries about this being a trap? That's the feel of jaws closing.
 
Then why were you fearmongering about being eaten. After the fight, we have the power given she doesn't have a large retinue and we do. And the issue with you option is that we actually cannot easily prmise to talk to them afterwards if they don't help us. It will be a decision made by the sect elders, and they might just prefer to capture her for more info than a shor conversation gets. Its harder to do that to someone who actively helped your forces though.
...I used the being eaten as an example of how badly Ling Qi can misread ice people

Especially heavily domesticated types like Zeqing who've had centuries to adapt and acclimate to Imperial culture and get bound by her agreements to the Sect

Assuming you have a read on her to think that asking for help we dont need without strings attached is awful because you genuinely have no idea what you're doing

We need her out of the blast zone, not potentially sticking us in a Fae-like bargain
 
[X] Tell her to leave for it isn't safe for her here, you can talk later.
this is a vote for Floom's write in.

I don't understand this arc (from thread's perspective) at all. We went from people fearmongering the hell out of the Assault vs Perimeter vote, to "hey we're going to win basically guaranteed and the Peak Green will be at our mercy haha"

. . .

I'm actually too baffled to come up with a more coherent response.

salt is getting the better of me. I'm out. see ya at the next update y'all
 
...I used the being eaten as an example of how badly Ling Qi can misread ice people

Especially heavily domesticated types like Zeqing who've had centuries to adapt and acclimate to Imperial culture and get bound by her agreements to the Sect

Assuming you have a read on her to think that asking for help we dont need without strings attached is awful because you genuinely have no idea what you're doing

We need her out of the blast zone, not potentially sticking us in a Fae-like bargain
I'm pretty sure she's not really much like Zeqing at all, because fundamentally she's a human while Zeqing was a spirit. I don't think she's going to eat us, that's a silly example and fails to make your point. I also don't think she has much reason to lock us into a fae-like bargain. A shitty bargain maybe but I frankly don't mind that much if that happens.

This entire fight has been kind of shit from start to finish in terms of the Argent Sect fucking up their Strategic Goals, so I'm more interested in at least mitigating the harm it does to itself.

[X] Tell her to help if she's so interested in you, you can talk later.
 
Tell her to help if she's so interested in you, you can talk later.

dude this sounds supper arrogant , the hell.... how are you gonna ask an enemy combatant in the middle of a warzone for HELP of any kind " if shes so interested in you" why should she risk helping us when clearly even if the sky faction is not part of the alliance they are still helping the other barbs in this fight. her husband healed some of the other barbs already and is currently fighting .

i dont think she has bad designs for us or anything ...a current hypothesis of mine is shes more interested in hanyi than us for several reasons. But even so, it comes off as super rude and naive to think curiosity means alliance/ deserved help.
 
Why are we pushing away help when she could lessen our own casualties right when the murderfest begins with an unknown player?
 
Tell her to help if she's so interested in you, you can talk later.

dude this sounds supper arrogant , the hell.... how are you gonna ask an enemy combatant in the middle of a warzone for HELP of any kind " if shes so interested in you" why should she risk helping us when clearly even if the sky faction is not part of the alliance they are still helping the other barbs in this fight. her husband healed some of the other barbs already and is currently fighting .

i dont think she has bad designs for us or anything ...a current hypothesis of mine is shes more interested in hanyi than us for several reasons. But even so, it comes off as super rude and naive to think curiosity means alliance/ deserved help.
She's the one that brought help up in the first place:
There was something about lineage. And uh? Something about aid, maybe??
And it's a default option, yrs isn't gonna screw with us for "arrogance" in an option he wrote.
 
I'm pretty sure she's not really much like Zeqing at all, because fundamentally she's a human while Zeqing was a spirit. I don't think she's going to eat us, that's a silly example and fails to make your point. I also don't think she has much reason to lock us into a fae-like bargain. A shitty bargain maybe but I frankly don't mind that much if that happens.
If you want to deliberately misconstrue the point then you're welcome to it, but at least you're acknowledging that you're flying blind


This entire fight has been kind of shit from start to finish in terms of the Argent Sect fucking up their Strategic Goals, so I'm more interested in at least mitigating the harm it does to itself.
And how will her assistance do that?

I doubt she'll be attacking the 12 stars after her companion healed them back up from Guan-Zhis opening strike

She'll hit the Shishigui faction which are already on their last legs between Renxiang and Ling Qi as things stand. Once Ruan Shen arrives he has pretty good odds of wiping them out entirely on his own while backing up Renxiang besides

Let alone the other 25 third realms accompanying him

We straight up dont need her.

Even if you're right about this not having potential to backfire, it's still a waste of time because on the tactical level we've already sent the hostile Cloud Tribe factions into a Death spiral.
 
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Why are we pushing away help when she could lessen our own casualties right when the murderfest begins with an unknown player?

Coz we don't know what the help will cost. Doesn't seem like a simple talk later is sufficient to bribe a g8 to turn on their allies in the middle of a fight.

[X] Tell her to leave for it isn't safe for her here, you can talk later.
 
There was something about lineage. And uh? Something about aid, maybe??
If I had to guess, Elsa was basically asking Ling Qi where she got the arts associated with Endings and winter from, and if she needs help. Maybe getting out of the caldera?

[X] Tell her to leave for it isn't safe for her here, you can talk later.
[X] Tell her to help if she's so interested in you, you can talk later.
 
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